When "free speech" becomes "incitement to violence": Israeli Couple Killed in DC (Read 3286 times)

Flapp_Jackson

So, there have been "protests' across the US at Ivy League and other colleges in support of Hamas, Gaza, Palestine, or whatever else they claim.  Many gatherings devolved into pure anti-Israel, antiSemitic hate-fests.  There have been many instances of violence against Jewish people including vandalizing synagogues, antisemitic graffiti, and even attacking a Jewish student group on a campus where they had to barricade the place to keep themselves safe from "protesters."

Leftists are becoming radicalized the more the media, politicians and schools push the anti-Israel, Palestinian "genocide" messages.

This week, there was an event held at the Capitol Jewish Museum.  About 9pm, the two victims, both Israeli citizens, were assassinated as they left the museum.  The shooter was a 30 year old from Chicago, Elias Rodriguez.  He attempted to enter the museum after the shooting, but event security detained him.

As he was being detained, he yelled, "Free Palestine."

This is one example of why people with very public profiles need  to be careful of what they say and post.  It only takes one person in the public eye posting one image -- such as a picture of seashells -- to incite someone to violence.

There's a reason this isn't getting as much attention as other news.  I think the anti-Jewish comments by many in power and the media says it all.

If you keep saying Trump is literally Hitler, someone is going to use violence to stop him.

If you keep calling israel defending itself against terrorism "genocide," someone is going to use violence to stop them.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/israeli-embassy-washington-dc-shooting-05-21-25
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The useful idiots have been given the green light to shoot unarmed people in the back, on the streets:  The CEO, these two, most likely more to come.  Their comrades celebrate them.  That Luigi guy was lauded pretty much immediately.  Surveys of the meat puppet rabble showed they thought it was fine - since fucking when?  About 15 minutes ago.

I know I could shoot another human being who was trying to kill me or someone else.  I know what it’s like to be targeted by violence.

But one thing I cannot process is gunning down - shooting in the back - on the street - some human being, just to make a political point.  He shot that woman in the back, and repeatedly gunned her down as she tried to get away.

Anyway, the point is, I don’t think there is any question that a line has been crossed by these ideological monsters.

If you are actively involved in any institution or association that they have identified as an enemy of their deranged ideology - I believe you are put on notice by these heinous acts.

If you don’t have it, get your CCW.  Keep your head on a swivel.  There’s more to deal with now than just the usual background violence.
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garans someone is going to chime in after his shift ends to mansplain how we are all seeing this wrong
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So, there have been "protests' across the US at Ivy League and other colleges in support of Hamas, Gaza, Palestine, or whatever else they claim.  Many gatherings devolved into pure anti-Israel, antiSemitic hate-fests.  There have been many instances of violence against Jewish people including vandalizing synagogues, antisemitic graffiti, and even attacking a Jewish student group on a campus where they had to barricade the place to keep themselves safe from "protesters."

Leftists are becoming radicalized the more the media, politicians and schools push the anti-Israel, Palestinian "genocide" messages.

This week, there was an event held at the Capitol Jewish Museum.  About 9pm, the two victims, both Israeli citizens, were assassinated as they left the museum.  The shooter was a 30 year old from Chicago, Elias Rodriguez.  He attempted to enter the museum after the shooting, but event security detained him.

As he was being detained, he yelled, "Free Palestine."

This is one example of why people with very public profiles need  to be careful of what they say and post.  It only takes one person in the public eye posting one image -- such as a picture of seashells -- to incite someone to violence.

There's a reason this isn't getting as much attention as other news.  I think the anti-Jewish comments by many in power and the media says it all.

If you keep saying Trump is literally Hitler, someone is going to use violence to stop him.

If you keep calling israel defending itself against terrorism "genocide," someone is going to use violence to stop them.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/israeli-embassy-washington-dc-shooting-05-21-25

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Flapp_Jackson

garans someone is going to chime in after his shift ends to mansplain how we are all seeing this wrong
#addingnuance

Yeah.  if i can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt to his liking that my opinion is correct, then it's his job to perpetually point that out post after post.  Then the childish argument invariably ensues.

He loves his little thought experiments, but he hasn't learned that most of us don't like to play his games.

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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Yeah.  if i can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt to his liking that my opinion is correct, then it's his job to perpetually point that out post after post.  Then the childish argument invariably ensues.

