A poll to see where people stand on Trump's recent tariffs.
I will add my thoughts in a post a little later.

perhaps maybe i might potentially fill this out in the near future if i am slightly confident i might have a guess about what i could possibly say...

A poll to see where people stand on Trump's recent tariffs.
I will add my thoughts in a post a little later.

perhaps maybe i might potentially fill this out in the near future if i am slightly confident i might have a guess about what i could possibly say...

I'd take that as a definite maybe for now, but still subject to change unless it no longer matters.

Maybe hes doing a good job and maybe hes doing an average job and maybe hes doing a bad job.

Its also possible hes doing a slighlty good job.

Its possible hes doing a slightly bad job .

If trumps job is iffy and if its a good or bad job, depends on the stance of the potential strawman argument or non strawman. But then it could depend on a story about an icee machine that may or may not serve cold vanilla or non vanilla flavor as an example

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Trumps tariffs are proving to be a disaster. I didn't support his tariff plans in the beginning but I figure he deserves the benefit of the doubt, maybe the author of the art of the deal knew what he was talking about and could actually make it work.

But Trump isn't making it work, he is just making a mess. He is making a mess of the markets and international trade, he is pissing off allies, and making impossible and unrealistic promises of jobs returning to America. He isn't on the same page as his administration, flip flops on the purposes of the tariffs, and flip flops on whether there are going to be exemptions. Trump even insulted his own trade agreement from his first term in office.

And to make things worse, his die hard supporters are never going to admit he messed things up because they will always find a different way to point to failure as a success. They will add another dimension to his chess board to justify the damage Trump is causing.

Hope that statement isn't too soft for your liking.

Trumps tariffs are proving to be a disaster. I didn't support his tariff plans in the beginning but I figure he deserves the benefit of the doubt, maybe the author of the art of the deal knew what he was talking about and could actually make it work.

But Trump isn't making it work, he is just making a mess. He is making a mess of the markets and international trade, he is pissing off allies, and making impossible and unrealistic promises of jobs returning to America. He isn't on the same page as his administration, flip flops on the purposes of the tariffs, and flip flops on whether there are going to be exemptions. Trump even insulted his own trade agreement from his first term in office.

And to make things worse, his die hard supporters are never going to admit he messed things up because they will always find a different way to point to failure as a success. They will add another dimension to his chess board to justify the damage Trump is causing.

Hope that statement isn't too soft for your liking.

Who are you addressing?

Why are you posting your comments here?  There are already threads addressing the tariffs.  Rebuttals to your criticisms and opinions here already exist there.

Maybe you were tired of being proven wrong, so you decided to start your own Trump-bashing thread disguised as a poll.

Nothing you do surprises me.  Never wrong -- Never apologetic. 

Who are you addressing?

Take your pick, 3 of you responded in the same vein.

Why are you posting your comments here?  There are already threads addressing the tariffs.  Rebuttals to your criticisms and opinions here already exist there.

To have a poll and a topic dedicated to the issue and a fresh start without trolling (didn't take long for that to fail)

Maybe you were tired of being proven wrong, so you decided to start your own Trump-bashing thread disguised as a poll.

Nothing you do surprises me.  Never wrong -- Never apologetic.

False premise and sorry, I didn't realize your leader was not allowed to be criticized on this forum. You going to report me because I dare point out where Trump is failing?

Take your pick, 3 of you responded in the same vein.

So, you're saying you don't know.

To have a poll and a topic dedicated to the issue and a fresh start without trolling (didn't take long for that to fail)

This is a duplicate topic in a separate thread so you could try to control the discuss.  You disguised it as a poll to avoid having it removed.

False premise and sorry, I didn't realize your leader was not allowed to be criticized on this forum. You going to report me because I dare point out where Trump is failing?

Please show me where i said any of that.

You really do love straw man arguing, huh?

Who are you addressing?

Why are you posting your comments here?  There are already threads addressing the tariffs.  Rebuttals to your criticisms and opinions here already exist there.

Maybe you were tired of being proven wrong, so you decided to start your own Trump-bashing thread disguised as a poll.

Nothing you do surprises me.  Never wrong -- Never apologetic.

He lost having the last word in other threads, so stating a new one is his new method to get a good feeling.

So, you're saying you don't know.

Wrong. Reading comprehension isn't that hard.

This is a duplicate topic in a separate thread so you could try to control the discuss.  You disguised it as a poll to avoid having it removed.

Feel free to point to the other thread specifically about Trump's tariffs.
I disguised it? So are you saying you are a mind reader? You think it should be removed? Are you that bothered when someone criticizes the dear leader that you must have it removed?
The question is why you couldn't have a dedicated thread about tariffs without turning it to a mud slinging contest? You couldn't even be bothered to defend the tariffs

Please show me where i said any of that.

I didn't say you said any of that. It was a sarcastic response to your stupid, baseless reply.

He lost having the last word in other threads, so stating a new one is his new method to get a good feeling.

