UK set to ban Ninja Swords starting this Summer (Read 1432 times)

Flapp_Jackson

UK set to ban Ninja Swords starting this Summer
« on: March 28, 2025, 12:34:15 PM »
It's always to weapon used -- not so much the person using it

Ninja sword ban in place by summer after
'relentless' campaign by family of murdered teenager

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A law banning ninja swords is set to come into force by summer after
a "relentless" campaign by the family of a murdered teenager.

Ronan Kanda, 16, was stabbed to death with a ninja sword yards away
from his home in Wolverhampton in 2022 in a case of mistaken identity.

Now, the final part of Ronan's Law, a series of anti-knife crime measures,
will make it illegal to possess, sell, make, or import ninja swords from
1 August.

The ban will be presented before parliament on Thursday and will come
into force in the summer once it has gained approval.

Ronan's mother, Pooja Kanda, has said: "Today marks a very important
day for us as a family and our campaign.

"Since losing our beautiful boy Ronan, we have relentlessly campaigned
for a ban on ninja swords - the lethal weapon which took his life.

"We believe ninja swords have no place in our society other than to seriously
harm and kill."

Ms Kanda added: "Each step towards tackling knife crime is a step
towards getting justice for our boy Ronan."
https://news.sky.com/story/ninja-sword-ban-in-place-by-summer-after-relentless-campaign-by-family-of-murdered-teenager-13336451

Justice?  Is it justice to punish everyone who never used a sword to harm anyone for the crime committed by one person?

Just one more segment on that slippery slope of trying to ban anything that might be used wrongfully.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: UK set to ban Ninja Swords starting this Summer
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2025, 01:30:48 PM »
His mom sounds like what our anti 2a sound like.  Blame the tool and not the underlying problem.

Her son was killed due to a mistaken identity. They guy who killed him thought he was someone else who owed him money.  So regardless of if he was able to buy a sword online or not, this probably would have happened anyways as the killer planned this.

The UK has gone crazy with banning knives and sharp objects. YOu can go to jail for even having a screwdriver on you.  Cops give Orange Cards to show to your work if you're late due to being searched. No probable cause needed as the don't have that right either.

Still no word on what they're doing for their no-go zones. 

QUIETShooter

Re: UK set to ban Ninja Swords starting this Summer
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2025, 02:59:45 PM »
This foolish logic will someday spawn something like this:

Government agencies that you must go to have your meat, vegetables, and fruit cut. (household knives will be banned)

Government agencies you must go to with your hardware so they can hammer, screw, and saw the pieces to build what you want. (tools will be banned)

Government agnecies you must go to rent sporting equipment like golf clubs, bats, balls, fishing gear, spears, etc.  Prison time for those who do not return equipment in a timely manner.

Forget about firearms for sport and hunting.  There is no government agency for that.  Nor is there any firearm anywhere in the civilian world.  Only the government has them.

And the criminals.



Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: UK set to ban Ninja Swords starting this Summer
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2025, 03:21:50 PM »
This foolish logic will someday spawn something like this:

Government agencies that you must go to have your meat, vegetables, and fruit cut. (household knives will be banned)

Government agencies you must go to with your hardware so they can hammer, screw, and saw the pieces to build what you want. (tools will be banned)

Government agnecies you must go to rent sporting equipment like golf clubs, bats, balls, fishing gear, spears, etc.  Prison time for those who do not return equipment in a timely manner.

Forget about firearms for sport and hunting.  There is no government agency for that.  Nor is there any firearm anywhere in the civilian world.  Only the government has them.

And the criminals.

The real failure of their logic is not so much government limiting access to weapons because they fear an uprising, which is the main reason for 2A protection.

The real failure is the promise that banning types of guns makes society safer. 
Then all handguns. 
Then all rifles.
Then all shotguns.
Then anything that fires a projectile (bows, crossbows, spearguns, ....).
Then long pointy objects (spears, swords, bayonets...).
Then all pointy objects (pocket knives, nail guns, ...).

All of these bans in the name of public safety, yet each and every one of them unable to make anyone safer.

We've already seen chemical attacks -- throwing acids in people's faces.  I guess bleach, ammonia, caustic drain cleaners and other such products will be on the list soon.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: UK set to ban Ninja Swords starting this Summer
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2025, 05:27:46 PM »
Samurai swords okay?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: UK set to ban Ninja Swords starting this Summer
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2025, 05:34:30 PM »
Samurai swords okay?
Are you planning to move there?
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Ronan's Law will, Labour said, include a ban on the possession of a
wider range of dangerous weapons and introduce a review of online
knife sales with tougher enforcement of ID checks.

In Ronan's case, Veadhesa was able to purchase a knife online in his
mother's name and then pick up the weapon without any process of ID
verification.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: UK set to ban Ninja Swords starting this Summer
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2025, 05:40:15 PM »
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Patrick Green, from the Ben Kinsella Trust, said measures under
Ronan's Law were critical to breaking the supply chain.

He said the weapons were simply instruments of war that had
"absolutely no place in our society or on our streets".

The majority of ninja swords have a blade between 14 inches and
24 inches, with a straight cutting edge and pointed end.

From 1 August, ninja swords will be banned, and anyone found
with one in private could face six months in jail, later increasing
to two years. Carrying any weapon in public already carries a
penalty of imprisonment up to four years.

it will also be illegal to possess, sell, make or import the weapon

Measures also include increasing the jail sentence for selling
weapons to children, or illegal blades such as zombie knives, to
two years.

Ronan's Law will require online retailers to report any bulk or
suspicious-looking purchases of knives to the police.

The government is also set to consult on introducing a licensing
scheme for retailers who want to sell knives in the spring.

A surrender scheme will run throughout July to allow members
of the public to hand weapons in.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mwdj0jd7ro
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: UK set to ban Ninja Swords starting this Summer
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2025, 05:51:11 PM »
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There were 262 murders in England and Wales involving a knife or sharp
instrument in the year to March 2024, according to the Ben Kinsella Trust.
Fifty-seven of those killed were under 25.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g0ldgvnx3o

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw