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Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2025, 10:43:35 AM »
How the Left Programmed Young People to Hate
BY DAVID BETZ AND MICHAEL RAINSBOROUGH 16 SEPTEMBER 2025 11:45 AM


“Diversity’, ‘equity’ and ‘inclusion’ became less articles of faith than a set of tactics — no longer instruments of compromise but of humiliation, tools by which resentment was stoked and sustained. Generations of students have since been trained to denounce rather than to reason, to persecute rather than to persuade. This is Mao’s Red Guards reconstituted for a digital age: armies of accusation, armed less with AK-47s than with hashtags and HR manuals.

Those who dismiss the ‘culture wars’ as a distraction misunderstand the nature of conflict in our time. The sociologist James Davison Hunter, who coined the phrase three decades ago, cautioned that when disputes cease to be arguments within a shared reality and instead become clashes over what reality itself is, rapprochement is no longer possible. At that point, the logic of civic debate and constitutional politics gives way to the logic of force.

To see all this as a tragic misfortune is deeply mistaken. What has emerged is not spontaneous disorder but a carefully tended culture of antipathy — fertilized by theory, irrigated by resentful passions and sustained by bureaucracies whose survival depends on perpetual conflict.”

https://dailysceptic.org/2025/09/16/how-the-left-programmed-young-people-to-hate/
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2025, 10:55:58 AM »
"Earlier this year..."

It should be obvious to everyone by now that his stances had changed on a great number of topics in the past six months, and Catholic doctrine is against the death penalty as long as long term confinement is feasable and the community can be kept safe.

They believe every soul deserves the possibility of redemption.
Do you assume that every person who adopts a Christian faith must 100% agree with all the opinions of their new faith no matter what?

Or, just like voting, you choose that denomination/church that most closely aligns with your own beliefs and values and accept there are areas in which you may still disagree?

Just because he was in the process of converting doesn't mean he'd actually converted, nor does it mean he changed his long-held opinions in order to conform to the church's.

The Catholic Church's stance on the death penatly has evolved over the past few decades.  it's a moving target that's continually narrowing the cases in which states can morally apply a death sentence.

Many Catholic leaders argue that the church has not changed it's stance on capital punishment generally.  it has only better defined the application of it using concrete historical examples.
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it is important to show, and we do show, that a Catholic may legitimately
support capital punishment. But we go beyond that. We argue that there
really are no good reasons at all to abolish capital punishment, and that
there are compelling reasons to preserve it. Catholics not only may but
ought to support it.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-catholic-case-for-capital-punishment
« Last Edit: September 16, 2025, 11:02:07 AM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2025, 11:22:32 AM »
Just because he was in the process of converting doesn't mean he'd actually converted, nor does it mean he changed his long-held opinions in order to conform to the church's.

He did have a major shift on his opinions regarding Israel, mostly because he was tired of being threatened for questioning their influence on our government.

It's not that big a jump from opposing genocide to opposing capital punishment.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2025, 11:50:12 AM »
He did have a major shift on his opinions regarding Israel, mostly because he was tired of being threatened for questioning their influence on our government.

It's not that big a jump from opposing genocide to opposing capital punishment.
Did you take a class in Extreme Rhetorical Nonsense?  Nothing is ever slight, minor, reasonable or gradual with you. 

Charlie never opposed capitol punishment, nor was there any genocide occurring in Palestine other than Hamas attacking and killing innocent civilians without provocation.

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Kirk always openly supported Israel. He described this country as the
“front line of Western civilization”. When the US opened its embassy in
Jerusalem in 2018, Kirk was present there and called that visit “eye-opening”.
He also said that his organization would always stand with Israel.
https://news24online.com/world/trump-ally-charlie-kirk-supported-israel-or-palestine/631666/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2025, 12:08:01 PM »
You talk like an expert, but you're just some ill-tempered internet rando gatekeeper who believes whatever they are told to believe.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2025, 12:25:04 PM »
You talk like an expert, but you're just some ill-tempered internet rando gatekeeper who believes whatever they are told to believe.
Wow!  you must have passed that class with honors!

