you didn't read my post above?
focus...

That doesn't address what I pointed out though. The 2018 medical mistake doesn't mean RFK's crazy ideas had no influence on the people of Samoa. I mean if RFK went and talked to a room of 5 anti-vaxers then I guess you could make the case his influence was likely negligible but if not I wouldn't dismiss his involvement outright.

you didn't read my post above?
focus...

He read it, but the facts don't support his made up feelings stated.  So now he will switch tactics like usual.

That doesn't address what I pointed out though. The 2018 medical mistake doesn't mean RFK's crazy ideas had no influence on the people of Samoa. I mean if RFK went and talked to a room of 5 anti-vaxers then I guess you could make the case his influence was likely negligible but if not I wouldn't dismiss his involvement outright.

RFK Jr himself has said many times, including in front of Congress, that he is NOT -- repeat: NOT -- in any way what could be called an "anti-vaxer."

What he was concerned with was that the government does not put enough emphasis on testing, quality control and supervision when people are receiving mass vaccinations.

The only way you can argue he caused any kind of outbreak is if you lied, want to use him as a scapegoat, or have no idea how to recognize fact versus fiction.

Get your facts straight.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc - this seems to be your only basis for blaming RFK for what happened in Samoa.  It's a fallacious argument.

he also wants manufacturer protections removed from vaccines...

RFK Jr himself has said many times, including in front of Congress, that he is NOT -- repeat: NOT -- in any way what could be called an "anti-vaxer."

What he was concerned with was that the government does not put enough emphasis on testing, quality control and supervision when people are receiving mass vaccinations.

The only way you can argue he caused any kind of outbreak is if you lied, want to use him as a scapegoat, or have no idea how to recognize fact versus fiction.

Get your facts straight.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc - this seems to be your only basis for blaming RFK for what happened in Samoa.  It's a fallacious argument.

That doesn't address what I pointed out though. The 2018 medical mistake doesn't mean RFK's crazy ideas had no influence on the people of Samoa. I mean if RFK went and talked to a room of 5 anti-vaxers then I guess you could make the case his influence was likely negligible but if not I wouldn't dismiss his involvement outright.

How do you measure the influence of RFK Jr.?

How do you measure the influence of RFK Jr.?

You could do a survey of Samoans and see how many people changed their opinion on vaccines due to RFK Jr.'s comments.

you didn't read my post above?
focus...

I did read it, it doesn't prove RFK Jr. had no effect.

RFK Jr himself has said many times, including in front of Congress, that he is NOT -- repeat: NOT -- in any way what could be called an "anti-vaxer."

What he was concerned with was that the government does not put enough emphasis on testing, quality control and supervision when people are receiving mass vaccinations.

The only way you can argue he caused any kind of outbreak is if you lied, want to use him as a scapegoat, or have no idea how to recognize fact versus fiction.

Get your facts straight.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc - this seems to be your only basis for blaming RFK for what happened in Samoa.  It's a fallacious argument.

So you believe RFK Jr. was just lying before in all his comments against vaccinations for years? Or perhaps he saw the light recently and changed his beliefs about vaccines?

Show me where I blamed RFK for what happened in Samoa because you either need to work on your reading comprehension or quite using strawman arguments.

I did read it, it doesn't prove RFK Jr. had no effect.

Then you didn't understand what it was saying. Maybe use multiple dictionary's as the definitions of words can vary from book to book.

So you believe RFK Jr. was just lying before in all his comments against vaccinations for years? Or perhaps he saw the light recently and changed his beliefs about vaccines?

Show me where I blamed RFK for what happened in Samoa because you either need to work on your reading comprehension or quite using strawman arguments.

Show me where he claimed you blamed him for Samoan.

Are we moving goal post or shape shifting?

You could do a survey of Samoans and see how many people changed their opinion on vaccines due to RFK Jr.'s comments.

This is so feasible right?  Why don't you start this process if you think he has influence or not since it's your idea.

So you believe RFK Jr. was just lying before in all his comments against vaccinations for years? Or perhaps he saw the light recently and changed his beliefs about vaccines?

Show me where I blamed RFK for what happened in Samoa because you either need to work on your reading comprehension or quite using strawman arguments.

Show me where RFK said he's against vaccinations.

As for you blaming him for Samoa, maybe you should be checked for early onset Alzheimer's:

How is this a debunked lie?

