bonus 'murica! shot

 

It is a trip on how many Hawaii gun owners do not know about this forum.
Spread the word folks about the forum and the event!

You know what is scary to me,,,
is that so many guys are pissed, but scared to voice an opinion in public because they are scared for their family, or whatever,,,
If we are scared of the government if you are speaking your mind and not going along like a good little sheep you need to especially be thinking about your 2A rights,,,
if 1A isnt an option because your scared of getting put on some list, your battle is already lost and you might as well sell your guns to someone who will maybe use them for what they were intended....

You know what is scary to me,,,
is that so many guys are pissed, but scared to voice an opinion in public because they are scared for their family, or whatever,,,
If we are scared of the government if you are speaking your mind and not going along like a good little sheep you need to especially be thinking about your 2A rights,,,
if 1A isnt an option because your scared of getting put on some list, your battle is already lost and you might as well sell your guns to someone who will maybe use them for what they were intended....

well put,   its time to step up. 

Where do we park for this march?

I have sworn twice as a US Army officer to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against
 all enemies foreign and domestic.  This Constitution was written to once and for all protect good people from all tyrannical forms of government.  The following quotes confirm that our Founding Fathers understood tyranny.....

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and the keystone under independence...The rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable...The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that is good.". George Washington

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms..disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist in 1764. That was 230 years ago. -Thomas Jefferson

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson

With liberty and justice for all.............

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.-Thomas Jeffersonj

theres metered parking around the capital and there are a few parking garages on alakea st, and bishop street.   

Has there been any update in the thread about the meeting that happened with the organizers?
Is the plan show up with a sign and wave to cars?
Anything else that needs to be done?

RE: PARKING

Might want to check this place out.

Alii Place on the Makai corner of Alakea and Hotel. Entrance on Alakea.
Rates comparable to County Municipals on weekdays. Reportedly might have $3 flat rate on weekends, but I've never parked there on a weekend so I can't verify.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/alii-place-honolulu

RE: PARKING

Might want to check this place out.

Alii Place on the Makai corner of Alakea and Hotel. Entrance on Alakea.
Rates comparable to County Municipals on weekdays. Reportedly might have $3 flat rate on weekends, but I've never parked there on a weekend so I can't verify.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/alii-place-honolulu

Almost every building in downtown has flat rate parking of about $5 after 5pm on weekdays and all day on weekends/holidays. I work in downtown and used to ride a motorcycle which parks free at Ali'i Place (the building with Hawaii State FCU, right next to Mandalay).

Has there been any update in the thread about the meeting that happened with the organizers?
Is the plan show up with a sign and wave to cars?
Anything else that needs to be done?

It seems that there are at least 2 groups which are currently being combined to create this event.
At the moment, its a grassroots movement with only the donation of a few people to purchase materials for signs and any printing costs.
It was mentioned that just having the American flag would send a strong message as it is symbolic of the very core our Nation was founded upon, which is our Constitutional rights.
People may get carried away with the sign content and that would send the wrong message at this important juncture.
The idea is to send a message that over 99% of firearms owners are good law abiding people and not to fall into the sterotypical gun nut that anti-gun supporters think we are.

So camo clothing and other tactical gear, empty holsters, yelling and screaming random thoughts to passing cars, signs with firearms silhouettes and other overly extreme pro 2A statements(ahem, Aiea78), etc etc is not appropriate.
This will be a quiet, peaceful gathering to show our overwhelming support of 2A and that nothing should be changed to further prohibit the good guys from what our Founding Fathers originally meant; which is not subject to interpretation nor modification.

We will stay off the lawn(since we may not have a permit to gather), have an orderly gathering, and clean up after we're done so that nobody can say anything remotely negative about what had transpired.   So no one will be arrested for any type of civil disobedience or similar.  There simply will be no reason.

A mass gathering to show our support of 2A along with the rest of the Nation on the very same day.  Simple.

Where do we park for this march?

It looks like a rather large group has begun to form so please expect to arrive prior to noon so that you may find parking in the surrounding areas and be able to join us.
I plan to park somewhat away and bicycle in.
There's usually parking further down on Punchbowl as it's a Saturday, there won't be people parked for business.
I believe that this is an important enough event to pony up the $5 or so dollars for parking that a previous member posted.
Others' may borrow the kid's razor scooter or skateboard?  or just walk. 
Please make sure to bring some refreshments as it may be a warm day.
Sun block as well.
An umbrella in case it's a rainy day.
Don't forget your American flag if you have one!!

Angry cat is a Second Amendment supporter! 

My offer still stands as point person to collect donations via paypal (mark as gift, sender bears fees) for materials.  I will front our 2AHi group whatever cash we need for at least 50 signs now if needed.  I can pick up and drop at the site since you'll be on bike.  (great idea to bike in btw).  And whatever slogan or graphic we come up with is what I will hold in my hands, if not a flag. 

I have not given up any fight, far from it.  Just a little surprised our email went unanswered but then again they probably received 10s of thousands.  So it's up to the entire group to make this a success!

Word is definitely spreading.  We plan on being there at least until 2pm for those that are wondering.  That leaves plenty time to continue ransacking gun shops afterwards

hey hey
ho ho
gun free zones have got to go

right of the people
to keep and bear arms
right of the people
to keep and bear arms

difi wants your guns
let's stick them in... ah better not use this one eh.

well put,   its time to step up. 

You know what is scary to me,,,
is that so many guys are pissed, but scared to voice an opinion in public because they are scared for their family, or whatever,,,
If we are scared of the government if you are speaking your mind and not going along like a good little sheep you need to especially be thinking about your 2A rights,,,
if 1A isnt an option because your scared of getting put on some list, your battle is already lost and you might as well sell your guns to someone who will maybe use them for what they were intended....

Yep.  We are all on at least two lists already (one state, one federal) by virtue of registration.  The worst thing that can happen is registration=confiscation.  So time to speak up for your rights!  Exercising the First to support the Second while protected by the Fourth - they are all intertwined.

the empty holster has been used for a long time and really underscores our plight but may get one arrested for terroristic threatening or some other trumped up nebulous charge.  back in the 80s my neighbor used to walk around with a screwdriver in a cowboy holster to try to show that guns were just tools.  the police would end up driving him home each time. 

as you said, we will be the last state in the nation rallying and closing down the event.  best foot forward with Aloha