mean streets of 96816...
 

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I’m really confused by this, as this is exactly the point I’m making:  Bang, first time every time when in the gravest extreme, no possibility of Bang otherwise unless YOU cause it by accident or mistake.  Revolvers more completely epitomize this characteristic mechanically, in their design.  In semiauto, Glock probably comes closest to this simplicity.  The firing pin channel block in the slide is the first and most secure safety preventing the striker from making it to the primer.  Modern revolvers have a steel hammer block, but then, the hammer isn’t cocked anyway, as the firing pin is in the Glock.

This horse is waaaay past dead.  You can tell when there seems to be differing opinions, but folks are apparently saying the same damn thing, back and forth!

i'm still not sure what you are saying.  Are you stating there are no semi-autos that are as safe to carry as a modern revolver unless it has a manual safety?

Look, nothing you’ve said here changes the fact that “one in the tube” means the firearm is ready to fire and is prevented from doing so by mechanical safeties - some, on some pistols, you must also manually articulate before firing.

You’re cool with living in that reality in CCW.

It doesn’t exist for me - and I give up NOTHING THAT MATTERS for that,

… but you are welcome to it!

No, nothing of the kind.  Obviously also not talking about SA DA semiautos which happen to use a slide to load the next round instead of a cylinder, and function exactly like a revolver for the purposes of this discussion, I.e. ready to fire immediately upon presentation without hammer / striker having already been cocked and prevented from release by some form of safety.

Ok?  So again, I’m talking specifically about this:

Alternately, you are free to argue that ALL semiautos are simpler in design and complexity, are safer with respect to AD’s, and are more reliable in terms of function, than modern revolvers - and will unfailingly meet these criteria while digesting any load in its caliber - and there are ample numbers of semiautos that will accept magnum loadings, and function just the same.

Heading to the bar now, suggest you do the same.

That's got to be the mother of all straw arguments.

 

i'm still not sure what you are saying.  Are you stating there are no semi-autos that are as safe to carry as a modern revolver unless it has a manual safety?

Yes, now we’re even 

Unless you are a Special Forces operative, a drug dealer, work for the mafia, or belong in a f*ckn gang,

the revolver is enough.....

edited to add:  depends where you live too.  Chicago, New York, LA, etc. the revolver not enough.

and another thing.....

Hey thanks!- great post dude!

I loved

“If you think you can afford to miss 12 times before you hit something, then maybe a semiauto is for you.”

Wish I was funny sometimes 

I like his gun room. choke guns and neatly stored. I think the door to his gun room is a bank vault door, so it's pretty secure. 

i asked you if that's what you meant.  That's not how straw arguments work.  in fact, it's a far cry from it.

I never said what you said i was "free to argue" -- i never did make those arguments.

if you don't want to actually have an intelligent discussion, just say so.  i assumed you were serious about your opinions.  Now it seems you're more serious about ignoring my questions and muddying the waters for your own enjoyment.

i'll stop here unless you come back with something a bit more grounded and less like gobbledygook.

What utter rubbish you write.

In this thread you’ve misrepresented my position repeatedly, to the point of editing out my core position in your responses.

Look, no one comes here to engage in legalistic pedantic jive.

Just be straight up and show some respect to others, and all goes well.

Just look at the bullshit insults above.  You should be embarrassed.

Your entire post was an immature insult -- and several days late in fact.

Slow reader, are you? I can type slower if that helps.

Look, I’ve been around here long enough to clearly see that there is no love lost between you and ANYONE on this forum.

Just get a grip.  You’re just some guy like everyone else here, except much more socially awkward.

The last thing I come here for is to do this, but some things must be said.

All the best to you anyway, my intent is not to hate on you, but I’m not going to let you think you can insult me or anyone else here for that matter.

That’s a bright fucking line Ok?

Also, it’s unfair to single you out in this regard as I see it in other places as well - it seems to be accepted.

I say fuck that - never insult anyone here.  I’m fully willing to be banned here for pointing it out wherever I see it.

You've only been a member since April. 

Why don't you wait a little longer before appointing yourself Sergeant at Arms?

Hypocritically calling me out for insults is not a good look on you.

I know, but I’m not much to look at in the first place.

I'm glad we can finally agree on something.