Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor (Read 1286 times)

changemyoil66

Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor
« on: August 05, 2025, 03:54:39 PM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/08/05/newly-released-demand-letter-former-police-chief-seeks-784k-citing-retaliation-emotional-distress/?fbclid=IwY2xjawL_km9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFibDkxdmpSb2ZjQ1ZyRmVFAR4JDE5m8aHkbNgPrZUMtZJXQI2KLfguNLdZukcfrXlTh_5eL9H0HueSGGbWzQ_aem_MfSIMlILJV2GxB_bYBbvug


Basically, Mayor Rick wanted to give HPD radio access to the media.  But often private information is given over these devices like social security numbers and date of birth.  It's also a federal violation.

Rick also wanted Joe to get rid of homeless in Chinatown and Waikiki and Logan said he cannot as a 9th Circuit ruling said they also had to provide an alternative place for them.

He's seeking $500K in loss wages plus $250K for lawyer fees, so $750K or so.  All due to whistleblower retaliation and that the mayor threatened him and his family.

Unrelated to this:

Logan years ago stated during city and county hearing of sensitive places that the ordinance would be difficult to enforce.  He was asked by Tupola what "appurtenant" means and he stated that didn't know.  This is understandable as it's not a commonly used word.  The reason why she was asking is some CCW bans also bans appurtenant places of specific places.  But at no time did Logan state that such ordinance was unconstitutional and that HPD wont' enforce it.

During 1 of the hearings, 1 officer decided to approach a testifier who was carrying a rifle case.  There is no probable cause to searching this individual or detain them.  Logan approached and ended it and the individual was free to go.

Logan also had an interaction with a person who was holstering an object inside a sock.  So the object wasn't visible, but it fit inside a holster.  At no time did Logan ask about it or search the individual.


During other state anti 2a  hearings, HPD didn't submit any testimony.  Like the most recent semi auto rifle, rifle mag, and semi auto shotgun ban.  Where prior, they have submitted to support such bans.

So I'm not a fan of Logan as he never stepped up and said he won't enforce unconstitutional laws, but he is better than Ballard or Kealoha.

Funny how HI people call out Trump for acting like a dictator/bully, but silent on Rick.  Lets not forget when Rick was eating dinner and violating covid rules.  Then when called out on camera as he was walking back to his car, he wanted to fight the cameraman.

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QUIETShooter

Re: Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2025, 04:54:08 PM »
In what ways did the mayor threaten Logan and his family.

This is not the first time I've read about this but no one seems able or willing to elaborate.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2025, 05:05:44 PM »
It's not a federal violation to share radio frequencies with the media.

If anything it's a federal violation for police to be using social security numbers if they aren't enforcing laws related to social security.

The cops just want to defend their big blue wall of bull chips, otherwise known as a police state.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2025, 05:47:44 PM by hvybarrels »
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zippz

Re: Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2025, 05:41:36 PM »
In what ways did the mayor threaten Logan and his family.

This is not the first time I've read about this but no one seems able or willing to elaborate.

The threat allegations are listed in the lawsuit

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/joe-logan-lawsuit.pdf

QUIETShooter

Re: Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2025, 08:31:49 PM »
The threat allegations are listed in the lawsuit

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/joe-logan-lawsuit.pdf

Thank you. :shaka:

In my opinion we have a mayor that came out of a hole where the sun don't shine.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2025, 08:49:51 PM »
Thank you. :shaka:

In my opinion we have a mayor that came out of a hole where the sun don't shine.
This is the result of someone who's spent so much of their life being the top dog in business organizations where what they say goes.

Then they get into government and realize the whole thing is a machine that's designed to continue running no matter who's in the driver's seat.

