What's Happening??? (Read 5594 times)

eyeeatingfish

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2025, 09:18:06 PM »
The FCC did NOT threaten ABC's license.  They simply said the FCC would investigate the Kimmel comments.  No threats to revoke licenses were made in any way.  Before a license is revoked, there would be hearings, settlement meetings and so on.  Only in the event the broadcaster was found to be continually violating their license and made no effort to correct it would the FCC move to revoke that license.  In this case, the broadcaster cited reasons other than the FCC for preempting Kimmel's show, mostly due to advertising revenue and marketing demographics.

The FCC was created to ensure public broadcast companies served the public interest and adhered to set  standards of decency and integrity.  Because they are a regulatory agency, they can dictate that any political candidate provided airtime by a broadcaster must give equal time to any other candidates that oppose the first one.  They also set decency standards so that certain subjects or images can only be aired late in the evening after very young are in bed or the TV is off.  That's not censorship.  It's setting rules to make the industry more sensitive to the public's interest.

Kimmel was telling everyone watching 100% verifiable lies and using the lies to demonize one political group -- MAGA Republicans.  That's NOT in the public's interest.  Prove me wrong.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/sep/18/did-the-fcc-cancel-jimmy-kimmel/

It was absolutely a threat, Brendan Carr didn't simply say "we are investigating complaints of a violation of broadcast rules", he said "There's calls for Kimmel to be fired," Carr said. "I think you could certainly see a path forward for suspension over this.". He also said "We can do this the easy way or the hard way." A broadcast company is absolutely going to take that as a threat. If ABC were going to fire Kimmel on their own because they didn't like the comments then great but now the FCC chairman with his stupid threat makes Kimmel a martyr and his return looks like a win for them.

Then Pam Bondi chimes in with her stupid mouth about prosecuting hate speech but that's a separate issue. She should be removed from her position for such a comment, sounded like a far lefty.

Be realistic here, if the FCC were really going start investigating broadcast companies all the way down to the level of comedians, they would all have their licenses revoked, Fox included. Think of the precedent this creates, all this does is give the next democrat president license to abuse government control. What happens when a democrat is in charge and goes after AM Talk Radio who has no shortage of content not in the public's interest?

Conservatives were rightly upset when the government pressured Facebook and when the IRS targeted the Tea Party but suddenly the values against government abuse of power evaporate?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2025, 10:25:39 PM »
It was absolutely a threat, Brendan Carr didn't simply say "we are investigating complaints of a violation of broadcast rules", he said "There's calls for Kimmel to be fired," Carr said. "I think you could certainly see a path forward for suspension over this.". He also said "We can do this the easy way or the hard way." A broadcast company is absolutely going to take that as a threat. If ABC were going to fire Kimmel on their own because they didn't like the comments then great but now the FCC chairman with his stupid threat makes Kimmel a martyr and his return looks like a win for them.

Then Pam Bondi chimes in with her stupid mouth about prosecuting hate speech but that's a separate issue. She should be removed from her position for such a comment, sounded like a far lefty.

Be realistic here, if the FCC were really going start investigating broadcast companies all the way down to the level of comedians, they would all have their licenses revoked, Fox included. Think of the precedent this creates, all this does is give the next democrat president license to abuse government control. What happens when a democrat is in charge and goes after AM Talk Radio who has no shortage of content not in the public's interest?

Conservatives were rightly upset when the government pressured Facebook and when the IRS targeted the Tea Party but suddenly the values against government abuse of power evaporate?
If a comedian breaks FCC rules, then YES, he or she will be the reason for the investigation.  How can they not be?  You act as if he was some unknown doing standup in a small night club.  The man was hosting the late night show on ABC since January 2003.  That's not some unknown comedian or show guest.

Kimmel is not a comedian. Nothing he said in that Charlie Kirk monologue was remotely funny, nor was he delivering the lines as jokes.  He told already debunked lies about the shooting suspect being MAGA and accused MAGA Republicans of trying to score political points by distancing him from the movement.  Nothing about it was "comedy."

He's never been funny in my book -- all the way back to The Man Show and Win Ben Stein's Money.  I've never seen a complete showing of Jimmy Kimmel Live!, because he's just not funny.
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changemyoil66

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2025, 09:13:31 AM »
It was absolutely a threat, Brendan Carr didn't simply say "we are investigating complaints of a violation of broadcast rules", he said "There's calls for Kimmel to be fired," Carr said. "I think you could certainly see a path forward for suspension over this.". He also said "We can do this the easy way or the hard way." A broadcast company is absolutely going to take that as a threat. If ABC were going to fire Kimmel on their own because they didn't like the comments then great but now the FCC chairman with his stupid threat makes Kimmel a martyr and his return looks like a win for them.

Then Pam Bondi chimes in with her stupid mouth about prosecuting hate speech but that's a separate issue. She should be removed from her position for such a comment, sounded like a far lefty.

Be realistic here, if the FCC were really going start investigating broadcast companies all the way down to the level of comedians, they would all have their licenses revoked, Fox included. Think of the precedent this creates, all this does is give the next democrat president license to abuse government control. What happens when a democrat is in charge and goes after AM Talk Radio who has no shortage of content not in the public's interest?

Conservatives were rightly upset when the government pressured Facebook and when the IRS targeted the Tea Party but suddenly the values against government abuse of power evaporate?

At times I wonder if you even read what you type.  You're own post counters your argument.

changemyoil66

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2025, 09:14:21 AM »
Side note, I only saw parts of Kimmels comeback and he's doing what someone does here. Deflecting the issue.  Then he wants sympathy as he too and his family have received threats as well.

QUIETShooter

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2025, 10:26:02 AM »
"Who's jimmy kimmel?" is what I say when someone mentions him to me.

Not that I don't know who he is.

I don't care.

Even before the Charlie Kirk tragedy.
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Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2025, 11:07:50 AM »
WARNING: graphic pictures!!!

edited by macsak

Don’t know about you, but I kinda like this look on these “guys?”

https://channel2now.com/2025/09/24/article/news/crime/graphic-image-of-dallas-ice-facility-shooting-suspect-joshua-jahn-after-taking-his-own-life-8100-block-of-north-stemmons-freeway/

Very fetching.
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Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2025, 11:27:32 AM »
clips...

https://channel2now.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/G1n3HBgWsAEakcu.jpeg?v=1758729551
Yes - one source identified as 8mm Mauser, and photos seem to match the bolt action rifle of the same name.  Sorry, I’m ignorant of these rifles - but sure seems they have a real hard-on for Mausers.

Maybe the rifle speaks to their inner Nazi.

PS - My apologies macsak for making you put the warning there - will make sure to not make that mistake again.
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Westside_Redneck

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2025, 11:38:46 AM »
Yes - one source identified as 8mm Mauser, and photos seem to match the bolt action rifle of the same name.  Sorry, I’m ignorant of these rifles - but sure seems they have a real hard-on for Mausers.

Maybe the rifle speaks to their inner Nazi.

PS - My apologies macsak for making you put the warning there - will make sure to not make that mistake again.

Perhaps somebody got a surplus of Mauser rifles and has been supplying transtifa with them to carry out these shootings.

The rifle of Charlie Kirk's assassin was said to have been registered to his grandfather but has the grandfather himself confirmed that?

changemyoil66

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2025, 11:56:41 AM »
Perhaps somebody got a surplus of Mauser rifles and has been supplying transtifa with them to carry out these shootings.

The rifle of Charlie Kirk's assassin was said to have been registered to his grandfather but has the grandfather himself confirmed that?

If you believe the chats, then he stated his father was asking about his grandfathers rifle.  As he prob saw it on TV and it looked like it.  Which is what prompted the father to ask about it.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2025, 11:56:56 AM »
Yes - one source identified as 8mm Mauser, and photos seem to match the bolt action rifle of the same name.  Sorry, I’m ignorant of these rifles - but sure seems they have a real hard-on for Mausers.

Maybe the rifle speaks to their inner Nazi.


PS - My apologies macsak for making you put the warning there - will make sure to not make that mistake again.
Or their inner Chinese Communist.

IMO, it looks like 762x54R ammo for a Mosin-Nagant or foreign copy.

In the graphic image of the deceased shooter, the rifle looks like a Mosin-Nagant, possibly an M44 carbine.  The silver barrel bands look a lot like a China-Produced Type 53.  But, Mosin owners have been known to "clean" the finish off their rifles, so the silver parts may not be a clue.




