Goes to senate PSM who will likely pass it, then JDC which might change it to 20 round maximum.

Odds are high something will pass.  The AG has been absent from the hearings, possible they don't want more litigation for things like this at this time

HPD as well.

Goes to senate PSM who will likely pass it, then JDC which might change it to 20 round maximum.

Odds are high something will pass.  The AG has been absent from the hearings, possible they don't want more litigation for things like this at this time

Provided it passes and retains a grandfather clause, how long do I have to go on my shopping spree?

Provided it passes and retains a grandfather clause, how long do I have to go on my shopping spree?

I'm guessing May-ish, unless "they" decide to fast-track it to the guvnors office.

you could check the "Legislative Calendar" for all the relevant milestone dates.

Provided it passes and retains a grandfather clause, how long do I have to go on my shopping spree?

No grandfathering.

No grandfathering.

Doesn't the current version of the bill have a grandfather clause?

Doesn't the current version of the bill have a grandfather clause?

In a way it does.  Just gotta convert em to 10 round magazines.

In a way it does.  Just gotta convert em to 10 round magazines.

Magazines would need to have capacities reduced, but any 50 cals and "assault weapons" currently registered would remain legal as long as they didn't leave and re-enter the state. According to the most-recent language, which is a copy of the way that "assault pistols" were banned-but-grandfathered in 1992.

Right? That was my understanding of the current bill.

So if passed as written, any AR lowers registered pre-passage wouldn't need a fin grip, but any registered after passage would.

Magazines would need to have capacities reduced, but any 50 cals and "assault weapons" currently registered would remain legal as long as they didn't leave and re-enter the state. According to the most-recent language, which is a copy of the way that "assault pistols" were banned-but-grandfathered in 1992.

Right? That was my understanding of the current bill.

So if passed as written, any AR lowers registered pre-passage wouldn't need a fin grip, but any registered after passage would.

My bad, I was just referring to magazines needing capacity reductions.  firearms are grandfathered.

Doesn't the current version of the bill have a grandfather clause?

No grandfather for mags. Get grandfather for guns. 

No compensation to pay you back for all the mags you have either. HIFICO director stated in zoom test that he has 300 mags.

This is the kind of shit that could inspire some sarcastic asshole buy some 100 count pmag bulk boxes and hand them out to anybody that wants one up until the day it goes into effect. Hell maybe even gift them to every legislator, so they can be felons with the rest of their constituents... ya know theoretically. 

This is the kind of shit that could inspire some sarcastic asshole buy some 100 count pmag bulk boxes and hand them out to anybody that wants one up until the day it goes into effect. Hell maybe even gift them to every legislator, so they can be felons with the rest of their constituents... ya know theoretically.

It's the kind of thing that makes people not want to call the cops and handle business on their own.

Wait, so with the law's reference to July 24, 2024 ... If I purchase an "assault rifle" now, then if the law passes, then will i be in violation?

Hmm, I've been meaning to purchase an AR for years.  Should I finally "pull the trigger" and buy one now, before this law goes into effect?

Wait, so with the law's reference to July 24, 2024 ... If I purchase an "assault rifle" now, then if the law passes, then will i be in violation?

Hmm, I've been meaning to purchase an AR for years.  Should I finally "pull the trigger" and buy one now, before this law goes into effect?

The dates will most likely be changed to be current. But in general, buy what you want NOW in case this passes.

I'm used to seeing nonsensical [placeholder] dates in these bills. Usually they're more obviously placeholders.

Would it even be fundamentally workable for a law like this to apply retroactively in that way?

I assume that it could be, but would also give yet another angle of legal attack on a law that is already on increasingly perilous Constitutional interpretation. It'd probably be stupid to make it apply retroactively, but they also aren't unfamiliar with stupidity, so...

I'm used to seeing nonsensical [placeholder] dates in these bills. Usually they're more obviously placeholders.

Would it even be fundamentally workable for a law like this to apply retroactively in that way?

I assume that it could be, but would also give yet another angle of legal attack on a law that is already on increasingly perilous Constitutional interpretation. It'd probably be stupid to make it apply retroactively, but they also aren't unfamiliar with stupidity, so...

Most likely, our comrades there got lazy and copy/pasted last years bill.

I'll be ultra pissed if they make it retroactive considering I bought 5 lowers last week, and am planning to buy a rifle and shotgun this week, on top of needing to ship a couple rifles to the mainland for service before the border would get sealed.

I'll be ultra pissed if they make it retroactive considering I bought 5 lowers last week, and am planning to buy a rifle and shotgun this week, on top of needing to ship a couple rifles to the mainland for service before the border would get sealed.

Any grandfather clause can always be deleted later as the years pass. This is why we cannot give an inch.

I'm guessing May-ish, unless "they" decide to fast-track it to the guvnors office.

you could check the "Legislative Calendar" for all the relevant milestone dates.

Where is this Legislative Calendar you speak of?

Where is this Legislative Calendar you speak of?

This looks official:

https://data.capitol.hawaii.gov/docs/sessioncalendar2025.pdf

This looks official:

https://data.capitol.hawaii.gov/docs/sessioncalendar2025.pdf

that's the one I had in mind.