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January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there. (Read 159155 times)

AmbuBadger

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #240 on: January 17, 2013, 05:59:16 PM »
My girlfriend and I will be there for a little while, then she has karate practice. I suppose even in light of recent events, we won't be seeing a call for a truck ban because they are capable of causing so much damage in the wrong hands, and are more powerful than what the police are equipped with?

One of the guys at work asked why I felt the need to own an "assault rifle". I told him that my girlfriend and I are a foot difference in height, and she's a lefty while I am right-handed. The AR15 is the only rifle we have that both of us can safely and easily operate to protect ourselves. I also told him that if more than one person was trying to assault her while I'm at work, the rifle would do her better than a cellphone or tiny can of pepper spray. Too many people have that "It's never going to happen to me" mentality. Sad to say, crime will have to get real bad before that opinion changes...

Other things to tell people:
-Living in a secured apartment or gated neighborhood will mean that the police will have to go through the same obstacles to get to your door.
-Having a gun and knowing how to use it to protect your family is no different than taking a CPR class and keeping a fire extinguisher in your home.
-When people talk about how many deaths occur daily from guns, ask if their source takes into account violent felons shot by the police or potential rapists/murderers stopped by law-abiding citizens.
-When your wife or daughter is about to be assaulted and you're not there, do you have faith that their iPhone is a deterrent/crime stopper?
-When they describe a perfect world where only the police have guns and they're everywhere to stop crime before it starts, ask if they're referring to North Korea.

I was taking disaster planning and emergency management as part of a Bachelor's course at UH West; a disaster recovery class taught me that after an event, the Government's priority isn't to save people or defend the Constitution, it is to ensure that our form of government continues; everything and everyone else is secondary. Perhaps this is why Obama OK'd Homeland Security to procure so much ammo-- if "The Big One" ever hit and government was facing the same backlash that Bush did after Katrina-- but on a national scale-- Obama and his constituants would be outgunned. Even those 11 million illegals he's groveling to might turn on him once the food stamps run out...

See you guys Saturday.

ren

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #241 on: January 17, 2013, 06:01:08 PM »
Parking suggestions?
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #242 on: January 18, 2013, 12:32:38 AM »
Go early?  Or park far and walk/scoot/bike/bus in.  There's a parking map earlier in the thread.  We'll be there for awhile too so no worries about missing the boat :)

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whynow?

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #243 on: January 18, 2013, 02:38:54 PM »
Just finished my homemade sign.
states:  "SUPPORT
              2ND AMENDMENT
              HAWAII"
 Hope that the friends I called show up.

zippz

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #244 on: January 18, 2013, 04:10:13 PM »
I upgraded the signs at koko head today and passed out some flyers.  Should add a few more to tomorrows count.

I'll also bring a few signs tomorrow to handout if you need one.

CindyRichelle

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #245 on: January 18, 2013, 04:32:29 PM »
Aloha, a friendly reminder for tomorrow:
1. Wear clothing that you would wear to work, a business meeting, church, or a school play. We want to show the diversity of gun owners. :)

2. Hydrate and bring water.

3. Please make sure to "spell check" your signs, and try to keep them family friendly.

4. Remember we are walking billboards for gun owners and gun rights.

5. Please bring your cameras and video cameras. We will have a central site to upload photos and video for those who missed the rally.

6. If you encounter people with opposing views, please do not engage with them. They may want you to engage, and may want to show we are hot tempered. Don't give them ammunition to use against us in the court of public opinion.

7. Let's have fun and make new friends!

:)
"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution." - Thomas Jefferson

ImKu

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #246 on: January 18, 2013, 05:54:14 PM »
I don't usually do this.... But, if anyone lives near the Salt Lake, or Pearl Harbor area PM me if you would like a ride to the State Capital.  I can accommodate up to 3 people comfortably.  All I ask is that you bring a positive attitude.  :thumbsup:  Let me know via PM.
The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it.
- Bhagavad Gita

Boomah

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #247 on: January 18, 2013, 06:01:22 PM »
I'm in!  :thumbsup:

Cya'll tomorrow  :shaka:

Boomah

HiCarry

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #248 on: January 18, 2013, 06:17:54 PM »
I and other LIFE instructors will be there.

I'd like to throw something out there for your consideration: We are facing one of the most extensive anti-gun legislative session in recent history. We, as gun owners will need to prepare and organize for the upcoming fight. I'd like to take advantage of this opportunity to suggest that tomorrow we try to (and I hate this word...) network with each other with the intent of creating a working coalition of gun owners. This is not an attempt to get you to join any one organization, although I personally think it would be a good idea, but rather to get to know each other, to strategize, and to help eliminate any of the infighting or bickering that may ultimately reduce our effectiveness. I would further suggest that we also try to meet on a more formalized basis, soon, to hammer out any differences and solidify our positions.

If you are willing, I will help facilitate such a meeting and secure a meeting place. What does everyone think?

Thanks!

