CA preventing residents from rebuilding (Read 9315 times)

ren

CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« on: January 27, 2025, 10:38:05 PM »
sound familiar? look familiar?
https://recovery.lacounty.gov/returning-after-fire-faq/

When can I return to my property?

It will be several days or longer before residents in heavily impacted communities can begin returning to their properties. Inspections, search operations, and assessments are being conducted as quickly as possible to expedite residents’ safe return to their properties.
I just want to see my property or retrieve something special. I just need 15 minutes.

Unfortunately, too many dangers remain to allow you to return to your property safely. Downed power lines must be cleared to avoid the potential for electrocution when lines are reenergized. Hazardous materials from burned homes must be assessed and removed as overseen by the EPA to avoid health risks to you and your family. The Fire Department must make sure that all small spot fires have been extinguished. Sadly, in some cases, we are still searching for remains. All of this work must be done before we can safely allow you to return to your property. Resources are being poured into the field from federal, state and local partners to help complete this as soon as we possibly can. We know how important it is for you to begin the recovery process.


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Flapp_Jackson

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2025, 11:59:59 PM »
in college, my apartment was in a complex that was destroyed by a gas explosion.

Luckily my building was still standing, but enough of the force hit it to break all the windows, knock everything on shelves into the middle of the rooms, shattered overhead light fixtures, and even split the doorframe to my bedroom door when the door was blown open -- all while i slept under the window facing the explosion.

That was just before 7am IIRC.  I was able to grab enough clothes for the night and my toiletries.  We were unable to go back into the complex for 3 days to give the engineers time to decide which buildings were safe enough to enter.  The building next to mine where the laundry room was located was rubble.  Several apartments had second story floors collapse down to the first floor.  Walls had cracks, glass was everywhere, and there was no electricity.  All the food in the fridge  i'd bought 2 days earlier was wasted.  I still don't know how I walked through the entire apartment barefoot to check for my roommates without getting a single cut.  My bed was filled with the broken window glass.

All this to say, it's not always a simple case of "running in to grab a few items," when so many things could represent a danger.  Until you know, you really don't know.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2025, 04:59:44 AM »
Mormon church tells their people to have a suitcase/bug-out bag packed with supplies to last 3 days.
When I was growing up, we had one.
When I started having a family I had one.
I kind of forgot about it in more recent years.
This was a good reminder to check yours or make one.
What, Me Worry?

Rocky

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2025, 08:00:30 AM »
Common sense tells people to have a suitcase/bug-out bag packed with supplies to last 3 days.''
''This is a good reminder to check yours or make one.''

   Greatest disaster most likely to occur is house fire.
   Would be nice to have a "Go Bag" with some clothes, cash, car keys, meds and toiletries as well as a flash drive of all important docs and pics to be thrown out the window before you when wake up and the house is on fire. :thumbsup:
How to decide to pack such a parcel is stand in the middle of your living room butt naked and say to yourself "I'm leaving in 60 seconds and never coming back".
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

oldfart

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2025, 09:26:23 AM »
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How to decide to pack such a parcel is stand in the middle of your living room butt naked and say to yourself "I'm leaving in 60 seconds and never coming back".
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I'd pay a dollar to see that
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eyeeatingfish

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2025, 01:10:00 PM »
It is unfortunate but there are good reasons why areas are not opened up as soon as the fire passes

eyeeatingfish

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2025, 01:13:01 PM »
Mormon church tells their people to have a suitcase/bug-out bag packed with supplies to last 3 days.
When I was growing up, we had one.
When I started having a family I had one.
I kind of forgot about it in more recent years.
This was a good reminder to check yours or make one.

I have a small bag in the safe just for that but it is mostly cash, documents, and a pistol, and the hard drive backup if I remember to grab it. Would be smart to get a bag with some clothes too. 

changemyoil66

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2025, 01:19:01 PM »
I have a small bag in the safe just for that but it is mostly cash, documents, and a pistol, and the hard drive backup if I remember to grab it. Would be smart to get a bag with some clothes too.

Places to keep law applies to most people.

ren

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2025, 05:12:05 PM »
It is unfortunate but there are good reasons why areas are not opened up as soon as the fire passes

too hot?! pass out some barrel heat wraps!
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eyeeatingfish

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2025, 10:20:04 AM »
Places to keep law applies to most people.

Officer I am transporting this firearm to my new place of sojourn.

changemyoil66

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2025, 10:39:03 AM »
Officer I am transporting this firearm to my new place of sojourn.

When your home is on fire, you won't immediately go to a new place of sojourn.  You will be stopped and talking to first responders or others.  Or if we use the above example or Maui, you're immediate goal is to escape the fire in any direction that you can.

So no, you are not transporting this firearm to your new place of sojourn yet.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2025, 11:42:15 AM »
Officer I am transporting this firearm to my new place of sojourn.
So, your first inclination when caught breaking the law is to lie to the Cops?

Wow.  Just, Wow!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2025, 10:26:09 AM »
When your home is on fire, you won't immediately go to a new place of sojourn.  You will be stopped and talking to first responders or others.  Or if we use the above example or Maui, you're immediate goal is to escape the fire in any direction that you can.

So no, you are not transporting this firearm to your new place of sojourn yet.

An officer stopping me doesn't mean I am not on my way to my place of sojourn. If my town burned down I would head to a family members house on the other side of the island no matter whether I take the most direct route or not.

eyeeatingfish

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2025, 10:26:47 AM »
So, your first inclination when caught breaking the law is to lie to the Cops?

Wow.  Just, Wow!

It is not a lie, stop trying to start crap.

changemyoil66

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2025, 11:27:49 AM »
An officer stopping me doesn't mean I am not on my way to my place of sojourn. If my town burned down I would head to a family members house on the other side of the island no matter whether I take the most direct route or not.
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Thanks for ignoring the other part of my post to make it seam that you aren't breaking the law.

ren

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2025, 11:54:47 AM »
makes sense. For some people the range is too far but their relatives place is closer
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changemyoil66

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2025, 01:45:04 PM »
makes sense. For some people the range is too far but their relatives place is closer

I guess some people have blanket approval to soujourn at a relatives home without having to stop and ask for permission.  Which would be violating places to keep while they're on the phone asking permission.

eyeeatingfish

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2025, 11:55:06 AM »
I guess some people have blanket approval to soujourn at a relatives home without having to stop and ask for permission.  Which would be violating places to keep while they're on the phone asking permission.

Or a hotel... you aren't very imaginative are you? Just admit your stupid gotcha was stupid.

changemyoil66

Re: CA preventing residents from rebuilding
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2025, 12:08:07 PM »
Or a hotel... you aren't very imaginative are you? Just admit your stupid gotcha was stupid.



So as soon as your home is on fire and you grab your bag that has important stuff on it, you will immediately go to a hotel? Not stop to talk to any HFD or wait for them to arrive?  Not do a head count outside to make sure all your household members don't require medical treatment, see if anyone else needs help, etc....But grab your bag and head straight to the hotel/relatives home.

Just admit, you're trying to move goal post now, instead of admitting you plan to break the law.