You sunk my drug boat! (Read 9207 times)

eyeeatingfish

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2025, 08:42:20 PM »
so stupid. Its like people trying to tell me how to make a Big Mac without ever working at a McDonalds or visited one. Especially one person who is just speculating how everything is "supposed" to work and arguing with everyone else.

No speculation needed, there are plenty of videos of the coast guard doing this type of interdiction. I can find them for you if your youtube search function isn't working.

Maybe its just that the Navy doesn't have some specialized soldiers capable of such a task.

Plus you are avoiding the biggest issue here, since when do we kill people for being part of the drug trade? Sure, we kill people trying to kill us (terrorists, foreign military, etc.) but when do we decide we can take the life of someone bringing in a product Americans are wanting to buy?
« Last Edit: September 23, 2025, 08:51:39 PM by eyeeatingfish »

eyeeatingfish

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2025, 08:44:07 PM »
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=57312.msg506585#msg506585

Maybe you should read the post you link to better... I only indicated proper training if they are tasked with a law enforcement role.

eyeeatingfish

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2025, 08:45:39 PM »
Ur post said US ships can ONLY board a vessel for the following....

Whethee the captain of said ship allows them or not is irrelevant.

Thanks for playing.

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Talking about a forcible/non-consensual boarding.

I figured that was obvious unless you seriously though I was saying it was illegal for a soldier to go onto another boat if invited. I guess I will spell it out for you next time better.

eyeeatingfish

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #63 on: September 23, 2025, 08:46:15 PM »
Wrong. Hahahhaha

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ren

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #64 on: September 23, 2025, 08:55:39 PM »
No speculation needed, there are plenty of videos of the coast guard doing this type of interdiction. I can find them for you if your youtube search function isn't working.

Maybe its just that the Navy doesn't have some specialized soldiers capable of such a task.

Plus you are avoiding the biggest issue here, since when do we kill people for being part of the drug trade? Sure, we kill people trying to kill us (terrorists, foreign military, etc.) but when do we decide we can take the life of someone bringing in a product Americans are wanting to buy?

where did I mention you?
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eyeeatingfish

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #65 on: September 23, 2025, 09:52:57 PM »

macsak

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2025, 05:36:59 AM »
please show me where you said "if"...

Maybe you should read the post you link to better... I only indicated proper training if they are tasked with a law enforcement role.

changemyoil66

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2025, 07:39:53 AM »
Talking about a forcible/non-consensual boarding.

I figured that was obvious unless you seriously though I was saying it was illegal for a soldier to go onto another boat if invited. I guess I will spell it out for you next time better.

No, you need to admit your quote was lacking information or wrong. Refer to my reply.

changemyoil66

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2025, 07:40:12 AM »
Can't admit you are wrong or even defend your position. Gotcha
 :stopjack:

No, you don't got it.

changemyoil66

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #69 on: September 24, 2025, 07:41:26 AM »
3rd strike and it was confirmed that all 3 happened in international waters.

I'll bet cartels will use human shields next since the left love to bash effective things that work.

changemyoil66

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #70 on: September 24, 2025, 07:44:54 AM »


Plus you are avoiding the biggest issue here, since when do we kill people for being part of the drug trade? Sure, we kill people trying to kill us (terrorists, foreign military, etc.) but when do we decide we can take the life of someone bringing in a product Americans are wanting to buy?

Since a few weeks ago.  Everything starts from somewhere.

You left out "products that Americans are wanting to buy illegally".

macsak

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2025, 08:29:43 AM »
hey 5-0, do you not arrest drug dealers because they are selling "a product Americans are wanting to buy"?

No speculation needed, there are plenty of videos of the coast guard doing this type of interdiction. I can find them for you if your youtube search function isn't working.

Maybe its just that the Navy doesn't have some specialized soldiers capable of such a task.

Plus you are avoiding the biggest issue here, since when do we kill people for being part of the drug trade? Sure, we kill people trying to kill us (terrorists, foreign military, etc.) but when do we decide we can take the life of someone bringing in a product Americans are wanting to buy?

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Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2025, 08:49:14 AM »
Man, I hope all those boats are already paid for …
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changemyoil66

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2025, 09:07:03 AM »
hey 5-0, do you not arrest drug dealers because they are selling "a product Americans are wanting to buy"?

He's gonna then say cops do (avoiding admitting he ever did arrest one), but they (police in general) don't execute them as he has used that example in this thread about cops executing drug dealers.  Which was comparing apples to oranges as LEO have different rules than the military does.  But lets wait and see when he comes back what he will say to weasel out of it.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2025, 10:14:41 AM »
He's gonna then say cops do (avoiding admitting he ever did arrest one), but they (police in general) don't execute them as he has used that example in this thread about cops executing drug dealers.  Which was comparing apples to oranges as LEO have different rules than the military does.  But lets wait and see when he comes back what he will say to weasel out of it.

Since this was in International waters, and the occupants of the boat are fleeing, and the boat's owners are designated terrorists, the normal tenants of US laws are not applicable.

You have to look up international maritime laws to know if the act is considered justified or not.  Like, if someone is trying to forcibly board your boat and doesn't identify themselves as any government's military or law enforcement agency, you don't have to wait until they shoot at you to use deadly force to repel them.
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changemyoil66

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #75 on: September 24, 2025, 11:44:59 AM »
I wonder if OP feels the same about the Bin laden raid?

We entered Pakistan w/o approval.  Some could see that as an invasion/act of war.

There was no knock on the door, so it was damaged as it was breached.  Holes in the wall from bullets, so even more property damage done.

Others in the compound were shot, unsure if they're AQ or not when the shooting took place.  How would you react if you had an AK and someone in the middle of the night attacked your home.  Esp in the dark where you cannot see.

We stole items from the home as no permission was given.

We left brass and 1 of our helicopters so that's littering.

No due process.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #76 on: September 24, 2025, 12:01:28 PM »
I wonder if OP feels the same about the Bin laden raid?

We entered Syria w/o approval.  Some could see that as an invasion/act of war.

There was no knock on the door, so it was damaged as it was breached.  Holes in the wall from bullets, so even more property damage done.

Others in the compound were shot, unsure if they're AQ or not when the shooting took place.  How would you react if you had an AK and someone in the middle of the night attacked your home.  Esp in the dark where you cannot see.

We stole items from the home as no permission was given.

We left brass and 1 of our helicopters so that's littering.

No due process.

This is fun.
Syria?

The compound that was raided and where bin Laden was killed is located in Pakistan.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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changemyoil66

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #77 on: September 24, 2025, 01:02:03 PM »
Syria?

The compound that was raided and where bin Laden was killed is located in Pakistan.

Thanks for catching that.

macsak

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #78 on: September 24, 2025, 01:22:03 PM »

eyeeatingfish

Re: You sunk my drug boat!
« Reply #79 on: September 25, 2025, 10:47:01 PM »
please show me where you said "if"...

I didn't use the word "if" but it was a conditional statement. It is inherent to the statement. If no guardsmen are tasked with that duty then it is a moot point, I don't need the word "if" to be in there.