SIG is overpriced anyways. Buy a HK.

I took advantage of SIG's free voluntary P320 trigger upgrade.  The original trigger was manufactured from a more solid piece of metal, the weight of which contributed to the drop-fire problem.  Inertia drove the trigger back enough to fire IF it landed on the back of the slide with sufficient force.

I believe the new trigger being thinner and lighter weight prevents that problem, however I think they only fixed this one symptom and not the real design flaw.

When I was at Front Sight training, one exercise was for tactical mag changes with a "no shoot" decision.  We fired 2 rounds, ejected the mag, inserted another mag, squeezed the trigger to just past the end of the take-up, then "decided" there was no longer any threat.  We then released tension on the trigger.  The take-up part of that exercise was to be ready to continue shooting if necessary.

There is so little travel on the P320 trigger that the take-up is almost nonexistent.  I wound up sending a round down range all 3 times I ran the exercise even though I was not supposed to.  The instructors are watching to make sure all the elements of the exercise are completed including the take-up. Knowing what i know now, i would never put any pressure on the trigger until I'm ready to fire.

The P320 trigger's sensitivity reminds me of most single action revolvers i've owned.  I never let my finger rest on the trigger with the hammer cocked.  Until I've decided to fire I don't touch the trigger. 

In my nonprofessional opinion, if SIG changed the trigger to add a take-up similar to a Glock or other semi-auto pistols, I think the drop-firing problem would be 100% solved as well as the "hair trigger" issue I've seen.  The inertia needed to cause a trigger to travel past some amount of take-up plus still fire would be more than just causing it to fire.

Just my experience and opinion.

I took advantage of SIG's free voluntary P320 trigger upgrade.  The original trigger was manufactured from a more solid piece of metal, the weight of which contributed to the drop-fire problem.  Inertia drove the trigger back enough to fire IF it landed on the back of the slide with sufficient force.

I believe the new trigger being thinner and lighter weight prevents that problem, however I think they only fixed this one symptom and not the real design flaw.

When I was at Front Sight training, one exercise was for tactical mag changes with a "no shoot" decision.  We fired 2 rounds, ejected the mag, inserted another mag, squeezed the trigger to just past the end of the take-up, then "decided" there was no longer any threat.  We then released tension on the trigger.  The take-up part of that exercise was to be ready to continue shooting if necessary.

There is so little travel on the P320 trigger that the take-up is almost nonexistent.  I wound up sending a round down range all 3 times I ran the exercise even though I was not supposed to.  The instructors are watching to make sure all the elements of the exercise are completed including the take-up. Knowing what i know now, i would never put any pressure on the trigger until I'm ready to fire.

Or am I miss understanding how the exercise was run?

The P320 trigger's sensitivity reminds me of most single action revolvers i've owned.  I never let my finger rest on the trigger with the hammer cocked.  Until I've decided to fire I don't touch the trigger. 

In my nonprofessional opinion, if SIG changed the trigger to add a take-up similar to a Glock or other semi-auto pistols, I think the drop-firing problem would be 100% solved as well as the "hair trigger" issue I've seen.  The inertia needed to cause a trigger to travel past some amount of take-up plus still fire would be more than just causing it to fire.

Just my experience and opinion.

I'm no expert, but this exercise sounds fucked up. Like you demonstrated, you fired 3 times when not supposed to. This could lead to the state charging you for shooting a guy who was already on the ground and no longer a threat.  Missing cause maybe you weren't aiming at the target and bullet bounces off the ground and hits someone.

I'm no expert, but this exercise sounds fucked up. Like you demonstrated, you fired 3 times when not supposed to. This could lead to the state charging you for shooting a guy who was already on the ground and no longer a threat.  Missing cause maybe you weren't aiming at the target and bullet bounces off the ground and hits someone.

Yeah, you missed the point.

Part of the 5 day Handgun Self-defense class was to teach us about the benefits of trigger control, trigger resets and pre-firing take-up to just before the trigger "breaks".  This exercise was specifically for mag changes and getting the sights back on target as quickly as possible while planning to take another shot. That included taking up the slack on the trigger.  That reduces the time needed to get back on target as well as reduces the chance of jerking the trigger and messing up your sight picture.

We were trained to fire 2 rounds into the thoracic cavity within 2 seconds.  If necessary, we fired a third round in the cranial-ocular cavity to circumvent body armor, narcotics or other factors that may be keeping the threat active.  So, firing a third round is not a problem legally unless you confess it was unintentional.

in my case, I learned what not to do with a P320 -- don't try to take up the slack before firing.  That's the whole purpose of training -- learning what to do and what not to do.



https://www.heeled.website/practice-guides/_assets/defensive-handgun-2014.pdf

One theory is it's the fault of the Safariland P320 holster with the surefire x300 light, as many of the discharges occur with law enforcement. Though not all of them. The olriginal Safariland holsters have a space around the trigger area to accommodate the wide light. I checked my holster and it does have a gap I can force my pinkie into.
But if something got stuck in the trigger, I'm not sure how it could activate the trigger with the retention on.

One theory is it's the fault of the Safariland P320 holster with the surefire x300 light, as many of the discharges occur with law enforcement. Though not all of them. The olriginal Safariland holsters have a space around the trigger area to accommodate the wide light. I checked my holster and it does have a gap I can force my pinkie into.
But if something got stuck in the trigger, I'm not sure how it could activate the trigger with the retention on.

There is always the possibility of something getting caught in the holster.  A shirt is common, which is why the skill builders I've been to have required shirts to be tucked in.

So I don't' think this theory should be considered.