The local propaganda stations are talking about violence against HPD officers, is this by design or is our state seriously providing permission structures like the other blue states to allow folks to feel like they can use violence against law enforcement without consequence.

See the thread about the "Its a family activity now" in the general section of the 2a forums for a recent example of this behavior.

How long until Honolulu starts to look more Portland, Boston and Illinois with all the open violence against cops. Or are people around here too broken down by the high cost of living and in constant survival mode, thus killing any and all motivation to go full WOKIE terrorist.

Lol I wager antifa and antifa-adjacent groups are treated more like a behind-college-doors social club here than an open terri organizations, they probably don't call themselves antifa! You'd never hear from these @$$#0/3$ until a "No King's Day" is announced on social media and they hide among the mob of brainwashed armchair marxists consisting of either old f&%$ or young single-female college-educated brats! Even then you'd never hear of one garbage can lid or one rock being weaponized against officers or bystanders

Real talk guys, don't sensationalize nor sugarcoat.

Partly ranting and partly looking for insight, I hate these @$$hats and my fatigue of them is real

My guess is the Democratic party never started up Antifa in Hawaii because they figured we are all sheep who would vote D forever.

All that is changing now, which makes me wonder if you're right about them finally starting a violent ground game locally.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2025/10/republican-national-committee-sues-hawaii-over-records-on-voter-rolls/

My guess is the Democratic party never started up Antifa in Hawaii because they figured we are all sheep who would vote D forever.

All that is changing now, which makes me wonder if you're right about them finally starting a violent ground game locally.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2025/10/republican-national-committee-sues-hawaii-over-records-on-voter-rolls/

My guess is they did the cost-benefit analysis and couldn't justify the travel and lodging expenses for professional protesters, rioters and instigators to come here.  Much cheaper to bus them or have them carpool from city to city on the mainland.

Openly support violence against police? Generally speaking no (there are always outliers)

When you listen to them speak in detail about their ideas for criminal justice reform, police are a side issue but not the target. They have different beliefs about what causes someone to go to a life of crime and how to solves these problems. These ideas, things like Restorative Justice, posit less punitive recourses for more "healing" type recourses. The purpose is not to condone attacks on cops but the result is less prison/sentence time.

Hawaii is reliably blue but as the bumper sticker goes, "this ain't the mainland". Some crazy left ideas pop up but we don't get them as bad, the people here aren't as lefty. I don't think we will ever get as bad as Portland.

Hawaii is reliably blue but as the bumper sticker goes, "this ain't the mainland". Some crazy left ideas pop up but we don't get them as bad, the people here aren't as lefty. I don't think we will ever get as bad as Portland.

So you think there's enough East Asian progressivism to prevent the "outlyer" degenerates from feeling emboldened to casually assault officers without fear of getting hit with real charges and being on the watchlist to appear for a court date?

Once upon a time here, there used to be the "braddah" enforcers. If anyone used to act up, they would quickly pull that "troublemaker" aside and in a lot of cases you would never hear from them again. I heard of folks who were found later buried in cane fields, and somebody on Kauai was thrown into a processing facility and all anybody could find of him was his shoes.

Also DLNR used to actively check campers for permits, even roust them awake at 4 in the morning in some cases.

Bottom line is there used to be more overall enforcement around here between local vigilantes and law enforcement, now it feels like anybody can do whatever they want now. (Speed around late at night up a public street, be schizophrenic screaming terrets syndrome and defecate in front of private buildings, camp overnight off the beaten path after the authorities go home for the day, this happens at beach parks also etc.) On top of it, a lot of people have become so tolerant to the lack of authority. "Bom-bye" "pass the buck"? Or scared into submission because they don't want to be labeled a snitch or repercussions.


What happened between the 70s and now?

What happened between the 70s and now?

For sure the local Khmer Rouge became more radicalized and began inflicting more damage on the people here post-Obama.

Prior they liked their comfy plantation:  They got all the graft they wanted, didn’t feel the need to get up people’s asses beyond that.  It was an Ok place in the 70’s.

Since then, there is no bottom to their pit of abuse of the people here.  For example, they completely voided the representative (legislative) process and used a manufactured court settlement to put 17 teenagers in charge of the State’s future.

They demand electric planes.

Clearly, if the people here wish to survive, they will have to liberate these islands from what are now foaming at the mouth Marxists.

They are clearly capable of anything now.

Openly support violence against police? Generally speaking no (there are always outliers)

When you listen to them speak in detail about their ideas for criminal justice reform, police are a side issue but not the target. They have different beliefs about what causes someone to go to a life of crime and how to solves these problems. These ideas, things like Restorative Justice, posit less punitive recourses for more "healing" type recourses. The purpose is not to condone attacks on cops but the result is less prison/sentence time.

Hawaii is reliably blue but as the bumper sticker goes, "this ain't the mainland". Some crazy left ideas pop up but we don't get them as bad, the people here aren't as lefty. I don't think we will ever get as bad as Portland.

How long have you lived in Hawaii?

For sure the local Khmer Rouge became more radicalized and began inflicting more damage on the people here post-Obama.

Prior they liked their comfy plantation:  They got all the graft they wanted, didn’t feel the need to get up people’s asses beyond that.  It was an Ok place in the 70’s.

Since then, there is no bottom to their pit of abuse of the people here.  For example, they completely voided the representative (legislative) process and used a manufactured court settlement to put 17 teenagers in charge of the State’s future.

They demand electric planes.

Clearly, if the people here wish to survive, they will have to liberate these islands from what are now foaming at the mouth Marxists.

They are clearly capable of anything now.

I can tell you are referring to our state government. I can't stand them either if you haven't guessed by my posts by now.

What's frustrating to me about our current situation is that our government is complicit in being able to do whatever they want without being overt about it to the point where people smell trouble.

Our government is 100% reliant on; an illiterate hair-trigger-woke misinformed class of college educated brats, blue state rich transplants with money or military ties and pension-collecting retired morons to keep them in power indefinitely! While the Hawaiian sovereignty movement's only message is "Hawaii is stolen land" and "Do not participate in US elections" relying on historical grievances to make their case. I am convinced they are controlled opposition by design! To discourage others from registering to vote and make up a voting block that could spell trouble for the Dems here.



My post was talking more about why our government can be so tyrannical and let authority and accountability, as it applies to day-to-day citizens, go by the wayside at the same time.
If your goal is control wouldn't you want more police harassing folks who are disturbing the peace, taking up unsightly space, disregarding laws at inconvenient times of the day (speeding at 11PM at night), or camping without a permit check?
The only time these dickheads will do any enforcement is when some clown blows up an illegal firework under his car in his own garage!

How long have you lived in Hawaii?

Pretty much my whole life.
How about you?

Pretty much my whole life.
How about you?

Born and raised. bruh