Do they have anything in or they sold out as far as ak, ar, and saiga 12?

I was there Friday and they only had 2 ARs that were about $2600 each. The rest were 9mm or .22 lr. They still had a WASR and the Yugo M70.

Don't know about the Saiga 12,  I wasn't looking at shotguns.

Not much left at all unless you're looking for a pistol(s).  I was there Friday too.

I did see some AKs though.  Not sure about the prices since I was in a hurry, and they were super busy.

I think X-Ring got a "shipment" of AKs.  You might want to check with them too.  That was about a week and a half ago.

2 Weeks ago, Gunsources had 1 AK left from Century.  I think he was asking 900 for it.

last time i went was before their christmas shutdown. all i saw on the ak wall was a sks going for 350. probably gone by now though.

x2 for x-ring. was there last friday & saw a boatload of slavshit on consignment. probably the most ak's i've seen all in one place ever since SHTF. dunno how much they going for, though.

We have about six different ak/vepr models in stock plus saiga pg shotguns and ruger mini 14s

I'm surprised and disappointed OGC succumbed to price gouging.

It was already hard enough to buy anything but ammo there (internet is quite a bit cheaper.. as much as they try to claim otherwise) but I tried to do my part to support local business however now that I see they're jacking up the prices I'll be sure not to send any more of my business their way.

Hell even ammo is easy enough to ship in via freight forwarder. Unless you're buying a few boxes at a time (in which case there's plenty of places on island that are cheaper).

/Rant-Off

Right now demand > supply. The demand curve has shifted far right.
Like I said before it is inelastic in the short run. I don't think these short bursts of demand are good for the long term gun industry but it is what it is. Businesses exist for profit.

I'm surprised and disappointed OGC succumbed to price gouging.

It was already hard enough to buy anything but ammo there (internet is quite a bit cheaper.. as much as they try to claim otherwise) but I tried to do my part to support local business however now that I see they're jacking up the prices I'll be sure not to send any more of my business their way.

Hell even ammo is easy enough to ship in via freight forwarder. Unless you're buying a few boxes at a time (in which case there's plenty of places on island that are cheaper).

/Rant-Off

The gun stores are the victims of their suppliers.

The suppliers have raised costs across the board and the gun stores can buy or not have inventory.

The gun stores that pay higher costs have no choice but to raise their selling price as well.

I'm surprised and disappointed OGC succumbed to price gouging.

It was already hard enough to buy anything but ammo there (internet is quite a bit cheaper.. as much as they try to claim otherwise) but I tried to do my part to support local business however now that I see they're jacking up the prices I'll be sure not to send any more of my business their way.

Hell even ammo is easy enough to ship in via freight forwarder. Unless you're buying a few boxes at a time (in which case there's plenty of places on island that are cheaper).

/Rant-Off

nothing beats being able to actually handle your firearm before you buy,

I'm surprised and disappointed OGC succumbed to price gouging.

It was already hard enough to buy anything but ammo there (internet is quite a bit cheaper.. as much as they try to claim otherwise) but I tried to do my part to support local business however now that I see they're jacking up the prices I'll be sure not to send any more of my business their way.

Hell even ammo is easy enough to ship in via freight forwarder. Unless you're buying a few boxes at a time (in which case there's plenty of places on island that are cheaper).

/Rant-Off

OGC has always kept their prices low until they couldn't afford it.  If their prices are high, it's because the distributors and suppliers they buy from have raised their prices.

OGC has always kept their prices low until they couldn't afford it.  If their prices are high, it's because the distributors and suppliers they buy from have raised their prices.

This time it even goes as far as the manufacturers.  We are seeing 15 to even 30 percent hikes on products that wouldn't even be considered for a potential ban!

You will notice that the lines that haven't changed their prices, like sig and s&w are exactly the same price at OGC as they always were.  I'd very much like an example of what you consider us price gouging so we can open up the math.  I'm not being confrontational, or calling anybody out, I'm really willing to share the cost basis differences.

I was there Friday and they only had 2 ARs that were about $2600 each. The rest were 9mm or .22 lr. They still had a WASR and the Yugo M70.

Don't know about the Saiga 12,  I wasn't looking at shotguns.

One was an LWRC SPR  that was actually 2899 that sold and the other is a JP competition stainless match that is for sale for the same.  These aren't CMMGs or such we were trying to profiteer on... But high dollar high end.

Some AKs have gone crazy... For example we used to pay $679 for yugo under folders this year and sell them for $899.  The two we just got cost us $979 and we are selling them for $1299.  That's actually a decrease from a 25.47 margin to 23.86%.  Yeah we are price gouging, making less margin per sale.

And if you want to compare ammo costs please actually order the ammo online and see what happens.  We have to pay premiums to actually get ammo  now rather than be backordered.  Most of the online dealers are completely sold out and are taking preorders that they sometimes don't tell you about until after they have your money. 

It's really easy to anonymously just start bashing businesses on public forums isn't it.

The gun stores are the victims of their suppliers.

The suppliers have raised costs across the board and the gun stores can buy or not have inventory.

The gun stores that pay higher costs have no choice but to raise their selling price as well.

+1.  For example, Mako Group, which imports stuff from Israel, reports that they've stopped answering the phones and have every employee from CEO to stock boy stuffing AR magazines into boxes and sending them out the door.  MagPul is running maximum capacity, 24/7 to try and keep up with demand.  When manufacturers or major importers are running at that pace, their costs go up.  Keeping the lights on and machinery running 24 hours a day increases overhead.  Paying overtime increases overhead.  All of these costs are inevitably passed on to the consumer; the only other option is for these companies to operate at a loss, or at least make less profit per unit sold.  The purpose of a business is to make money for the owners--if they don't make money, they'll stop making products we all want. 

Magpul has publicly stated they are not increasing any of their prices.

I placed an order for 10 PMAGs at $12.99 each last week at Brownells and they just shipped today. Magpul is pumping these out at MSRP and when you see $30 PMAGs its obvious who's doing the hiking. Claiming anything else is just dishonest.

Magpul has publicly stated they are not increasing any of their prices.

I placed an order for 10 PMAGs at $12.99 each last week at Brownells and they just shipped today. Magpul is pumping these out at MSRP and when you see $30 PMAGs its obvious who's doing the hiking. Claiming anything else is just dishonest.

Did you at least get free shipping?

Did you at least get free shipping?

Sure did.

You want to see price gouging?  Go to Honolulu Firearms.   

Even .223 reloads (55gr) are hard to find.  I haven't found any online places that have them in stock.

how are you back ordering on Brownells?  i havent been allowed to backorder pmags for 3 weeks.  at least i managed to backorder a couple of lancer mags. and bought some upgrade kits for USGI mags.

how are you back ordering on Brownells?  i havent been allowed to backorder pmags for 3 weeks.  at least i managed to backorder a couple of lancer mags. and bought some upgrade kits for USGI mags.

Not sure, I just checked now and its not letting me back order. I have a second order pending I placed 3 days ago for some more M3s, we'll see how those go.

A few of my friends placed orders for PMAGs on Christmas Eve and they've received them already.

It's really easy to anonymously just start bashing businesses on public forums isn't it.

I don't know why you're responding to me about price gouging and complaints about it. I never said anything in this thread about unfair prices. In fact, I totally understand your position and how the suppliers are raising prices. Some of the other posters were whining about prices being raised, not me.

The OP asked what was on the shelves and I told him what I could remember. (Of course, I was off about the price on the ARs.)

Forum etiquette is that if you quote someone, your comments in your post are in response to them.