DOGE Thread (Read 23412 times)

astroboy

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2025, 10:29:19 AM »
How did Pocahontas get so much money?
The judge blocking the Trump Admin has a conflict of interest issue.
His wife serves on the board of an NGO that gets USAID money.
She is listed as the founder and president of the NGO.
The left will say that there's nothing to see here folks and no need for you to look brah.


 
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eyeeatingfish

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2025, 10:32:28 AM »
please show "good legitimate charitable expenditures that are being cut or paused which is or will result in the suffering of people in need"
i have yet to see anyone list even one, all the left has been doing is yelling "constitutional crisis"!!! and "show us proof"!!!

Multiple food programs are at risk after things were put on hold. I would call that legitimate charitable expenditures.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/10/usaid-trump-elon-musk-cuts

changemyoil66

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2025, 10:38:11 AM »
Multiple food programs are at risk after things were put on hold. I would call that legitimate charitable expenditures.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/10/usaid-trump-elon-musk-cuts

Unfortunate collateral damage.  If politicians did things the correct way from day 1, then there would be no one getting hurt by budget cutting.

eyeeatingfish

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2025, 10:39:19 AM »
Unfortunate collateral damage.  If politicians did things the correct way from day 1, then there would be no one getting hurt by budget cutting.

I agree but it would still be an example of where I thought Musk was going too far.

changemyoil66

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2025, 10:44:11 AM »
I agree but it would still be an example of where I thought Musk was going too far.

You have no idea how long it would take to audit every single contract out there.

SWOOOSSHHHHH, even though I explained some of it.

macsak

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2025, 10:45:11 AM »
secstate accepts waiver requests if cuts affect health and safety...

Multiple food programs are at risk after things were put on hold. I would call that legitimate charitable expenditures.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/10/usaid-trump-elon-musk-cuts

eyeeatingfish

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2025, 10:53:32 AM »
You have no idea how long it would take to audit every single contract out there.

SWOOOSSHHHHH, even though I explained some of it.

Another shave ice with no syrup or toppings huh?

Macsak stated he didn't see any examples. I gave him an example to make my point and here comes the attack chihuahua with a useless point.

eyeeatingfish

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2025, 10:54:54 AM »
secstate accepts waiver requests if cuts affect health and safety...

 hope that good programs like these are allowed to continue.

changemyoil66

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2025, 10:58:20 AM »
Another shave ice with no syrup or toppings huh?

Macsak stated he didn't see any examples. I gave him an example to make my point and here comes the attack chihuahua with a useless point.

Enter name calling tactic. Your flow of tactics is very predictable.

eyeeatingfish

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2025, 11:00:57 AM »
Enter name calling tactic. Your flow of tactics is very predictable.

Hypocrite much?

changemyoil66

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2025, 11:01:34 AM »
Hypocrite much?

Hahahah, more imagination.

"please show me on the doll where CMO called you a name that wasn't true".

changemyoil66

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2025, 08:31:16 AM »
DOGE found that 2 trillion was being sent overseas for medicare/cade to people who shouldn't be receiving it.

changemyoil66

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2025, 08:31:59 AM »
No focus
« Last Edit: February 13, 2025, 09:38:29 AM by changemyoil66 »

macsak

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2025, 09:27:03 AM »
The judge who ordered that funding continue has a wife who's org is receiving said funding.  No conflict of interest here.

umm, that's exactly what astro said
focus...

macsak

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2025, 11:46:05 AM »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2025, 12:15:51 PM »
Multiple food programs are at risk after things were put on hold. I would call that legitimate charitable expenditures.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/10/usaid-trump-elon-musk-cuts

I was unaware the US government has a duty to become a charity organization for other countries.

I recall a story about a representative in the late 1800s visiting his constituents to talk about the things he wants to do to help the country and, of course, win their support in his upcoming reelection.

