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January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there. (Read 159132 times)

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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2013, 11:14:05 AM »
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2013, 11:16:02 AM »
Is there someone "leading" this event?  Has any of the local groups or LGS's showed any interest in participating?  Is there a head count of how many plan to be involved?  Looking at the amount of people that have read this post (over 900) We should have a decent amount of support.  I know everyone has busy schedules, as do I, but I do think this is important and we need to (as the 2a community) show some numbers.  Can someone who is part of organizing this pm me? 

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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2013, 11:19:27 AM »
Also, has anyone heard from any of the local pro2A organizations like LIFE and HRA?  Or the position on any of the representatives on this event?
We truly need all the support from the entire island and outer islands we can get.  This is super important if you enjoy your firearms(and ammo, and mags, and other neat stuff) and the ability to defend your rights.

I contacted LIFE / HRA.  She was very helpful, however, her leads didn't work out.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2013, 11:31:50 AM by hnl.flyboy »
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #83 on: January 11, 2013, 11:23:02 AM »
From the Instructions for Special Use Permit (CSD-SUP Form 1):

"Applications for Special Use Permits, together with all required insurance certificates, must be received ten (10) working days prior to the date of the planned event or activity to allow for adequate time for processing and approval."


Thank you very much for looking into that.
Does anyone know how groups just "form" and congregate for events such as protests in a short time?
Does this mean that either we stand on the sidewalk as someone previously suggested, or that we have a peaceful event on the property anyway, so that the press can document the event and the authorities kick us out when they've seen enough?
Either way, we need local media to add us to the Nation wide media coverage as we're the last time zone.

btw, anyone have ties to local press?  or maybe they'll just show up?  maybe they shouldn't know about our intentions until that day so that the property cannot be roped off?

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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #84 on: January 11, 2013, 11:33:09 AM »
Insurance cert, crazy.  So how does "just a group of people" just show up to exercise their First Amendment and still "comply" with all the rules!   We're learning some hard civic lessons here.  Good.  Underscores the struggle so many others have faced and how/why so many others just fell off.  This will be a *peaceful* civil act for those who show up and I hope to see you all there Jan. 19! 

Let's stay coordinated  O0  <-- haha yellow smiley afro dude can dance good and that takes coordination!
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #85 on: January 11, 2013, 11:33:41 AM »

Thank you very much for looking into that.
Does anyone know how groups just "form" and congregate for events such as protests in a short time?
Does this mean that either we stand on the sidewalk as someone previously suggested, or that we have a peaceful event on the property anyway, so that the press can document the event and the authorities kick us out when they've seen enough?
Either way, we need local media to add us to the Nation wide media coverage as we're the last time zone.

btw, anyone have ties to local press?  or maybe they'll just show up?  maybe they shouldn't know about our intentions until that day so that the property cannot be roped off?

If they want to rope off the entire Capitol building, they're gonna need a LOT of rope...
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #86 on: January 11, 2013, 11:39:23 AM »
I sent generic info to some reporter contacts on FB

hnl.flyboy - thanks - you are kicking some okole on this!
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #87 on: January 11, 2013, 11:43:15 AM »
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January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #88 on: January 11, 2013, 12:24:26 PM »
Sorry guys. Today started off bad for me and frustrations mounted. I'll be on a pre-planned range for a little bit relaxing. I'll see the other organizers tonight.
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #89 on: January 11, 2013, 12:29:49 PM »
I wonder if the Occupukes had to apply for a permit for their "protests." Anyways, I'm in. If it's on a Saturday, I can make it.

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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #90 on: January 11, 2013, 01:05:31 PM »
I wonder if the Occupukes had to apply for a permit for their "protests." Anyways, I'm in. If it's on a Saturday, I can make it.

Thank you in advance for your support!!   And please spread the word to friends and family!!

Here's something of a positive note from the wsj of all sources:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324081704578234010962821032.html

This is why we need to keep up the pressure with events such as the one proposed and let our representatives know where we stand on our rights which are very broad and does not include things like specific exclusions as the executive branch proposes.

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January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #91 on: January 11, 2013, 04:34:46 PM »
Thank you all for organizing. Saw this article and thought its very relevant.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/01/how-to-end-the-gun-debate-forever-2534308.html
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #92 on: January 11, 2013, 05:13:09 PM »
Great updates.  As usual "lucky we live Hawaii" as the Million Moms prepare to do battle with the Gun Appreciation Day'rs on the mainland, though it would not surprise me to possibly have counter - negative voices present with us as well.  I respect their right to free speech as they should ours. 

There's probably just as many Moms with Arms who will be making their voices heard too.
For example: http://www.moms4guns.com/moms--guns.html

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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #93 on: January 11, 2013, 11:43:34 PM »
Count me in.  You guys think its a good idea to rock the Gadsden flag?

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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #94 on: January 12, 2013, 12:04:06 AM »
imo, gadsen and molon labe play into the anti view of gun owners
better to be seen as regular members of the community
but it is a free country, and the first amendment protects all forms of speech (so far), so do what you want

Count me in.  You guys think its a good idea to rock the Gadsden flag?

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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #95 on: January 12, 2013, 01:24:19 AM »
"The Constitution is outdated."

Bulla shitta.

It's more relevant nowadays than ever before.
I do believe that the radical and crazy notion that the Founders meant what they said, is gradually soaking through the judicial system.

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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #96 on: January 12, 2013, 02:01:05 AM »
As I have said, there are exemptions for everything, including spontaneous protest.
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #97 on: January 12, 2013, 06:34:14 AM »
As I have said, there are exemptions for everything, including spontaneous protest.
Anyone is free to assemble/gather without a permit or insurance. It's public property, the worst they can do is say some bull about "normal operating hours" and make everyone stand on the sidewalk.

A permit would only be required if a group intended to use the property for an event.
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. ~Thomas Paine


And I still see stupid people.

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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #98 on: January 12, 2013, 08:25:09 AM »
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #99 on: January 12, 2013, 10:55:01 AM »
That's my thinking as well and we kind of mulled that over last night too.   Definitely spontaneous is how this all started, there is not even one unifying organizing group, just an open call to like minded citizens throughout the country.  We have no control over who may show up or what they do.  As far as permits go does that mean acceptance of risk, that is why I said in less colorful terms originally, - badges, we don need no stinkin badges! - and stand on the sidewalk if need be.  If the state and/or local police don't have a clue by now this is going to happen, then they're as bad as hanabutta' was just on tv admitting she didn't even see the video.  doh.

I wake up this morning as upset over this as yesterday.  I'm going to protest about keeping my Second Amendment rights not being infringed upon while at the same time already infringed and disarmed!?!   Our individual right to keep and bear does not end at the front door, nor at the top of a mag limiter block. 

and - Brad!  Sorry we missed each other.  Yes was the SB in Aiea not Pearlridge.  That's my home number and why didn't call you back since didn't hear the message till too late.  E kala mai! 
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