The icing on the cake is Hawaii allows government workers to unionize.  So, those unions that threw thousands of votes your way are going to later be negotiating with you for better contacts including wages, benefits, hiring and firing practices, etc.  One of the biggest conflicts of interest ever conceived -- you help get me elected, and I'll negotiate on behalf of the state when your contract comes up.   :crazy:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2025, 09:59:24 PM »
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/08/05/newly-released-demand-letter-former-police-chief-seeks-784k-citing-retaliation-emotional-distress/?fbclid=IwY2xjawL_km9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFibDkxdmpSb2ZjQ1ZyRmVFAR4JDE5m8aHkbNgPrZUMtZJXQI2KLfguNLdZukcfrXlTh_5eL9H0HueSGGbWzQ_aem_MfSIMlILJV2GxB_bYBbvug


Basically, Mayor Rick wanted to give HPD radio access to the media.  But often private information is given over these devices like social security numbers and date of birth.  It's also a federal violation.

Rick also wanted Joe to get rid of homeless in Chinatown and Waikiki and Logan said he cannot as a 9th Circuit ruling said they also had to provide an alternative place for them.

He's seeking $500K in loss wages plus $250K for lawyer fees, so $750K or so.  All due to whistleblower retaliation and that the mayor threatened him and his family.

Unrelated to this:

Logan years ago stated during city and county hearing of sensitive places that the ordinance would be difficult to enforce.  He was asked by Tupola what "appurtenant" means and he stated that didn't know.  This is understandable as it's not a commonly used word.  The reason why she was asking is some CCW bans also bans appurtenant places of specific places.  But at no time did Logan state that such ordinance was unconstitutional and that HPD wont' enforce it.

During 1 of the hearings, 1 officer decided to approach a testifier who was carrying a rifle case.  There is no probable cause to searching this individual or detain them.  Logan approached and ended it and the individual was free to go.

Logan also had an interaction with a person who was holstering an object inside a sock.  So the object wasn't visible, but it fit inside a holster.  At no time did Logan ask about it or search the individual.


During other state anti 2a  hearings, HPD didn't submit any testimony.  Like the most recent semi auto rifle, rifle mag, and semi auto shotgun ban.  Where prior, they have submitted to support such bans.

So I'm not a fan of Logan as he never stepped up and said he won't enforce unconstitutional laws, but he is better than Ballard or Kealoha.

Funny how HI people call out Trump for acting like a dictator/bully, but silent on Rick.  Lets not forget when Rick was eating dinner and violating covid rules.  Then when called out on camera as he was walking back to his car, he wanted to fight the cameraman.

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The media used to have access to the radios, I wonder what changed? Maybe that was before encryption?

hvybarrels

Re: Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2025, 12:27:38 AM »
The media used to have access to the radios, I wonder what changed? Maybe that was before encryption?

At some point the state government became a criminal organization and they have a vested interest in preventing the rest of us from finding out how bad things are.

The first thing the media would notice is that the official crime statistics are a sick joke. Then it would become apparent certain people get special treatment while others are brushed aside.

All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/05/hpd-admits-it-withheld-arrest-info-about-new-police-chiefs-son/
« Last Edit: August 06, 2025, 12:32:44 AM by hvybarrels »
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changemyoil66

Re: Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2025, 09:54:08 AM »
The media used to have access to the radios, I wonder what changed? Maybe that was before encryption?

It was before encryption so one went to radio shack to buy a radio/scanner. Think Die Hard when the reporter was listening to the radio calls.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2025, 12:53:13 PM »
At some point the state government became a criminal organization and they have a vested interest in preventing the rest of us from finding out how bad things are.

The first thing the media would notice is that the official crime statistics are a sick joke. Then it would become apparent certain people get special treatment while others are brushed aside.

All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/05/hpd-admits-it-withheld-arrest-info-about-new-police-chiefs-son/

Encryption has its benefits and drawbacks. 

oldfart

Re: Ex-Chief Logan Suing the city and Mayor
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2025, 01:13:25 PM »
It was before encryption so one went to radio shack to buy a radio/scanner. Think Die Hard when the reporter was listening to the radio calls.
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I used to listen to police chatter before they went digital. It wasn't a big deal. News organizations (paper, tv) used to listen. It was fine. Mayor Rick was in the TV business for decades. That's why he thought it would be fine also.
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