The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!! (Read 12244 times)

macsak

The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« on: March 23, 2025, 04:27:48 PM »

ren

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2025, 06:18:51 PM »
We have nothing to fear in Hawaii because we have Aloha and big dogs :thumbsup:
Deeds Not Words

QUIETShooter

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2025, 06:59:00 PM »
We have nothing to fear in Hawaii because we have Aloha and big dogs :thumbsup:

AND when you die from home invasions, assault, robbery, and mass shooters, Law Enforcement Officials, the Mayor, and the Governor will say prayers that go out to the family of the victims.

AND Chris Marvin from Everytown will say gun control is working because if the victim had a gun more people would have died.

So DIE you victims, criminals have rights and are just misunderstood you know.........

Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2025, 06:45:05 PM »
Some of the advice is good under certain circumstances but he seems a bit too full of himself.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2025, 07:36:21 PM »
Some of the advice is good under certain circumstances but he seems a bit too full of himself.

You've got to be the most judgmental person i've had the displeasure of reading.  it's not enough to give praise for the information, but you then have to assassinate the man's character.

Seems you revel in trying to knock down people you never met for nothing more than your dislike of their presentation, attitude, or some other irrelevant attribute.

Must be tough living in today's world when nearly everyone you try to discuss rubs you the wrong way.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2025, 08:31:05 PM »
do you ever make a definitve statement?

Some of the advice is good under certain circumstances but he seems a bit too full of himself.

RSN172

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2025, 08:16:41 AM »
One of the worst myths that will get you killed is call 911 instead of keeping a gun in the house.
Happily living in Puna

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2025, 05:48:56 PM »
do you ever make a definitve statement?

You want me to say his advice is either all good or all bad all the time?

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2025, 05:49:59 PM »
You've got to be the most judgmental person i've had the displeasure of reading. 

Oh the irony. Needed a good chuckle today.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2025, 06:31:25 PM »
Oh the irony. Needed a good chuckle today.

I judge the stupidity and divisiveness of your argumentative posts, not you as a person.

Big, big difference.

Same for politicians and so forth.  I judge their statements and actions more than the way in which they express themselves.

"A bit full of  himself" sounds more like you than the video maker, but i would never go there outside of the context of discussing your BS.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2025, 07:45:08 PM »
no
i want you to make a statement without THREE qualifying statements included...

You want me to say his advice is either all good or all bad all the time?

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2025, 08:22:04 PM »
no
i want you to make a statement without THREE qualifying statements included...

Sorry but that is just how I talk. When I can't be certain of something I ad qualifying statements to account for the possibility I am wrong. I also do so because it would be wrong to say such things are always true. His advice wasn't all bad in my opinion.

Think of it like when a scientist describes something they study, it is very common not for them not to say A causes B rather they qualify it by saying something akin to "There is a high probability that A causes B.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2025, 04:20:27 PM by eyeeatingfish »

macsak

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2025, 08:53:27 PM »
that's ONE qualifying statement
you made THREE
focus...

Sorry but that is just how I talk. When I can't be certain of something or I ad qualifying statements to account for the possibility I am wrong. I also do so because it would be wrong to say such things are always true. His advice wasn't all bad in my opinion.

Think of it like when a scientist describes something they study, it is very common not for them not to say A causes B rather they qualify it by saying something akin to "There is a high probability that A causes B.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2025, 10:05:56 PM »
Sorry but that is just how I talk. When I can't be certain of something or I ad qualifying statements to account for the possibility I am wrong. I also do so because it would be wrong to say such things are always true. His advice wasn't all bad in my opinion.

Think of it like when a scientist describes something they study, it is very common not for them not to say A causes B rather they qualify it by saying something akin to "There is a high probability that A causes B.

Maybe a better approach would be to stop inserting yourself in so many threads -- in particular the ones in which you have no actual opinion.

If you have to qualify your statements to the degree we see all the time, maybe those comments are not worth posting. I KNOW they aren't worth reading or discussing most of the time.

My mother used to say, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."  I think Thumper's mom told him the same thing.   :geekdanc:

I'd be happy if people would only post things they actually know something about -- not when they feel like interjecting overly qualified comments just to make themselves feel like part of the group.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2025, 04:22:49 PM »
that's ONE qualifying statement
you made THREE
focus...

So?
They were two separate statements BTW. One had 1 qualifier and the other had 2.
I said he seemed too full of himself. I could be wrong, if I met him in person I could very much find he is not full of himself.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2025, 04:24:58 PM »
So?
They were two separate statements BTW. One had 1 qualifier and the other had 2.
I said he seemed too full of himself. I could be wrong, if I met him in person I could very much find he is not full of himself.

Ask yourself why others here aren't trying to defend their comments by parsing how many qualifiers they use.

There's an important reason.  Ask if you need help with the answer.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2025, 04:26:07 PM »
Maybe a better approach would be to stop inserting yourself in so many threads -- in particular the ones in which you have no actual opinion.

Rather ironic given you have 3x the amount of posts I have and I have been on this forum longer than you (assuming you haven't used more than one handle
And I did give an opinion in this one.

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If you have to qualify your statements to the degree we see all the time, maybe those comments are not worth posting. I KNOW they aren't worth reading or discussing most of the time.

Then don't read or reply. I don't make comments to win a popularity contest.

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I'd be happy if people would only post things they actually know something about -- not when they feel like interjecting overly qualified comments just to make themselves feel like part of the group.

I did post something I actually know about. I didn't randomly criticize his video.

eyeeatingfish

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2025, 04:30:12 PM »
Ask yourself why others here aren't trying to defend their comments by parsing how many qualifiers they use.

There's an important reason.  Ask if you need help with the answer.

So you and Macsak can attack my comments by parsing how many qualifiers I use but I cannot defend my comment by explaining my use of qualifiers? Seems hypocritical to me plus it has nothing to do with the accuracy of my statement.

Macsak took issue about how many qualifiers I used so I gave him an explanation to help him understand why I use qualifiers.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2025, 04:59:59 PM »
So you and Macsak can attack my comments by parsing how many qualifiers I use but I cannot defend my comment by explaining my use of qualifiers? Seems hypocritical to me plus it has nothing to do with the accuracy of my statement.

Macsak took issue about how many qualifiers I used so I gave him an explanation to help him understand why I use qualifiers.

Discussion comments are like jokes.

If you have to explain them, you've already failed.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: The Worst Self Defense Myths that WILL Get You KILLED!!
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2025, 06:05:20 PM »
i can imagine the police reports you write:
"the suspect was seen firing the handgun at the victim by 5 eyewitnesses. suspect was caught with the handgun at the scene of the shooting.  gunshot residue was found on the suspect's hands, and the handgun was a ballistics match for the bullets retrieved from the victim. it could be more than likely that it appears that the suspect may have shot the victim..."

So?
They were two separate statements BTW. One had 1 qualifier and the other had 2.
I said he seemed too full of himself. I could be wrong, if I met him in person I could very much find he is not full of himself.