Jl808

January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #249 on: January 18, 2013, 06:52:25 PM »
Can we sign something collectively tomorrow and send it in to the legislators ad committee members dealing with the bills?
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ImKu

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #250 on: January 18, 2013, 06:58:29 PM »
Does anyone have 2 extra signs for me and a friend to use?  We just found out today that we will be able to attend. Lmk  Mahaloz   :shaka:
The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it.
- Bhagavad Gita

mln41

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #251 on: January 18, 2013, 07:11:13 PM »
fyi-  hannity has a real good show on right now,  has nra speaker, and a lady competition shooter coming up  its on fox right now. 
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Psalm 23:4
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

CindyRichelle

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #252 on: January 18, 2013, 07:17:21 PM »
Yes we have a petition we have for Hawaii Senators and Representatives:

Aloha Mazie Hirono, Brian Schatz, Colleen Hanbusa and Tulsi Gabbard,We are law abiding citizens who support the 2nd amendment of the United States Constitution. In response to the President’s plan to reduce gun violence we affirm the following:
1. The United States of America has over 20,000 existing gun laws now, we reject creating any new laws that would restrict rights of gun owners they currently are afforded. Please enforce the ones we have on the books now.2. We reject any bans on high capacity magazines, rifles, shotguns, or handguns for law abiding citizens. 3. Gun Free Zones are Target Rich Environments; we promote a common sense plan on protecting our school children. A law and a Gun Free Zone sign will not prevent a criminal or mentally ill person from carrying a gun on a school campus. Our children deserve to be protected by well qualified and trained personnel. Safety plans should be implemented in every school, and drills should be held as often as fire or tornado drills.4. Doctors and health care professionals should not be reporting agents to the federal government as to who owns a firearm.5. We do not support a national registry of gun owners of any kind. After witnessing how law abiding gun owners were treated in New York State by a news agency, we are concerned that any type of registry would violate citizens’ privacy and that a registry could be used for other purposes, such as confiscation, down the road.
We respectfully request that you uphold your oath of office and the Constitution of the United State of America. We are voters, and we are watching.
Sincerely,
We The People of Hawaii

Also we we have materials for extra signs if someone needs them.  We also will be passing out flyers (I attached it and we had 300 printed).  My phone number is 219-809-1392 if you need help, you can text or call me :)
"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution." - Thomas Jefferson

mln41

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #253 on: January 18, 2013, 07:20:16 PM »
I and other LIFE instructors will be there.

I'd like to throw something out there for your consideration: We are facing one of the most extensive anti-gun legislative session in recent history. We, as gun owners will need to prepare and organize for the upcoming fight. I'd like to take advantage of this opportunity to suggest that tomorrow we try to (and I hate this word...) network with each other with the intent of creating a working coalition of gun owners. This is not an attempt to get you to join any one organization, although I personally think it would be a good idea, but rather to get to know each other, to strategize, and to help eliminate any of the infighting or bickering that may ultimately reduce our effectiveness. I would further suggest that we also try to meet on a more formalized basis, soon, to hammer out any differences and solidify our positions.

If you are willing, I will help facilitate such a meeting and secure a meeting place. What does everyone think?

Thanks!

I'm in.  let me know what time and where.   I will help you with the facilitating if needed.     
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Psalm 23:4
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

mln41

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #254 on: January 18, 2013, 07:25:10 PM »
I and other LIFE instructors will be there.

I'd like to throw something out there for your consideration: We are facing one of the most extensive anti-gun legislative session in recent history. We, as gun owners will need to prepare and organize for the upcoming fight. I'd like to take advantage of this opportunity to suggest that tomorrow we try to (and I hate this word...) network with each other with the intent of creating a working coalition of gun owners. This is not an attempt to get you to join any one organization, although I personally think it would be a good idea, but rather to get to know each other, to strategize, and to help eliminate any of the infighting or bickering that may ultimately reduce our effectiveness. I would further suggest that we also try to meet on a more formalized basis, soon, to hammer out any differences and solidify our positions.

If you are willing, I will help facilitate such a meeting and secure a meeting place. What does everyone think?

Thanks!

I would recommend we start meeting soon,  monday after work maybe?
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Psalm 23:4
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

CindyRichelle

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #255 on: January 18, 2013, 07:26:04 PM »
I and other LIFE instructors will be there.

I'd like to throw something out there for your consideration: We are facing one of the most extensive anti-gun legislative session in recent history. We, as gun owners will need to prepare and organize for the upcoming fight. I'd like to take advantage of this opportunity to suggest that tomorrow we try to (and I hate this word...) network with each other with the intent of creating a working coalition of gun owners. This is not an attempt to get you to join any one organization, although I personally think it would be a good idea, but rather to get to know each other, to strategize, and to help eliminate any of the infighting or bickering that may ultimately reduce our effectiveness. I would further suggest that we also try to meet on a more formalized basis, soon, to hammer out any differences and solidify our positions.

If you are willing, I will help facilitate such a meeting and secure a meeting place. What does everyone think?

Thanks!

I am absolutely on board!
"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution." - Thomas Jefferson

mln41

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #256 on: January 18, 2013, 07:29:15 PM »
I am absolutely on board!

Cindy  -  are you passing this flyer out to the public tomorrow?
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) Psalm 23:4
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #257 on: January 18, 2013, 07:30:34 PM »
Some of us that met up in the beginning will be bringing signs and handouts for others so no huhu we got you covered.  (kudos Duchi, HNL.flyboy & mln41!)  They might not be professional but it is your presence that matters now.

HiCarry that is a great idea.  We even have initial funding for a warchest, sparse as it may be but this is just the beginning.

We will not go quietly into the night!
We will not vanish without a fight!
We're going to live on! We're going to survive!  Tomorrow, we celebrate our Independence Day!
:D  :D  :D  :D  :D
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CindyRichelle

Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #258 on: January 18, 2013, 07:32:15 PM »
Cindy  -  are you passing this flyer out to the public tomorrow?

To attendees


Why is something wrong with it? we have the permit and we wanted to be able to pass the permit provisions out.
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Re: January 19th, 2013 noon, Hawaii local time, State Capital, I'll be there.
« Reply #259 on: January 18, 2013, 07:34:26 PM »
Great flyer CindyRichelle!
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