Expert?  seems like you're the one trying to pass yourself off as the SME of anti-US-Emperialism and a hundred other catch phrases.

In your opinion, if I start believing you, then I would be someone "who believes whatever they are told to believe," only it would be what YOU are telling me and not a source you disagree with.  How is that not the same?

And don't say you are getting me to  think for myself.  Why can't I think for myself AND have opinions that oppose yours?  The two are NOT mutually exclusice.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2025, 12:33:18 PM »
Antifa has been active the whole time. Andy Ngo has been tracking them ever since they gave him permanent brain damage,
Lots of murder and mayhem. Seattle and Portland are their incubators and the police have been instructed not to touch them.

Clearly a significant faction within our government finds them useful, otherwise they would not be allowed to exist.
The feds could roll them up in an afternoon. If they don’t do it soon then someone on the freshly radicalized right is going to step up and do it for them.

Maybe that’s the whole point. Sow chaos. We just haven’t taken the bait yet and the deep state is getting frustrated.
I never said ANTIFA has not been active until now.  What I said was a comparison between different moments in time.

Everything is relative.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2025, 12:34:57 PM »
Charlie was turning against Israel and they perceived it as a major threat because they are losing the propaganda war.
The genocide has become too grotesque and one-sided to ignore. Most of the world has turned on them.
Their influence on our government has been decidedly anti-constitutional. Patriots don't like pedo protection rackets.
Their economy is falling apart. If we stopped funding them they would soon be overrun by all the enemies they made.
They specialize in political assassinations and are quite proud of it, regularly showing off their ingenuity.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2025, 05:23:29 PM »
Charlie was turning against Israel and they perceived it as a major threat because they are losing the propaganda war.
The genocide has become too grotesque and one-sided to ignore. Most of the world has turned on them.
Their influence on our government has been decidedly anti-constitutional. Patriots don't like pedo protection rackets.
Their economy is falling apart. If we stopped funding them they would soon be overrun by all the enemies they made.
They specialize in political assassinations and are quite proud of it, regularly showing off their ingenuity.
How is this remotely related to the OP?  I posted about Liberals calling for death for conservatives because off our speech and who we vote for.

Now you're going off the deep end (again) with this?

Just stop!!

 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2025, 05:32:54 PM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2025, 08:02:45 PM »
Just stop!!

If you’re going to gatekeep then try picking a gate that you actually have some control over.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2025, 08:16:20 PM »
If you’re going to gatekeep then try picking a gate that you actually have some control over.

If you're going to post the same anti-Israeli BS on every single thread, then you must not think it's a strong enough argument to convince anyone.

You're like those ratchet women we see in videos who sound like a broken record.  Say it loud enough and repeatedly enough, eventually you get someone to give you what you want.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2025, 08:49:17 PM »
If you're going to post the same anti-Israeli BS on every single thread, then you must not think it's a strong enough argument to convince anyone.

Don’t worry. This won’t go on indefinitely since Israel probably won’t be around much longer.
Trying to intimidate Charlie was a giant screw up on their part, regardless of who actually sent the hit squad.
It’s eerily similar to the libs who thought they could say all those horrible things and were surprised when they got fired.
Israel thought they could do whatever they wanted without consequences, and now pretty much the entire planet hates them.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2025, 10:07:23 PM »
Don’t worry. This won’t go on indefinitely since Israel probably won’t be around much longer.
Trying to intimidate Charlie was a giant screw up on their part, regardless of who actually sent the hit squad.
It’s eerily similar to the libs who thought they could say all those horrible things and were surprised when they got fired.
Israel thought they could do whatever they wanted without consequences, and now pretty much the entire planet hates them.

That's a lie.  For example, all G7 nations support Israel.  That alone shoots down the lie that "pretty much the entire planet hates them."