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eyeeatingfish

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2025, 10:28:58 PM »
If a comedian breaks FCC rules, then YES, he or she will be the reason for the investigation.  How can they not be?  You act as if he was some unknown doing standup in a small night club.  The man was hosting the late night show on ABC since January 2003.  That's not some unknown comedian or show guest.

Kimmel is not a comedian. Nothing he said in that Charlie Kirk monologue was remotely funny, nor was he delivering the lines as jokes.  He told already debunked lies about the shooting suspect being MAGA and accused MAGA Republicans of trying to score political points by distancing him from the movement.  Nothing about it was "comedy."

He's never been funny in my book -- all the way back to The Man Show and Win Ben Stein's Money.  I've never seen a complete showing of Jimmy Kimmel Live!, because he's just not funny.

If the FCC actually had some record of going after comedians then maybe you could make the case it was a routine investigation into FCC rules. Of course that would mean you are endorsing unelected officials who pass rules with the strength of law.

As I said earlier, many stations would have lost their licenses long ago if the FCC actually went after every network which said something false. Who goes to Kimmel for news anyway, his show is a stand up entertainment with occasional crappy political commentary. Show me all the other stations that had to fire people or lost their license because something was said. Can you find a single incident of the FCC taking action for a station broadcasting false information?

I have never liked Kimmel either but this is clearly a political attack and I don't abandon my values against abusive government just because they are going after a guy I don't like.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2025, 09:38:02 AM »
If the FCC actually had some record of going after comedians then maybe you could make the case it was a routine investigation into FCC rules. Of course that would mean you are endorsing unelected officials who pass rules with the strength of law.

As I said earlier, many stations would have lost their licenses long ago if the FCC actually went after every network which said something false. Who goes to Kimmel for news anyway, his show is a stand up entertainment with occasional crappy political commentary. Show me all the other stations that had to fire people or lost their license because something was said. Can you find a single incident of the FCC taking action for a station broadcasting false information?

I have never liked Kimmel either but this is clearly a political attack and I don't abandon my values against abusive government just because they are going after a guy I don't like.
First, you have no idea what you are saying.  Regulators do not "pass'' rules.  The proposed rules are posted, comments are solicited, changes are made if needed, and eventually the rule is adopted -- not "passed."  Pass implies a vote.

We have unelected officials making policy and rule decisions everyday and at all levels of government.  You make it sound like Congress let a bunch of kindergarteners make the rules without any process at all.  The rules have as much force as the laws which grant the body to make rules.  If the FCC grants licenses based on their rules, then they can surely revoke the licenses based on the same rules.  No different than you going to the permit office to get a building permit.  They made the rules for building standards in Honolulu County, not the Legislature.

You're kind of dense, huh?  I already said the FCC investigates, and if the infraction was satisfied with a correction, apology and/or fine, no licenses are revoked.  The View was hit with their lies, probably by the network's legal department, and forced to make corrections and apologizing during the next show.  This happened at least twice recently.  The FCC didn't have to do anything, because the network recognized the infraction and took immediate action.

Most people/networks are smart enough not to blatantly dare the FCC to force them to follow the rules.  Kimmel is a special kind of idiot -- but that's what his career has been built on, so not a surprise.

As for the FCC saying they would not let Kimmel's LIES AND POLITICAL ATTACKS during his monologue go unpunished was not a political move.  it's a response to Kimmel's political comments.  The response would have been the same if his comments used profanity that's not allowed.  The rules are finally being enforced after these late night party hacks have been getting away with it for so long.  It's driving the Left (and Leftist sympathizers like you) livid.
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hvybarrels

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2025, 10:52:37 AM »
Don't care about Jimmy. His ratings were in the toilet.

This is the type of cancellation I've been waiting for.

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

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Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2025, 12:23:29 PM »
Don't care about Jimmy. His ratings were in the toilet.

This is the type of cancellation I've been waiting for.


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QUIETShooter

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« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2025, 01:25:07 PM »
Don't care about Jimmy. His ratings were in the toilet.

This is the type of cancellation I've been waiting for.



I hope it doesn't stop with him.  Better not.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2025, 12:10:58 PM »
First, you have no idea what you are saying.  Regulators do not "pass'' rules.  The proposed rules are posted, comments are solicited, changes are made if needed, and eventually the rule is adopted -- not "passed."  Pass implies a vote.