Kennedy went to Samoa and campaigned against the vaccine in June 2019, 3 months before the measles outbreak there. We can certainly question what percentage of people changed their mind based on Kennedy's advice but to say it is a lie that he had anything to do with it seems to jump the gun.

Show me where he claimed you blamed him for Samoan.

Are we moving goal post or shape shifting?

Reply #27. read it till you find it. I would post a link to make it easy but you don't click links of things that prove you wrong so...

This is so feasible right?  Why don't you start this process if you think he has influence or not since it's your idea.

Show me where I said it was feasible.

He asked how it could be studied, I gave him an example of how one could study this question if they wanted to.

Your reading comprehension is worse than usual today.

Show me where I said it was feasible.

He asked how it could be studied, I gave him an example of how one could study this question if they wanted to.

Your reading comprehension is worse than usual today.

Show me where I said you said it's feasible.  More imagining things just to create an argument by yourself. The answer should have been, "no, it's not feasible as it happened many years ago and to locate all those people would be difficult".  Then you would realize that your example to a study is dumb.  But that is the entire reason why you instead made up where you think it's feasible.

Your imagination is once again off.

Reply #27. read it till you find it. I would post a link to make it easy but you don't click links of things that prove you wrong so...

So you won't copy and paste the quote?  I'll take that then as it didn't happen. unless you post it.

Show me where RFK said he's against vaccinations.

As for you blaming him for Samoa, maybe you should be checked for early onset Alzheimer's:

Reading comprehension is hard. I pointed out that it is jumping to gun to dismiss that he had an influence, I didn't say he did have an influence. Surely you understand the difference between something being disproven vs something that hasn't been proven right? In other words just because we can't say how much of an effect his words had to Samoans doesn't mean you can then conclude his words had no effect.

RFK chaired the Children's Health Defense group for almost a decade which sells clothing for people to proclaim that they are not vaccinated. He has railed against vaccines for years with BS arguments about vaccine.

Here is video of one recent comment.
In one interview RFK Jr. said "There is no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective"


RFK has tried to soften his position by saying he just wants more studies etc. So either he has changed his mind (which is completely fine) or he is lying somewhere and putting on a different face so he could get confirmed.

But maybe I am wrong, feel free to show me where he has made pro-vaccine statements.

So you won't copy and paste the quote?  I'll take that then as it didn't happen. unless you post it.

I am not going to enable your laziness.

Show me where I said you said it's feasible.  More imagining things just to create an argument by yourself. The answer should have been, "no, it's not feasible as it happened many years ago and to locate all those people would be difficult".  Then you would realize that your example to a study is dumb.  But that is the entire reason why you instead made up where you think it's feasible.

Your imagination is once again off.

Do you have amnesia or something? You asked if it was feasible.

And the answer is yes, it is possible to do a study of that kind of thing. Send surveys out to a sufficient certain percentage of the Samoan population asking their attitudes on vaccines, RFK, etc. and see if there is any data that they changed their mind based on his comments.

Next time if you want to seriously know if it is feasible then simply ask instead of a stupid reply suggesting I go about funding such a study as if that somehow disproved what I said

Reading comprehension is hard. I pointed out that it is jumping to gun to dismiss that he had an influence, I didn't say he did have an influence. Surely you understand the difference between something being disproven vs something that hasn't been proven right? In other words just because we can't say how much of an effect his words had to Samoans doesn't mean you can then conclude his words had no effect.

RFK chaired the Children's Health Defense group for almost a decade which sells clothing for people to proclaim that they are not vaccinated. He has railed against vaccines for years with BS arguments about vaccine.


RFK has tried to soften his position by saying he just wants more studies etc. So either he has changed his mind (which is completely fine) or he is lying somewhere and putting on a different face so he could get confirmed.

But maybe I am wrong, feel free to show me where he has made pro-vaccine statements.

Apparently you like to hedge your comments by using indirect language to IMPLY what you mean just so you can deny holding an opinion when proven how stupid it is.

Yes, you CAN "dismiss that he had an influence."  it was the dead kids from poorly controlled vaccines that had an influence.  All RFK did was advocate for better management and quality control of anything the government intends to inject into people's bodies -- man, woman and child -- before more kids die from it.

Just stop.  You love to post contrarian comments to stir the pot then pretend you never said what you alluded to.

Troll behavior.