The G7 nations are Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States, along with the European Union as a non-enumerated member.

G7 expresses support for Israel,
calls Iran source of instability

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/g7-expresses-support-israel-calls-iran-source-instability-2025-06-17/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2025, 10:51:22 PM »
That's a lie.  For example, all G7 nations support Israel.  That alone shoots down the lie that "pretty much the entire planet hates them."

They g7 countries benefit from having a military base in the Middle East that destabilizes the region in order to control the flow of energy.
When Israel falls our gas prices will go through the roof, and that will wipe out whatever is left of our fake economy.
That’s probably why Trump is trying to protect them until we can invade Venezuela or the arctic. At some point Israel will be cut loose once they no longer serve a purpose, and I genuinely do feel bad for the people who live there and have no idea what’s going on. Hopefully most of them get out in time.

Somehow our nation moved away from Christian values and decided that it’s okay to allow genocide and pedophilia if that’s the cost of holding on to our wealth. Then Charlie came along and reminded everyone what having principles actually looks like and they killed him for it.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2025, 11:44:09 PM »
They g7 countries benefit from having a military base in the Middle East that destabilizes the region in order to control the flow of energy.
When Israel falls our gas prices will go through the roof, and that will wipe out whatever is left of our fake economy.
That’s probably why Trump is trying to protect them until we can invade Venezuela or the arctic. At some point Israel will be cut loose once they no longer serve a purpose, and I genuinely do feel bad for the people who live there and have no idea what’s going on. Hopefully most of them get out in time.

Somehow our nation moved away from Christian values and decided that it’s okay to allow genocide and pedophilia if that’s the cost of holding on to our wealth. Then Charlie came along and reminded everyone what having principles actually looks like and they killed him for it.
All those words tell me one obvious thing:  you were lying about the whole planet hating Israel and decided to go off on another tangent rather than admit it.

 :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2025, 02:03:12 AM »
All those words tell me one obvious thing:  you were lying about the whole planet hating Israel and decided to go off on another tangent rather than admit it.

You know I’m making good points but your ego is too fragile to admit it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/16/israel-committed-genocide-in-gaza-says-un-inquiry




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changemyoil66

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2025, 07:53:03 AM »
Charlie Kirk said something along the lines  when asked about Israel and why he supports them over Palestine:  "they aren't' the most righteous, but in the region they are".  With regard that they aren't perfect, as no nation is.  Even the US killed innocents in various wars. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2025, 10:19:40 AM »
You know I’m making good points but your ego is too fragile to admit it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/16/israel-committed-genocide-in-gaza-says-un-inquiry
Fragile ego?  LOL!!!  You still haven't addressed my questions.  Seems like your ego is too fragile for an honest discussion.

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The United Nations independent international commission of inquiry (COI),
which does not speak on behalf of the UN, found that “genocide is occurring
in Gaza and is continuing to occur”, said its head, Navi Pillay.
   .   .
   .   .
The COI, set up by the UN in 2021 and staffed by three independent experts,
cited the killing of civilians and children in a “scorched-earth military strategy”,
starvation and deaths caused by restrictions on food and medicines, mistreatment
of detainees, forced displacement and the physical devastation of much of the
territory to support its finding.
   .   .
   .   .
The independent COI’s analysis is the strongest finding by a UN body to date but
its conclusions do not represent the UN’s official position. The world body itself
has not yet used the term genocide, but is under growing pressure to do so.


If the UN hasn't adopted the report created by 3 so-called experts, then why do you think it carries any weight with anyone else?

This is the definition of grasping at straws.  The 3 experts have demonstrated a clear anti-Israel bias in the past.  No surprise they were selected for this commission.

https://www.camera.org/article/the-un-commission-of-inquiry-what-you-need-to-know/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Rocky

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2025, 10:43:16 AM »
 invade the arctic ?   :wacko:
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