He loves his little thought experiments, but he hasn't learned that most of us don't like to play his games.

Hey that’s my mother in law.
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hvybarrels

He’s actually pretty mellow compared to the levels of derangement out there. I mean for one thing he doesn’t seem like the type to murder someone in cold blood without being directly instructed to do so by his superiors.

I don’t think that I want to go back to the mainland for a while. At least in Hawaii we still have alternative justice when the Marxist legal system tries to sew chaos by giving violent criminals a get out of jail free pass.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/05/22/family-woman-with-special-needs-thanks-public-support-after-attack/
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changemyoil66

I have seen multiple independent journalist post vids of these types of protestors blocking entrances and exits to buildings.

I've seen them not allow a Jew to walk on the pavement on a campus that they're blocking. He was wearing that Jewish hat.

I've seen them destroy other protestors signs/table who supported Israel.

I've seen unknown liquids thown by them to other people who questioned them or had a different opinion.

The above are not 1 time events, but multiple times.

And little to nothing about this by the main stream media.  It's like they've picked a side to protect.

hvybarrels


The above are not 1 time events, but multiple times.

And little to nothing about this by the main stream media.  It's like they've picked a side to protect.

The dying establishment has to start a civil war. That’s their only remaining way to avoid being executed for treason at this point. The investigation into President Autopen is going to unravel the entire syndicate.

https://www.kunstler.com/p/stumblebums-legacy

Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

changemyoil66



He has many good vids besides this one.  I would like to know what his relationship is like with his spouse as they're both former spookes.

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He’s actually pretty mellow compared to the levels of derangement out there. I mean for one thing he doesn’t seem like the type to murder someone in cold blood without being directly instructed to do so by his superiors.

I don’t think that I want to go back to the mainland for a while. At least in Hawaii we still have alternative justice when the Marxist legal system tries to sew chaos by giving violent criminals a get out of jail free pass.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/05/22/family-woman-with-special-needs-thanks-public-support-after-attack/

“… the reality is that in modern day life, the diabolical incursion is, by the judgement of any rational and balanced individual, stunning in its degree and intensity.” - Fr. Chad Ripperger, exorcist, from the introduction of Dominion, published 2022.

We are being incited to violence constantly, by creatures who know very well that the authorities here will, in essence, actually protect them, and that those who take matters into their own hands will be prosecuted.  The only comfort I take is that in my neighborhood (across Kam IV housing), by relationship and experience, I know my neighbors will back me up, because we’ve had to face down these monsters somewhat regularly over time - and that’s all we’ve got - each other.
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QUIETShooter

Sometimes, sometimes, not always, I wish for WROL.

Then law-abiding citizens are free to vent their frustrations and anger towards the dangerous and protected species.

I don't think I'll ever get tired of seeing the "uh-oh...." look on their faces when they realize the playing field has now been evened.

I'm only human.  I get primal when I hear and see almost daily the injustices being handed out in the streets, in the privacy of homes and schools, and most dastardly of all, in the courtrooms.
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Sometimes, sometimes, not always, I wish for WROL.

Then law-abiding citizens are free to vent their frustrations and anger towards the dangerous and protected species.

I don't think I'll ever get tired of seeing the "uh-oh...." look on their faces when they realize the playing field has now been evened.

I'm only human.  I get primal when I hear and see almost daily the injustices being handed out in the streets, in the privacy of homes and schools, and most dastardly of all, in the courtrooms.

Same here.

I have much unrequited vengeance, and the hard truth is that, instead of regret, I’d feel nothing but satisfaction from loosing it on a worthy target that pushed me over the line.

Maybe I need some counseling.

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hvybarrels

Same here.

I have much unrequited vengeance, and the hard truth is that, instead of regret, I’d feel nothing but satisfaction from loosing it on a worthy target that pushed me over the line.

Maybe I need some counseling.



The problem with indulging in hatred and violent ideation is that others can use it to control you for their own purposes.

In fact that’s why the intelligence agencies have been trying so hard to provoke us for the past few years. Unfortunately the leftists do not have a strong moral foundation and are far easier to manipulate. Plus the media rewards them for it.



Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Same here.

I have much unrequited vengeance, and the hard truth is that, instead of regret, I’d feel nothing but satisfaction from loosing it on a worthy target that pushed me over the line.