One wealthy rancher had a chance to speak to his representative alone.  One of the bills the representative recently voted for was for flood recovery assistance for people in Ohio.  The rancher explained:  Nowhere in the Constitution does it say the federal government has the duty, nor the authority, to spend taxes collected from all the states on charitable programs.  Churches, philanthropists and volunteers have been providing charitable services for the unfortunate forever.  By the government stepping in, all those groups and individuals will expect the government to continue that service in every disaster or unfortunate situation where people can't do for themselves.  As such, people will feel less of a need to donate or volunteer since the government is doing the job.

Taking my taxes to perform relief work is not charity -- it is theft.  It's theft of our taxes to do something the Constitution does not empower the government to do.

There are no "legitimate charitable expenditures" when I as an individual tax payer and voter was never asked if I want my taxes to go to that charity.  Now the government is giving my taxes to groups and relief efforts I may not agree with, and in so doing will demand even more taxes to do all the things they should be doing according to the Constitution.

Spare me the emotional arguments that we are our brothers' keepers or that but for the grace of God go I.  It's not the government's role -- a role they not only stole from actual charities, but also discourages charities from continuing to do.  Why pay taxes into a "charitable" government as well as donate to charities?  I'd be paying double for the same charitable work, at least half of which supports a bloated, inefficient staff of paid employees rather than performing with the aid of unpaid volunteers.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2025, 12:43:11 PM »
Much, if not most, of the aid that the US provides other nations never reaches the intended recipients.  It's used to enrich those in charge and the people managing the aid distribution.

I recall Puerto Rico's government leaders lying that the US was not providing them adequate aid.  They gave press conferences and interviews blasting Trump while standing in front of pallets upon pallets of relief supplies -- supplies that spoiled because the government there was not distributing it to the hurricane victims.  It's true roads were not passable in some areas, but that's because the government was not keeping the roads maintained prior to the disaster.  I'm sure helicopters could have helped, but they didn't want help.  They wanted to get Trump out of office.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2025, 12:50:55 PM »
Much, if not most, of the aid that the US provides other nations never reaches the intended recipients.  It's used to enrich those in charge and the people managing the aid distribution.

I recall Puerto Rico's government leaders lying that the US was not providing them adequate aid.  They gave press conferences and interviews blasting Trump while standing in front of pallets upon pallets of relief supplies -- supplies that spoiled because the government there was not distributing it to the hurricane victims.  It's true roads were not passable in some areas, but that's because the government was not keeping the roads maintained prior to the disaster.  I'm sure helicopters could have helped, but they didn't want help.  They wanted to get Trump out of office.

The truckers used the hurricane to negotiate their contract.  All while their mayor had time  to make a shirt that read "nasty" on it.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2025, 01:14:01 PM »
The truckers used the hurricane to negotiate their contract.  All while their mayor had time  to make a shirt that read "nasty" on it.
All that is recent, public evidence that the government should not be in the business of providing charitable aid to other countries.  We have people in NC still waiting for assistance many months later, yet Homeland Security has money to fund lodging and other expenses for illegals.

One way they get around this is saying Biden "appropriated" that money for DHS to house illegals.  i thought Congress did the appropriating, and the President made those appropriations happen?  Either way, it's an attempt to cloud the issue so the accusations against FEMA can be quashed.  Having so many layers of bureaucracies means they can shuffle money into agency after agency until nobody is able to be held accountable.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: DOGE Thread
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2025, 01:42:56 PM »
All that is recent, public evidence that the government should not be in the business of providing charitable aid to other countries.  We have people in NC still waiting for assistance many months later, yet Homeland Security has money to fund lodging and other expenses for illegals.

One way they get around this is saying Biden "appropriated" that money for DHS to house illegals.  i thought Congress did the appropriating, and the President made those appropriations happen?  Either way, it's an attempt to cloud the issue so the accusations against FEMA can be quashed.  Having so many layers of bureaucracies means they can shuffle money into agency after agency until nobody is able to be held accountable.

Elon provided internet to the  area, did the government do that too?