We have unelected officials making policy and rule decisions everyday and at all levels of government.  You make it sound like Congress let a bunch of kindergarteners make the rules without any process at all.  The rules have as much force as the laws which grant the body to make rules.  If the FCC grants licenses based on their rules, then they can surely revoke the licenses based on the same rules.  No different than you going to the permit office to get a building permit.  They made the rules for building standards in Honolulu County, not the Legislature.

You're kind of dense, huh?  I already said the FCC investigates, and if the infraction was satisfied with a correction, apology and/or fine, no licenses are revoked.  The View was hit with their lies, probably by the network's legal department, and forced to make corrections and apologizing during the next show.  This happened at least twice recently.  The FCC didn't have to do anything, because the network recognized the infraction and took immediate action.

Most people/networks are smart enough not to blatantly dare the FCC to force them to follow the rules.  Kimmel is a special kind of idiot -- but that's what his career has been built on, so not a surprise.

As for the FCC saying they would not let Kimmel's LIES AND POLITICAL ATTACKS during his monologue go unpunished was not a political move.  it's a response to Kimmel's political comments.  The response would have been the same if his comments used profanity that's not allowed.  The rules are finally being enforced after these late night party hacks have been getting away with it for so long.  It's driving the Left (and Leftist sympathizers like you) livid.

Interesting the flip in logic here, usually conservatives are against these agencies making policy rules and regulations (EPA, ATF, etc) but now when Trump is in charge they are suddenly defending the process of unelected officials doing just that. I am not saying which way is right or wrong here, just pointing out the inconsistency. Defend the power of the FCC if you want, I am not arguing against it.

I have no problem with the FCC enforcing the rules if the rules are enforced consistently across the board. This is clearly a politically motivated matter not only because Trump is in charge and picked the FCC chairman but because of Trump's conflict of interest in the administrations power to have mergers of media companies approved or denied. Like Trump's suit over CBS which they settled out paying big money to Trump when he clearly had them by the balls due to them needing the Trump administration's approval for the purchase they wanted to make.

It is not sympathy for the left that drives me, it is opposition to corrupt government. Conservatives used to care about corrupt authoritarian government, it is one of our biggest arguments for private firearm ownership but when Daddy Trump comes along you excuse it.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2025, 01:50:50 PM »
Interesting the flip in logic here, usually conservatives are against these agencies making policy rules and regulations (EPA, ATF, etc) but now when Trump is in charge they are suddenly defending the process of unelected officials doing just that. I am not saying which way is right or wrong here, just pointing out the inconsistency. Defend the power of the FCC if you want, I am not arguing against it.

I have no problem with the FCC enforcing the rules if the rules are enforced consistently across the board. This is clearly a politically motivated matter not only because Trump is in charge and picked the FCC chairman but because of Trump's conflict of interest in the administrations power to have mergers of media companies approved or denied. Like Trump's suit over CBS which they settled out paying big money to Trump when he clearly had them by the balls due to them needing the Trump administration's approval for the purchase they wanted to make.

It is not sympathy for the left that drives me, it is opposition to corrupt government. Conservatives used to care about corrupt authoritarian government, it is one of our biggest arguments for private firearm ownership but when Daddy Trump comes along you excuse it.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Just because the previous administration let the late night unfunny comedy shows become anti-MAGA, anti-Conservative, anti-Republican, anti-Christian bullhorns for the Left doesn't mean that this administration's enforcement of the rules are political.  They are executing the duties they were elected and appointed to do. 

Since when is worsening the divide in our country considered in the interest of the nation?
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Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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hvybarrels

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2025, 08:13:38 PM »
It's hilarious that the people who weaponized the government to a pre-revolutionary state are suddenly concerned about fairness and the rule of law.

Let's be real. They are panicking because they know treason is a hangable offense.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: What's Happening???
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2025, 01:08:56 PM »
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Just because the previous administration let the late night unfunny comedy shows become anti-MAGA, anti-Conservative, anti-Republican, anti-Christian bullhorns for the Left doesn't mean that this administration's enforcement of the rules are political.  They are executing the duties they were elected and appointed to do. 

Since when is worsening the divide in our country considered in the interest of the nation?

So you expect Trump to come after Fox news soon then? If so I have some oceanfront property in Montana to sell you.  :thumbsup: