Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat (Read 13784 times)

Kuleana

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #60 on: March 17, 2025, 08:53:15 PM »
Funny how you didn't deny the accusation.
Why should I address something that I never referred myself as being?   ???

Kuleana

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #61 on: March 17, 2025, 08:58:58 PM »
Can you post the specifics of what Russia is disputing in the peace deal?
We should wait to hear from Putin himself after his meeting with Trump tomorrow.

However, there are many non-US and domestic sources that essentially share the same thing.  Below is Judge Napolitano's recent meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov which is one such source.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #62 on: March 17, 2025, 09:19:14 PM »
Why should I address something that I never referred myself as being?   ???
For the same reason you addressed me as  something I never referred to myself as being.

Duh.

And again, you failed to deny the accusation.  So whether or not you "referred to yourself as being," it's normal to respond to someone when they accuse you of being something you aren't.

The lack of denial is deafening.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #63 on: March 17, 2025, 09:30:27 PM »
We should wait to hear from Putin himself after his meeting with Trump tomorrow.

However, there are many non-US and domestic sources that essentially share the same thing.  Below is Judge Napolitano's recent meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov which is one such source.



Did you watch the entire video?  It's an hour and a half long.

Which parts of the video answers our questions?

Also, how is Judge Napolitano considered a non-US source?  I specifically asked for your non-US sources.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2025, 05:28:30 PM »
Why must you feel the need to add "acting tough"? 

Because Trump likes to act tough. I figured that was obvious.


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Your post here really adds nothing to the convo but you looking like a fool.  For every negotiation, each person must act in the way that gives it the best chance for success.  I remember when the fake news made it a big deal about N.Korea and how Trump said "his button is bigger and it works".  Shortly later, KJU is shaking hands and a cease fire with S. Korea happened.  There was even meetings of regular N and S soliders.

I forgot how much you believe in Trump's master negotiator status BS. But maybe you are right, every negotiation the person must act in a way that gives the best chance for success. We will see if Trump's coddling of Putin's balls was what it really took.


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What ever Trump did with Zelkins and JD as well, worked out cause he came back.  IDK why you're now adding in "integrity" to the question as that was never an issue.  We call this goal post moving cause you know that what Trump did worked and won't admit it like usual.

So you don't care about integrity in a president. Gotcha.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #65 on: March 25, 2025, 09:49:19 AM »
Because Trump likes to act tough. I figured that was obvious.


I forgot how much you believe in Trump's master negotiator status BS. But maybe you are right, every negotiation the person must act in a way that gives the best chance for success. We will see if Trump's coddling of Putin's balls was what it really took.


So you don't care about integrity in a president. Gotcha.

U forgot what I posed about "integrity" and then further made yourself look foolish again by using "gotcha".

This is what happens when you move goal post and refuse to admit when wrong when presented with facts, you forget things.  You should know better, when interviewing or interrogating someone, a lie is hard to rememeber. Same same.

BTW, it did workout because both are talking about peace. So "gotcha".

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #66 on: March 25, 2025, 11:18:03 AM »
Because Trump likes to act tough. I figured that was obvious.


I forgot how much you believe in Trump's master negotiator status BS. But maybe you are right, every negotiation the person must act in a way that gives the best chance for success. We will see if Trump's coddling of Putin's balls was what it really took.


So you don't care about integrity in a president. Gotcha.

Trump holds the most powerful elected position in the world -- again.

He's not "acting tough."  He's fulfilling his role.  Stop whining and post something that's better than Orange Man bad.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #67 on: March 25, 2025, 05:59:09 PM »
U forgot what I posed about "integrity" and then further made yourself look foolish again by using "gotcha".

This is what happens when you move goal post and refuse to admit when wrong when presented with facts, you forget things.  You should know better, when interviewing or interrogating someone, a lie is hard to rememeber. Same same.

BTW, it did workout because both are talking about peace. So "gotcha".

I was unaware that your coddling of Trump's balls amounted to facts in your mind.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2025, 06:00:38 PM »
Trump holds the most powerful elected position in the world -- again.

He's not "acting tough."  He's fulfilling his role.  Stop whining and post something that's better than Orange Man bad.

Fulfilling what role? Making the USA look bad? Praising a dictator and blaming the start of the war on the country that was invaded?

Trump could take a dumb in the oval office and you would find a way of turning it into an example of his brilliance.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2025, 07:02:07 PM »
I was unaware that your coddling of Trump's balls amounted to facts in your mind.
Annnddd right on que. Cant admit hes wrong, so refers to homosexual statements.   Thanks for playing.

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changemyoil66

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2025, 07:02:50 PM »
Fulfilling what role? Making the USA look bad? Praising a dictator and blaming the start of the war on the country that was invaded?

Trump could take a dumb in the oval office and you would find a way of turning it into an example of his brilliance.
Fulling the role of making fools look more foolish all by themselves. Read above "acting tough" post.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #71 on: March 25, 2025, 07:26:16 PM »
I was unaware that your coddling of Trump's balls amounted to facts in your mind.

Your objectivity has died a slow and painful death. 

On the plus side, it was already on life support.

#MercyKilling
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #72 on: March 25, 2025, 07:27:50 PM »
Fulfilling what role? Making the USA look bad? Praising a dictator and blaming the start of the war on the country that was invaded?

Trump could take a dumb in the oval office and you would find a way of turning it into an example of his brilliance.

Obama and Biden took care of making the US look bad with never-ending wars and the Weekend at Biden's for 4 years.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #73 on: March 25, 2025, 08:21:55 PM »
i think you've already cornered the market in taking a dumb...

Fulfilling what role? Making the USA look bad? Praising a dictator and blaming the start of the war on the country that was invaded?

Trump could take a dumb in the oval office and you would find a way of turning it into an example of his brilliance.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2025, 12:05:13 AM »
i think you've already cornered the market in taking a dumb...

He's not stopping at one.  He's .taking a dumb and dumber.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2025, 07:16:52 PM »
Fulling the role of making fools look more foolish all by themselves. Read above "acting tough" post.

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You are the one trying to dress up a turd by claiming despicable behavior is good negotiation.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2025, 07:17:40 PM »
Your objectivity has died a slow and painful death. 

On the plus side, it was already on life support.

#MercyKilling

Swoosh
Objectivity doesn't mean I can't have opinions.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2025, 07:18:50 PM »
Obama and Biden took care of making the US look bad with never-ending wars and the Weekend at Biden's for 4 years.

#whataboutism

Not sure if you realize it but criticizing Trump doesn't mean I can't also criticize Biden and Obama right?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2025, 08:12:50 PM »
#whataboutism

Not sure if you realize it but criticizing Trump doesn't mean I can't also criticize Biden and Obama right?

you need to learn the difference between rationalizing what Trump is doing and defending what he does by using what others did as examples of what should not be done.  Trump isn't doing anything near what others have done.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #79 on: March 28, 2025, 08:50:20 PM »
You are the one trying to dress up a turd by claiming despicable behavior is good negotiation.
Hahaha proving my point as i thought u would. Thanks for playing.

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