City of Honolulu needs more money... (Read 1135 times)

ren

City of Honolulu needs more money...
« on: January 16, 2025, 06:19:15 PM »
so...
https://www.kitv.com/news/moiliili-residents-plead-with-city-for-relief-from-parking-meters/article_607eb3e0-d480-11ef-9d0f-87bf8035ba49.html

But the meters went up days ago on Isenberg Street.

Isenberg Street residents were surprised to see these parking meters installed overnight and many say they can't afford to pay street parking.

And residents received notice on their cars that HPD will issue warnings until Friday.

After that, enforcement begins.

That means residents like Arenas will have to pay $1.50 an hour or face a $35 fine. On top of that, she'll have to feed the meter every two hours.

"I'm a stay-at-home mom. I can't even afford childcare right now. I am here with her all day every day," Arenas said. "That's an additional bill that I have to pay just so that I can raise my daughter in my own home."
Isenberg Street meters map

Neighbors said it's a huge inconvenience that's adding to the cost of living.

"For whatever reason you can't move your car, then your car is stuck here and those $35 fines are gonna roll in pretty quick," said resident Timothy Smith. "It's definitely gonna hurt a lot of people here who are already trying to make ends meet."

Honolulu City Councilmember Scott Nishimoto said the city is considering alternatives such as a residential parking program.

"It's not going to happen overnight," Nishimoto said. "For the short term, I would hope that they would give people ample time to plan so not just a day's notice and that they get proper notice."

The Department of Transportation Services is working to make a similar program permanent in Kalihi and roll out programs in other neighborhoods.

"We've received the request here from the neighbors in Isenberg and certainly want to look at that as one of the options in the future," said Chris Clark, DTS chief planner. "But at the current time, the single space parking meters are what's installed there and HPD has notified people that are parked there now of their intent to start enforcing."
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: City of Honolulu needs more money...
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2025, 07:28:43 PM »
I thought parking meters were supposed to be for commercial and retail districts so people have to move their cars after meters expire.  Most cities prohibit feeding an expired or expiring meter because that circumvents the purpose -- making sure everyone has a chance to park, do their business, and vacate the spot for the next person. 

Parking is a limited commodity, so limiting how long you can tie one up helps keep the flow going.

Putting meters in residential areas makes no sense. 

If there is a high mixture of businesses sitting among mostly residential buildings, that's poor zoning.  Have a few metered spots for the businesses, and remove them from the residential units.

They should also have times when metered parking is free, so businesses that are closed won't have metered stalls enforced all night long.

Just another money grab.  I'm surprised they aren't increasing property taxes to add a per-car fee. A sort of parking meter on your own property.  Justification: increase public transit ridership.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
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QUIETShooter

Re: City of Honolulu needs more money...
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2025, 08:53:06 PM »
Where do these puke city officials park.......

You know, the ones who voted themselves a raise of 6 figures.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: City of Honolulu needs more money...
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2025, 09:14:19 PM »
They have to fund all those new DEI positions somehow
If you allow government to break the law for an "emergency" they will create "emergencies" to break the law.

astroboy

Re: City of Honolulu needs more money...
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2025, 10:24:50 PM »
I thought parking meters were supposed to be for commercial and retail districts so people have to move their cars after meters expire.  Most cities prohibit feeding an expired or expiring meter because that circumvents the purpose -- making sure everyone has a chance to park, do their business, and vacate the spot for the next person. 

Parking is a limited commodity, so limiting how long you can tie one up helps keep the flow going.

Putting meters in residential areas makes no sense. 

If there is a high mixture of businesses sitting among mostly residential buildings, that's poor zoning.  Have a few metered spots for the businesses, and remove them from the residential units.

They should also have times when metered parking is free, so businesses that are closed won't have metered stalls enforced all night long.

Just another money grab.  I'm surprised they aren't increasing property taxes to add a per-car fee. A sort of parking meter on your own property.  Justification: increase public transit ridership.


Yes it is mo money for government and it forces people into public transit. Many countries make it way too expensive for the average
citizen to own and operate a car. Our government will never admit it but this is the whole idea. Due to the high cost of living here many
have multiple jobs. Using public transportation to get to the next job can be difficult.

The city is in dire need of funds to feed the rail monstrosity. I recently read about how the city and Bishop estate are at odds on the
price of the land mauka of Dillingham, aka the mauka shift. The city claims that just a small portion will be needed to allow for the
relocation of utilities. I have no proof of this but I suspect they want a lot more land acquired thru imminent domain. I think they want
the whole enchalada. The area in question is from Bob's Barbecue to the Kapalama canal. I fear more land will be taken and given to
their developer friends. .   

QUIETShooter

Re: City of Honolulu needs more money...
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2025, 06:24:42 AM »
Garan Ball Barans. :thumbsup:

This is Hawaii.  Land of the corrupt.  and inept.  And full of the mazie hirono mentality.

or is it the mazie hirono mental state.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

rpoL98

Re: City of Honolulu needs more money...
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2025, 02:12:51 PM »
sounds like their city councilmember, whoever it is, was asleep at the wheel, and not representing.  needs to be named and shamed.