I'm thinking that this might be a decoy tactic.
Keep an eye out for something going in the back door.

Your point is well taken, but it’s really important to remember that there are over something like 2 million firearms registered in Hawaii - our community is actually not small at all.

We backed down the legislature with our voice - there’s a ton of us.  We could push back at the business level extremely hard (with aloha of course) if we choose to.

The Democrats decimated the small business community with their totalitarian covid response

Mom and pops are closing faster than they are opening. Even a small dip in numbers would turn the mini malls into ghost towns.

There's no economic wiggle room for enforced political stances.

The Democrats decimated the small business community with their totalitarian covid response

Mom and pops are closing faster than they are opening. Even a small dip in numbers would turn the mini malls into ghost towns.

There's no economic wiggle room for enforced political stances.

Exactly!

They are ALL hurtin bad.

Seems commies are rather poor at that whole “economics” thing.

Could have something to do with why they repeatedly get plowed under the soil to complete “the circle of life”, so to speak.

The Democrats decimated the small business community with their totalitarian covid response

Mom and pops are closing faster than they are opening. Even a small dip in numbers would turn the mini malls into ghost towns.

There's no economic wiggle room for enforced political stances.

This would be good testimony that every customer matters.

Don't forget to put up your PLACARD!!!!!

Don't forget to put up your PLACARD!!!!!

Perfect

Taser a Hawaii legislator - it’s good clean fun.

That is a shocking twist but a grand idea….

Don't forget to put up your PLACARD!!!!!

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Oh, I saw that on the news.
I used to work next door to that place.

Don't forget to put up your PLACARD!!!!!

Going off topic, but the vicitim had opportunity to grab the gun.  And at that time, the 2nd bad guy hadn't walked in yet.

No Beretta 92s? I better go with the S&W.

Revolvers ok.......

Revolvers ok.......

I think a case could easily be made that the sign is at ankle level, not eye level.  Hours of operation are one thing, but a sign that can get you arrested for a felony and have your 2A rights revoked ought to be afforded a bit more prominence.

I think a case could easily be made that the sign is at ankle level, not eye level.  Hours of operation are one thing, but a sign that can get you arrested for a felony and have your 2A rights revoked ought to be afforded a bit more prominence.

That's the first thing I noticed, and I told myself, "self", why is that placard placed so low, I hardly look down there.

And then I noticed their business hours are at that level also, LOL!

Again, people like me with bad attitudes toward hawaii's unconstitutional gun laws would think they are trying to set us up.

I think a case could easily be made that the sign is at ankle level, not eye level.  Hours of operation are one thing, but a sign that can get you arrested for a felony and have your 2A rights revoked ought to be afforded a bit more prominence.

Definitely.

My question is, how in the hell could this even be enforced?

They cannot conduct a body search for a lawfully concealed handgun, under any circumstances.

LE can, with probable cause, but if properly concealed, there is no probable cause.

On the other hand, violent criminals will see this and conclude they own every sheep in that there stall….

These totalitarian fiends will all burn, in the end.

They make criminals of the decent and law abiding, and do literally everything possible to shield and reward criminals who would slit their throats and rape their women in front of them.

They walk around with “Exterminate Me” written on their faces.

I wouldn't be surprised that these places include training of their employees on how to detect firearm printing, spotting, etc.

So they can notify Honolulu's Finest.

Good sheeple.  Nice sheeple.  You are a good boy! (panting.....)

Definitely.

My question is, how in the hell could this even be enforced?

They cannot conduct a body search for a lawfully concealed handgun, under any circumstances.

LE can, with probable cause, but if properly concealed, there is no probable cause.

On the other hand, violent criminals will see this and conclude they own every sheep in that there stall….

These totalitarian fiends will all burn, in the end.

They make criminals of the decent and law abiding, and do literally everything possible to shield and reward criminals who would slit their throats and rape their women in front of them.

They walk around with “Exterminate Me” written on their faces.

People detect concealed firearms all the time.  In the restroom where the gun owner is adjusting his clothes, in a dining room where someone gets a glimpse of the gun or holster -- or just the outline -- as the owner bent to sit which pulled their clothes tighter on their body, or in the parking lot as the owner transferred the weapon from the car where they like to have it handy to their holster as they stand in the car doorway (easier to holster a pistol while not sitting on the holster).  Then there's the paranoid staff members who are always scoping for unusual bulges where holsters are normally positioned so they can have the manager call 911.  If the employee was wrong, no harm, no foul,  Give the customer a comped meal or a few drinks, and the mistake is forgotten.  If they were right, instant employee of the month!   

Not printing isn't something that's permanent.  Just because you weren't printing when you last checked in a mirror doesn't mean your gun's outline isn't obvious for a brief instant while reaching for your wallet or bending to tie your shoe.

I wouldn't be surprised that these places include training of their employees on how to detect firearm printing, spotting, etc.

So they can notify Honolulu's Finest.

Good sheeple.  Nice sheeple.  You are a good boy! (panting.....)

I think it just means no more black-camo backpack, etc., off-body carry.

On body concealed like AIWB, etc. is the only way to go about your business if this passes, until it too is incinerated in the court system.

Definitely.

My question is, how in the hell could this even be enforced?

They cannot conduct a body search for a lawfully concealed handgun, under any circumstances.

LE can, with probable cause, but if properly concealed, there is no probable cause.

On the other hand, violent criminals will see this and conclude they own every sheep in that there stall….

These totalitarian fiends will all burn, in the end.

They make criminals of the decent and law abiding, and do literally everything possible to shield and reward criminals who would slit their throats and rape their women in front of them.

They walk around with “Exterminate Me” written on their faces.

It would be enforced if you use your firearm.  If you had a medical emergency and EMS does a search before taking  you to the hospital as that's their SOP, you have a medical emergency and your on the floor and your shirt is lifted up, if someone does a hold up and HPD interviews all patrons (law states you're required to notify them), etc....

Or say your detained for X reason after you leave in the parking lot or use your firearm in the parking lot or mall area outside. HPD interviews/interrogates you and you ask where else you've been to prior to this.  Or if you keep quiet as you should (5th amendment), an over zealous prosecutor reviews security cameras and at no time does it show you disarmed in your car.

It would be enforced if you use your firearm.  If you had a medical emergency and EMS does a search before taking  you to the hospital as that's their SOP, you have a medical emergency and your on the floor and your shirt is lifted up, if someone does a hold up and HPD interviews all patrons (law states you're required to notify them), etc....

All the more reason to not patronize those establishments displaying "WE ARE ALL VOLUNTARILY DISARMED" signs.