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January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there. (Read 159108 times)

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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2013, 11:43:48 PM »
I'll show up and will spread the word to some buddies.  Maybe some of the LGS can advertise that they will be passing out discount coupons at the meet for the bruddahs that show up.
Good incentive for more supporters. :shake:
 Need to show support.  HRA can probably recruit more members (including myself). 

xer 21

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2013, 12:00:19 AM »
I'll show up and will spread the word to some buddies.  Maybe some of the LGS can advertise that they will be passing out discount coupons at the meet for the bruddahs that show up.
Good incentive for more supporters. :shake:
 Need to show support.  HRA can probably recruit more members (including myself).
i bet if you promised everyone who showed up a PMAG, we'd have great numbers.

hnl.flyboy

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2013, 02:30:04 AM »
I'm really pumped up about this...

I think I can spare a few (used) 30-round GI mags to be given to a random person showing up..

Edited to add: I MIGHT be able to also fill one or more with M855 Ball...
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2013, 03:03:54 AM »
Please no hardware.  This is getting organized behind the scenes best we can - at this point it is truly still up to us, the people, to get it done.  Any recommendations for signs, volunteers or other ideas etc. please post them up.  Time is of the essence. 
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2013, 03:14:36 AM »
fishandshoot check PM!
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2013, 06:27:13 AM »
I'm really pumped up about this...

I think I can spare a few (used) 30-round GI mags to be given to a random person showing up..

Edited to add: I MIGHT be able to also fill one or more with M855 Ball...
I know where you're going with this and why, but you should probably leave the mags at home (definitely not bring ANY ammo [HRS §134-27]). While it's a nice thing you're trying to do, getting tossed in the clink for having a standard capacity mag would be bad for the statement being made.  :thumbsup:
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. ~Thomas Paine


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macsak

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2013, 07:39:29 AM »
yeah, the original facebook posts point out that people should avoid wearing camo (and might i add all black and web gear/vests)
and try not to wear shirts (or say) "cold dead hands" and other things that are seen poorly by the public and the antis
we need to try not to alienate those on the fence and just show support to the cause
not gonna do anything to change antis views

Please no hardware.  This is getting organized behind the scenes best we can - at this point it is truly still up to us, the people, to get it done.  Any recommendations for signs, volunteers or other ideas etc. please post them up.  Time is of the essence. 
hnl.flyboy and whynow? please check PM  :)

hnl.flyboy

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2013, 08:06:11 AM »
I know where you're going with this and why, but you should probably leave the mags at home (definitely not bring ANY ammo [HRS §134-27]). While it's a nice thing you're trying to do, getting tossed in the clink for having a standard capacity mag would be bad for the statement being made.  :thumbsup:

DEFINITELY!  I didn't plan on actually bringing it to the Capitol building.  Sorry.  ;D

yeah, the original facebook posts point out that people should avoid wearing camo (and might i add all black and web gear/vests)
and try not to wear shirts (or say) "cold dead hands" and other things that are seen poorly by the public and the antis
we need to try not to alienate those on the fence and just show support to the cause
not gonna do anything to change antis views


I plan on wearing the nicest I can find in my closet.  I thought about an empty holster, but that wouldn't really do anything for the cause...yet.

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ANYONE WITH ANY EXPERIENCE WITH GETTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, PLEASE CONTACT ME!!  TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE!
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bass monkey

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2013, 08:37:34 AM »
For a sign, i got a suggestion.
"shall not be infringed."

People that are familiar will recognize it right away.  Might get others curious and look into it.
Subtle and gets the point across.  Not to direct.  Might be to indirect though.

hnl.flyboy

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2013, 08:40:28 AM »
For a sign, i got a suggestion.
"shall not be infringed."

People that are familiar will recognize it right away.  Might get others curious and look into it.
Subtle and gets the point across.  Not to direct.  Might be to indirect though.

Four words...Easily placed in 3 lines.  Brilliant.  I think I might do that instead..
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2013, 09:14:51 AM »
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DuckFat

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2013, 09:32:19 AM »
yeah, the original facebook posts point out that people should avoid wearing camo (and might i add all black and web gear/vests)
and try not to wear shirts (or say) "cold dead hands" and other things that are seen poorly by the public and the antis
we need to try not to alienate those on the fence and just show support to the cause
not gonna do anything to change antis views
So wear a Barry campaign shirt and really confuse em
What if rhinos are just fat unicorns?

drck1000

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2013, 09:36:48 AM »
I live a few blocks away (well, LONG blocks), but I plan on being there Saturday!   :thumbsup:

bass monkey

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2013, 09:47:03 AM »
i also suggest we wear the same clothing so we look uniform.

