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***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN (Read 8680 times)

changemyoil66

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2025, 09:05:12 AM »
Quote from: Begle1 on February 23, 2025, 12:02:30 PM

Where is this Legislative Calendar you speak of?

It's not common for a bill like this to be fast tracked. So it won't be signed until July when all the other bills are signed, or Green may choose to not sign the bill and it still becomes law.  But I'm sure all the anti 2a's will be invited and a signing will take place.  The effective date can change too. It could be upon signing, or 1/1/26.

Again, no grandfather for rifle mags. So you have to destroy them, disassemble, turn into HPD, or ship out of state by the effective date.
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ren

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2025, 07:02:00 PM »
Though this doesn't specifically target ARs, this is the foundation for a future ban.
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changemyoil66

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2025, 07:52:25 AM »
Quote from: ren on March 02, 2025, 07:02:00 PM
Though this doesn't specifically target ARs, this is the foundation for a future ban.

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This bans AR's and all semi-auto rifles. And this bill has no grandfather clause for mags.
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QUIETShooter

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2025, 12:54:58 PM »
AR's and semi's on their hit list.

You think it will stop there?

Lever actions, bolt actions with 5 and 10 rnd mags will be next.

Think Canada.

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changemyoil66

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2025, 01:04:24 PM »
Quote from: QUIETShooter on March 03, 2025, 12:54:58 PM
AR's and semi's on their hit list.

You think it will stop there?

Lever actions, bolt actions with 5 and 10 rnd mags will be next.

Think Canada.

That's the idea of any gun ban/law. Frog in boiling water reference. 10rd mags are a made up number, so nothing to prevent to say OK to have a 10rd mag, but you can only put 7rds in it. Like how NY did. 
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ren

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2025, 05:20:41 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on March 03, 2025, 07:52:25 AM
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This bans AR's and all semi-auto rifles. And this bill has no grandfather clause for mags.

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ren

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2025, 09:16:10 PM »
The bill reads that it applies to rifles under length of 30"? Does that apply to ARs and other rifles?
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rpoL98

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2025, 12:33:54 AM »
Quote from: ren on March 11, 2025, 09:16:10 PM
The bill reads that it applies to rifles under length of 30"? Does that apply to ARs and other rifles?
seriously?

a 14.5" AR-15, P&W to 16", with a collapsed telescoping stock (B5 SOPMOD), comes out to about 32" OAL.

I guess anything side-folder, or under-folding (jihadi favorite), would be less than 30".
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2025, 01:16:49 AM »
Quote from: ren on March 11, 2025, 09:16:10 PM
The bill reads that it applies to rifles under length of 30"? Does that apply to ARs and other rifles?

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However, a typical AR-15 with a 16-inch barrel
and a collapsible stock fully extended
will measure approximately 35-37 inches.

With the stock collapsed, the same rifle might
measure around 32 inches.
https://thegunzone.com/what-is-the-overall-length-of-an-ar-15/

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Begle1

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2025, 02:46:59 AM »
Pretty much all the 30" OAL ban hits are bullpups. Most people don't care about bullpups.

I've looked and to my knowledge no bullpup has ever been used in a mass shooting. A combination of being comparatively rare and expensive.

I own several bullpups. My AUG and RFB are 28-26" long. Ironically the 30" restriction doesn't apply to shotguns though. My TS12 is California-Legal, while it wouldn't be if it were a rifle.

But I think some people here are reading the bill wrong. An OAL under 30" is just one of several features that would cause a rifle to be banned. This would ban most semiauto rifles.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2025, 03:08:34 AM by Begle1 »
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rpoL98

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2025, 03:11:52 AM »
my wishlist includes a Tavor X95 ...
« Last Edit: March 12, 2025, 03:31:51 AM by rpoL98 »
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zippz

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2025, 02:25:43 PM »
Quote from: ren on March 11, 2025, 09:16:10 PM
The bill reads that it applies to rifles under length of 30"? Does that apply to ARs and other rifles?

Those are separate requirements.  So that would ban any semi auto rifle under 30 inches regardless if it had a detachable magazines or fixed, or any of the awb features.

It would be something strange like a bulpup rifle with a fixed 10 round magazine.  I'm not aware of any rifle that would fall under this that doesn't fall under the other 2 that isn't already illegal in Hawaii.

Or it could be a copy and paste bill from another state that doesn't ban assault pistols.

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Begle1

Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB 893 DUE BEFORE 2/5/25 AT 2PM. "ASSAULT RIFLE" BAN, MAG BAN
« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2025, 06:32:45 PM »
Any bullpup that takes AR mags could have one of the fixed magazine conversions installed, right?

KelTec RDB, M17S, Tavor, VHS2/ Hellion...
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