Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat (Read 13773 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #80 on: March 28, 2025, 08:51:38 PM »
Swoosh
Objectivity doesn't mean I can't have opinions.
Hahahha "objectivity" aka whataboutism.

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hvybarrels

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #81 on: March 28, 2025, 08:54:31 PM »
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #82 on: March 30, 2025, 04:54:42 PM »
you need to learn the difference between rationalizing what Trump is doing and defending what he does by using what others did as examples of what should not be done.  Trump isn't doing anything near what others have done.

Doing something bad isn't more or less bad based on what others have gotten away with. If you compromise your principles because the other side goes low then you have no principles.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #83 on: March 30, 2025, 04:58:38 PM »
Doing something bad isn't more or less bad based on what others have gotten away with. If you compromise your principles because the other side goes low then you have no principles.
Based on your definition above, you are 100% against using lethal force to defend yourself against a lethal threat.

in principle, if killing someone is wrong, how can you justify killing someone you merely believe is a threat?  Maybe they only shot you because they saw you as a threat when you tried to defend yourself?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2025, 12:31:35 AM »
Based on your definition above, you are 100% against using lethal force to defend yourself against a lethal threat.

in principle, if killing someone is wrong, how can you justify killing someone you merely believe is a threat?  Maybe they only shot you because they saw you as a threat when you tried to defend yourself?

Non-sequitur.
I never said killing someone is wrong.

You are trying to justify Trump's actions by pointing to bad things the Democrats have done. That doesn't make what Trump does ok.

If you are playing against another team in sports and they cheat, do you cheat too or do you maintain your integrity and refuse to cheat?

hvybarrels

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #85 on: April 02, 2025, 01:53:18 AM »
Non-sequitur.
I never said killing someone is wrong.

You are trying to justify Trump's actions by pointing to bad things the Democrats have done. That doesn't make what Trump does ok.

If you are playing against another team in sports and they cheat, do you cheat too or do you maintain your integrity and refuse to cheat?

I can tell you what I wouldn’t do. I wouldn’t make any “good faith” concessions for the people who tried to kill me.
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #86 on: April 05, 2025, 05:01:20 PM »
I can tell you what I wouldn’t do. I wouldn’t make any “good faith” concessions for the people who tried to kill me.

Not sure what good faith concessions you are referring to.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #87 on: April 05, 2025, 05:45:24 PM »
Not sure what good faith concessions you are referring to.
Did you skip right over the word "any"?  It's significant to the meaning.

I can tell you what I wouldn’t do. I wouldn’t make any “good faith” concessions for the people who tried to kill me.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #88 on: April 06, 2025, 10:51:12 AM »
Doing something bad isn't more or less bad based on what others have gotten away with. If you compromise your principles because the other side goes low then you have no principles.
Bad?  You've shown your morality to be situational -- changing with the circumstances (it depends).  That's not principled.  That's Liberalism.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #89 on: April 07, 2025, 10:04:19 AM »
Bad?  You've shown your morality to be situational -- changing with the circumstances (it depends).  That's not principled.  That's Liberalism.

You can't defeat the argument so you have to attack my use of "depends"
I'll take that over your whataboutism

changemyoil66

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #90 on: April 07, 2025, 11:12:35 AM »
You can't defeat the argument so you have to attack my use of "depends"
I'll take that over your whataboutism

Hahahahhahaa. Someones ego is kicking in more than usual today.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #91 on: April 08, 2025, 01:09:38 PM »
Hahahahhahaa. Someones ego is kicking in more than usual today.

Awww, did your ego get hurt?

changemyoil66

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #92 on: April 08, 2025, 01:36:29 PM »
Awww, did your ego get hurt?

OMG, you're still trying to play. Hahahhahahahah. 

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #93 on: April 09, 2025, 11:59:55 AM »
OMG, you're still trying to play. Hahahhahahahah.

I am just waiting for you to bring out the banger "I know you are but what am I" since that is you style.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #94 on: April 09, 2025, 12:03:39 PM »
I am just waiting for you to bring out the banger "I know you are but what am I" since that is you style.

Wrong again.  U try to be funny, but end up being wrong...again.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #95 on: April 09, 2025, 12:25:05 PM »
Wrong again.  U try to be funny, but end up being wrong...again.

It would be interesting to see in your mind and find out how you think these comebacks are worth anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #96 on: April 09, 2025, 12:39:24 PM »
It would be interesting to see in your mind and find out how you think these comebacks are worth anything.

I thought you can read minds?  Now you can't?  Figures.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump-Zelinsky oval office spat
« Reply #97 on: April 09, 2025, 12:49:03 PM »
It would be interesting to see in your mind and find out how you think these comebacks are worth anything.


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