The videos i usually see are where the sign thieves or vandals are caught and identified as leftist/anti-right political idiots.  I've seen them get shocked, destroy their vehicles while running over signs, and videoed and identified as left-wing supporters, often just a neighbor jogging or walking the dog.

As the video you posted admitted, this last presidential election was highly unusual for so many democrat signs to be stolen or destroyed.  Let that sink in first -- not a "happens on both sides" comment at all.  Second, you have to consider whether democrats are also destroying democrat signs, not just republicans doing it.  Biden was a horrible choice for reelection.  Then, when Harris took his place, all those who supported Biden had to honestly come to grips with how bad their party really is.  I can see many of them disillusioned to the point of taking/trashing signs for Harris (including Biden/Harris signs that were sill up).

As the lady said, and as I said, these videos are mostly vandalizing of Republican signs.  And the videos you posted don't prove otherwise.  The BLM video is a one-off, someone who wanted clicks on YT.  Otherwise, s/he would not have been so overt about it.  Going after a BLM road painting is no where near the same as attacking a stranger over their apparel or stealing signs for a political party.  BLM is not a political party -- they are a gang of scammers who fleeced supporters out of millions to spend on themselves.

As for someone attacking someone in a restaurant for wearing Trump apparal, WTF?  A dress code?  That's go nothing to do with it.  Lame.

I have seen many of the videos you speak of as well, often very entertaining. Of course you recognize the problem of trying to base a statistical position based on how many videos we see, with a conservative bent we see more conservative material. There may indeed be more unhinged people on the left but what videos we get fed can distort our understanding of reality.

You say that we have to consider that democrats might be destroying their own signs. While I never discount that possibility, I never see people who point that out as a possibility apply it to republican signs being destroyed. Whether a disagreement within the party or even false flag incidents, that suggestion cuts both ways.

You said we "never see" to which I posted examples and now you are trying to say that it doesn't count because this or that. Don't move the goalposts, it isn't that hard to recognize that there are some unhinged people on the right as well. I can go look for videos of righties attacking lefties who are burning the US flag if you don't believe they ever engage in violence against speech they don't like.

I dunno dude.

Lefty protests are characterized by chip outs, property damage, looting, arson, and targeted violence against Americans - and they like doing this so much they plan them out like the Kailua Christmas Parade.

Righty protests are rare, and characterized by policing the area afterwards like cub scouts.  You have to try to do something like force inject them with some unknown substance though, before they get pissed off enough to do one.

If you are inclined to maintain the same-same argument here, I urge you to wait until AFTER the next installment of lefty protests scheduled for 10/18, for which they are escalating from “No Kings” (I guess the have an issue with the Brits  ), to “No Dictators” (Kim Jong Un?).

They will probably make the argument, well, let’s just say, less persuasive for you.

Chip outs?

Understand that I am not saying that the left and the right engage in these behaviors at the same rates, I think there is ample evidence to argue it happens more on the left, but my point was that the right is not immune to this kind of behavior.

I have seen many of the videos you speak of as well, often very entertaining. Of course you recognize the problem of trying to base a statistical position based on how many videos we see, with a conservative bent we see more conservative material. There may indeed be more unhinged people on the left but what videos we get fed can distort our understanding of reality.

You say that we have to consider that democrats might be destroying their own signs. While I never discount that possibility, I never see people who point that out as a possibility apply it to republican signs being destroyed. Whether a disagreement within the party or even false flag incidents, that suggestion cuts both ways.

You said we "never see" to which I posted examples and now you are trying to say that it doesn't count because this or that. Don't move the goalposts, it isn't that hard to recognize that there are some unhinged people on the right as well. I can go look for videos of righties attacking lefties who are burning the US flag if you don't believe they ever engage in violence against speech they don't like.

What goal posts?  I gave specific types of videos related to the OP video -- woman attacking a stranger in public for no other reason than his MAGA hat.  Period.  don't accuse me of moving goals when you posted evidence that was way out of bounds.

Burning ones own flag is not an attack on a specific individual over their attire.  They are not running up to a family in the park who are wearing MAGA hats and burning flags in front of them.

You must be really soar after all that stretching -- trying to make your examples fit my topic.

Fresh facts will have no more effect on his opinions than preexisting facts.

Once he's got his mind made up, you might as well sign up a pig for singing lessons.

I wish i was wrong, but years of trying has resulted in countless wasted hours and one pissed off pig!

Yah - maybe he doesn’t realize that if we are really so far off the rails reality-wise, we’d consider it a service to be truly corrected.  If you’re factually wrong, then you’re wrong - carrying on in a deluded manner on planet Earth, in some spheres of activity, can be very costly…

If we aren’t then we aren’t.

Chip outs?

Understand that I am not saying that the left and the right engage in these behaviors at the same rates, I think there is ample evidence to argue it happens more on the left, but my point was that the right is not immune to this kind of behavior.

We’ll wait a sec.  Has there EVER (not counting the Boston Tea Party) been an organized national protest by Righties against the Democrat party - because that’s what these are - political protests against the 77 million or so of us who voted for the restoration of immigration laws, etc.?

Chip outs?

Understand that I am not saying that the left and the right engage in these behaviors at the same rates, I think there is ample evidence to argue it happens more on the left, but my point was that the right is not immune to this kind of behavior.

You're hijacking another thread.  The topic is not which political faction is more insane than the other.

The question sitting right in front of you every time you post here says in the title:

TDS is real.  Were these people already insane, or did the Left cause this?