Another post showing you can't help yourself but to derail another thread.

Another post showing you can't help yourself but to derail another thread.

You derailed your own thread when you started attacking everyone you disagree with:

And to make things worse, his die hard supporters are never going to admit
he messed things up because they will always find a different way to point to
failure as a success. They will add another dimension to his chess board to
justify the damage Trump is causing.

Hope that statement isn't too soft for your liking.

None of that has to do with tariffs, but rather the people you don't like supporting Trump in general.

If you can't stay on your own topic, don't blame others for derailing it.

Another post showing you can't help yourself but to derail another thread.

Is it?  You keep responding.

You derailed your own thread when you started attacking everyone you disagree with:
None of that has to do with tariffs, but rather the people you don't like supporting Trump in general.

I didn't say anyone here was a die hard Trump supporter. Is this an admission by you?
You didn't do anything to defend his tariffs, just complained that I pointed out some people will blindly justify them.

If you can't stay on your own topic, don't blame others for derailing it.

The topic is support levels for his tariffs. Pointing out there are people who will justify the tariffs regardless of how good or bad it turns out is part of that. You talk of democrats who did such things about Biden, now you are upset I say there are MAGA people who would do the same for Trump?

I didn't say anyone here was a die hard Trump supporter. Is this an admission by you?
You didn't do anything to defend his tariffs, just complained that I pointed out some people will blindly justify them.


The topic is support levels for his tariffs. Pointing out there are people who will justify the tariffs regardless of how good or bad it turns out is part of that. You talk of democrats who did such things about Biden, now you are upset I say there are MAGA people who would do the same for Trump?

Since almost 80% of the people voting on your poll agree 100% with the tariff's, i'm sure you are lumping most of that number into your "people who will justify the tariffs regardless of how good or bad it turns out." 

True, or not?

What a wonderful Republic we live in.  We vote on people who tell us their vision and what they would do if elected.  We vote and elect those who reflect those values and vision we would like to see the country head into.

I would imagine trust and faith would factor in when casting that vote.

And yes, in this particular instance, blind support for what Trump is doing is going to happen.  The poll of this thread shows this.  Most people don't know jack sh*t about tariffs and how they work in the overall picture of complex world trade.

But Trump is leading like a leader does and doing what a leader says he'll do.  Those who hate will hate and those who will be affected by this issue will complain, bitch, and moan.

I say let this thing play out.  Support the POTUS.  Geeesh.  It hasn't even been 100 days in the administration and people are bitching, moaning, or questioning his moves.

I didn't say anyone here was a die hard Trump supporter. Is this an admission by you?
You didn't do anything to defend his tariffs, just complained that I pointed out some people will blindly justify them.


The topic is support levels for his tariffs. Pointing out there are people who will justify the tariffs regardless of how good or bad it turns out is part of that. You talk of democrats who did such things about Biden, now you are upset I say there are MAGA people who would do the same for Trump?

Why did you automatically include "I didn't say anyone here was a die hard Trump Supporter" when Flapp never even mentioned it in the comment you quoted?  Did he say you said this in another post, that you didn't quote?

Why did you automatically include "I didn't say anyone here was a die hard Trump Supporter" when Flapp never even mentioned it in the comment you quoted?  Did he say you said this in another post, that you didn't quote?

I said to EEF, "...you started attacking everyone you disagree with." 

I guess he equates die hard Trump supporters with everyone he disagrees with.

Objectively speaking, of course.

Since almost 80% of the people voting on your poll agree 100% with the tariff's, i'm sure you are lumping most of that number into your "people who will justify the tariffs regardless of how good or bad it turns out." 

True, or not?

Not true.

Why is it "attacking" to say that there are some who will never admit Trump was wrong?

What a wonderful Republic we live in.  We vote on people who tell us their vision and what they would do if elected.  We vote and elect those who reflect those values and vision we would like to see the country head into.

I would imagine trust and faith would factor in when casting that vote.

And yes, in this particular instance, blind support for what Trump is doing is going to happen.  The poll of this thread shows this.  Most people don't know jack sh*t about tariffs and how they work in the overall picture of complex world trade.

But Trump is leading like a leader does and doing what a leader says he'll do.  Those who hate will hate and those who will be affected by this issue will complain, bitch, and moan.

I say let this thing play out.  Support the POTUS.  Geeesh.  It hasn't even been 100 days in the administration and people are bitching, moaning, or questioning his moves.

There is the legal question of whether Trump actually has the power to set all these tariffs since congress only gave the president power to set tariffs in emergencies. That is being challenged in court right now but if SCOTUS ends up giving Trump a wide berth for tariffs then letting it play out is indeed how it is going to work. Maybe Trump will learn his mistake and change course, maybe republicans will lose congress, the voters will have a say.

Is 100 days too early to call his tariffs a mess? I don't think so but if in 2-3 years we see substantial benefits that outweigh the negatives I will freely admit Trump was right. In the meantime, the numbers aren't pointing in his favor.