Maybe I need some counseling.
The thing about feelings is we, as higher-order beings, have the self-awareness to govern ourselves.  A feeling that violence is the correct response gets tempered by the potential consequences that might result as well as the morality taught by parents and religion.  if we lived in a hedonistic society where the only concern is feeling good, we'd be in a lot of trouble.

The prospect that we could lower ourselves to behave as those who wronged us in order to get justice creates a paradox -- just like the death penalty.  Killing a killer to exact justice becomes a hypocritical contradiction, but that's the extreme instance.  If someone robs us, couldn't justice come in the form of financial restitution?  and if that's the pattern, then assault could require that the perp receives like treatment in a controlled setting -- a broken rib, a smashed face, or a lost eye equal to the injuries they inflicted.  Somehow putting them behind bars, paying to feed, clothe, render healthcare, and maintain the facilities continues to put a burden on society with no guarantee of a positive outcome.  Sure, they lost a portion of their freedom for some time, but is that just compensation for their crimes when victims live with pain and suffering daily for life?

An eye for an eye is more than a metaphorical suggestion. In the words of Max Cady,
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What shall be my compensation, sir...for being held down and sodomized
by four white guys...or four black guys?

Shall my compensation be the same?  What is the formula for compensation, sir?

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If your enemy is demanding chaos then it’s your duty to restore order.
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I guess I should be more careful with respect emoting on here.

It seems that the emotional content is sized upon far more than the context and manner of my communication - which I expected to pretty much belay that effect.

Life’s a learning curve - my apologies if anyone was nudged drop a dime on me  :o

Suffice it to say, I well understand the wise points raised, which is why you have never read about me in the crime blotter.

Further, I learned a long time ago that this conversation goes back to the fall of man from grace, and in connection with that, who the prince of this world is, for the time being.

However if I was strictly disciplined in communicating solely from that core understanding, I could not freely carouse and occasionally curse on this wonderful forum, and life would be less fun.

Speaking of fun, why not just think of me as the “unhinged hellfire” counterpart to EEF?

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changemyoil66

We are a nation of laws.  Does that make us more civilized? Depends because said laws protect stupid people.

I was talking to a teacher who was retiring and she was talking about how back in the day, she could use the ruler on a kid who acts up.  And the kid won't tell their parents cause then the parents would give spankings too.  If she were to do that today, she would go to jail.

IDK when the laws prevented this, but there def wasn't any enforcement if it was in place at the time back then.

Too bad we don't have a "no ack up" law.  If you get injured for doing something stupid, then oh well. No jail for the attacker, no lawsuit. Like say blocking traffic to protest something and a car runs u over. Or a driver comes out and knocks you out.  If u throw paint on something and a security guard knocks you out, no problem.  Your Tesla gets keyed and you find the guy and knock him out.  My fav, when the vegans locked their neck to the chicken machine and it turned on for a second, scaring those locked and they panicked trying to find the key to open the bike lock.  Had the machine not turned off quickly, then oh well. No arrest, no civil lawsuit.

It seems that laws and enforcement of them protect the "bad" people.  No different from anti 2a laws that no criminal would obey.

I assume people doing stupid things will be reduced.

So for the situation I posted above in this thread, if someone was blocking your entrance to the building and you were to punch them in the face, oh well. No arrest, no civil lawsuit.  But currently if you were to do that, you would likely get arrested and tried for assault and even a civil lawsuit after.

QUIETShooter

I've always committed myself to a life of peace, to be with my family and friends until I die.

But I've always hoped that if I and my loved ones become victims of violence, that I would have the means available to even the playing field.  A fighting chance to protect those I love and the things I own.

Sad to say, with the current conditions, it is not going to happen.

I'll avoid violence at all costs, but when cornered and my back to the wall, I will not bow, cower, or cry.  I'm more the "let's do this" type of guy.
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I've always committed myself to a life of peace, to be with my family and friends until I die.

But I've always hoped that if I and my loved ones become victims of violence, that I would have the means available to even the playing field.  A fighting chance to protect those I love and the things I own.

Sad to say, with the current conditions, it is not going to happen.

I'll avoid violence at all costs, but when cornered and my back to the wall, I will not bow, cower, or cry.  I'm more the "let's do this" type of guy.

Ditto

….. but then I’d set them on fire.
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