Focus, and quit moving the goal posts by ignoring the topic as presented.

Did you bother to view the video start to finish, or did you look at the preview and figure you know everything about it just from that?

I apologize to all chimps on the forum for the aforementioned association to Lefty flying butt-monkey rioters.

I apologize to all chimps on the forum for the aforementioned association to Lefty flying butt-monkey rioters.

Rule #6:  Never say you're sorry. It's a sign of weakness.

-- NCIS Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs

 

Rule #6:  Never say you're sorry. It's a sign of weakness.

-- NCIS Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs

 

I’m married to a 100 lb filipina who’s far more dangerous than I am….

Sometimes it just comes out of me like that.

I’m married to a 100 lb filipina who’s far more dangerous than I am….

Sometimes it just comes out of me like that.

Smart man.

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I’m married to a 100 lb filipina who’s far more dangerous than I am….

Sometimes it just comes out of me like that.

Gibbs' Rules were created to teach new NCIS agents how to be the kind of team members Gibbs wants them to become.

Nearly all the rules were meant to guide you in your professional interactions, not your personal relationships.

Gibbs' Rules were created to teach new NCIS agents how to be the kind of team members Gibbs wants them to become.

Nearly all the rules were meant to guide you in your professional interactions, not your personal relationships.

Yes, some are great!

I especially like Rule #7: Always be specific when you lie.

I use that with my wife when straight up apologizing may be too risky.

What goal posts?  I gave specific types of videos related to the OP video -- woman attacking a stranger in public for no other reason than his MAGA hat.  Period.  don't accuse me of moving goals when you posted evidence that was way out of bounds.

Burning ones own flag is not an attack on a specific individual over their attire.  They are not running up to a family in the park who are wearing MAGA hats and burning flags in front of them.

You must be really soar after all that stretching -- trying to make your examples fit my topic.

You asked for
"Please point some police body cam videos that show a Trump supporter, Republican, or conservative who was arrested for breaking the law in order to express their political hatred of the opposing parties."
You also asked about people damaging yard signs. I gave you videos of both but you tried to discount them as not counting by adding on additional criteria to what videos you wanted. Now you want it specifically along the lines of a MAGA hat type incident.

If you want actual assault incidents instead of just damaged signs I found a few examples.
Trump supporter attacks Trump protester


Another trump supporter punching a Trump protester, this one at a rally. The suspect stated on video "next time they may have to kill him" (the protester)


This one has a few more examples
of lesser things like spitting and shoving.

We’ll wait a sec.  Has there EVER (not counting the Boston Tea Party) been an organized national protest by Righties against the Democrat party - because that’s what these are - political protests against the 77 million or so of us who voted for the restoration of immigration laws, etc.?

Assuming your premise of a mass scale organization is accurate, what does it matter whether there is organized national protest by the right against the left? It doesn't prove anything, it doesn't make the protest more or less just. If the NRA organized 10 million gun owners to protest democrat anti-gun laws would you have a similar objection to that?

You're hijacking another thread. 

Wrong

The topic is not which political faction is more insane than the other.

Which is why that was not the point of my reply.

The question sitting right in front of you every time you post here says in the title:

TDS is real.  Were these people already insane, or did the Left cause this?

If you think you can understand political violence by looking at only one sides behavior then you will never understand the explanation for this type of behavior, you are just engaging in confirmation bias.

You asked for
"Please point some police body cam videos that show a Trump supporter, Republican, or conservative who was arrested for breaking the law in order to express their political hatred of the opposing parties."
You also asked about people damaging yard signs. I gave you videos of both but you tried to discount them as not counting by adding on additional criteria to what videos you wanted. Now you want it specifically along the lines of a MAGA hat type incident.

If you want actual assault incidents instead of just damaged signs I found a few examples.
Trump supporter attacks Trump protester

Another trump supporter punching a Trump protester, this one at a rally. The suspect stated on video "next time they may have to kill him" (the protester)

This one has a few more examples

You are so blind.

i'm asking for evidence of someone in public being attacked, not a liberal nut-bag creating a disturbance at a Trump rally.  In that instance, the liberal started the altercation by disrupting the event.  So, if he gets assaulted by a random someone, it's not because the man was a Liberal wearing a Biden hat.  It's because he's an idiot interfering in a rally that most people stood in line for hours to attend.

A campaign rally is political by definition.  I would expect politics to be the motivating factor when someone does something wrong there.

That's not the same as being in a restaurant or at a park minding your own business, engaging in zero political activities, and being attacked for wearing a hat or shirt.

Please focus.  if you can't find anything like this, just say so.  Stop posting video links that you think support some other similar topic that i didn't ask for.

Assuming your premise of a mass scale organization is accurate, what does it matter whether there is organized national protest by the right against the left? It doesn't prove anything, it doesn't make the protest more or less just. If the NRA organized 10 million gun owners to protest democrat anti-gun laws would you have a similar objection to that?

That never happened.  You're avoiding the question entirely.

That never happened.  You're avoiding the question entirely.

Swoosh

Wrong


Which is why that was not the point of my reply.


If you think you can understand political violence by looking at only one sides behavior then you will never understand the explanation for this type of behavior, you are just engaging in confirmation bias.

The topic is not about both sides.  Unless you believe the Right is somehow driving the Left insane, my topic will remain focused on one side's insanity and whether it happened organically or as a result of the left's policies and political activities.

if you don't want to play, you can start your own thread.  Stop trying to hijack mine.   

Swoosh

So mature.