Ill be there for sure.  What else needs to be done?  Any areas need help?

Oh ill also make a sign. Possibly more, gotta check my supplies.

hnl.flyboy

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #74 on: January 11, 2013, 09:56:56 AM »
FINDINGS:

I received an e-mail regarding the special use permit.  We must have "...general liability of no less than $500,000 per occurrence and $1 million in the aggregate."

Anyone know how we can find such insurance on short notice?

Any organizations that can help us out?  HRA, HDF, LIFE??

ETA:  Contacted my local Training Counsellor, and I'll see if I can get NRA insurance via Lockton.  Will keep you guys updated.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2013, 10:03:26 AM by hnl.flyboy »
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ImKu

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #75 on: January 11, 2013, 09:59:44 AM »
Is there someone "leading" this event?  Has any of the local groups or LGS's showed any interest in participating?  Is there a head count of how many plan to be involved?  Looking at the amount of people that have read this post (over 900) We should have a decent amount of support.  I know everyone has busy schedules, as do I, but I do think this is important and we need to (as the 2a community) show some numbers.  Can someone who is part of organizing this pm me? 
The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it.
- Bhagavad Gita

hnl.flyboy

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #76 on: January 11, 2013, 10:04:21 AM »
Is there someone "leading" this event?  Has any of the local groups or LGS's showed any interest in participating?  Is there a head count of how many plan to be involved?  Looking at the amount of people that have read this post (over 900) We should have a decent amount of support.  I know everyone has busy schedules, as do I, but I do think this is important and we need to (as the 2a community) show some numbers.  Can someone who is part of organizing this pm me?

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hnl.flyboy

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2013, 10:21:33 AM »
UPDATE: Lockton Risk, the insurance company the NRA goes through, said it was too short of an event for them to insure.  I'll be looking for another company, but if ANYONE has ANY suggestions PERTAINING TO GETTING THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT, text me at 808-597-7367.

If you're asking for details or don't have suggestions that I can act on quickly, please PM me instead.  I'll be editing my number out of this post when I feel it's appropriate, but as of right now, time is of the essence..
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hnl.flyboy

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2013, 10:41:11 AM »
Oh joy..

I called an insurance agent from Island Insurance, and she stated that for events such as weddings, where they expect 25 people to show up at a beach and attend the ceremony, it would cost a couple hundred dollars.

In such an event like this where I don't really have control over the situation, especially if we're holding up signs and waving at traffic, she said it will easily go up into the thousands of dollars.  I expected to pony up my own money, but I won't be able to afford that.  Island Insurance said no one on island will be able to underwrite it, and it will have to be someone on the mainland.  Also, they will want to know exactly what signs will be waved and exactly what we want made known, among other things.  I'm waiting for another email from the insurance agent, but it's not looking good special-use-permit-wise...
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duchi

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2013, 11:00:16 AM »
Oh joy..

I called an insurance agent from Island Insurance, and she stated that for events such as weddings, where they expect 25 people to show up at a beach and attend the ceremony, it would cost a couple hundred dollars.

In such an event like this where I don't really have control over the situation, especially if we're holding up signs and waving at traffic, she said it will easily go up into the thousands of dollars.  I expected to pony up my own money, but I won't be able to afford that.  Island Insurance said no one on island will be able to underwrite it, and it will have to be someone on the mainland.  Also, they will want to know exactly what signs will be waved and exactly what we want made known, among other things.  I'm waiting for another email from the insurance agent, but it's not looking good special-use-permit-wise...

First off, thank you so very much for all the efforts you and the others have put forth. 
The attention to the details of having a successful event that you and others have brought up are amazing.

There's a group meeting tonight to discuss details of leadership etc.  The results will be shared asap.

Also, has anyone heard from any of the local pro2A organizations like LIFE and HRA?  Or the position on any of the representatives on this event?
We truly need all the support from the entire island and outer islands we can get.  This is super important if you enjoy your firearms(and ammo, and mags, and other neat stuff) and the ability to defend your rights.

What about the mention of taking up a collection for some of the expenses? 

We have one full week but less if you consider business days. 

Any other helpful suggestions or volunteers?
« Last Edit: January 11, 2013, 11:25:04 AM by duchi »