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macsak

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2026, 08:28:25 AM »
this is not proof...

It would be enforced if you use your firearm.  If you had a medical emergency and EMS does a search before taking  you to the hospital as that's their SOP, you have a medical emergency and your on the floor and your shirt is lifted up, if someone does a hold up and HPD interviews all patrons (law states you're required to notify them), etc....

Or say your detained for X reason after you leave in the parking lot or use your firearm in the parking lot or mall area outside. HPD interviews/interrogates you and you ask where else you've been to prior to this.  Or if you keep quiet as you should (5th amendment), an over zealous prosecutor reviews security cameras and at no time does it show you disarmed in your car.

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Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2026, 08:31:49 AM »
It would be enforced if you use your firearm.  If you had a medical emergency and EMS does a search before taking  you to the hospital as that's their SOP, you have a medical emergency and your on the floor and your shirt is lifted up, if someone does a hold up and HPD interviews all patrons (law states you're required to notify them), etc....

Or say your detained for X reason after you leave in the parking lot or use your firearm in the parking lot or mall area outside. HPD interviews/interrogates you and you ask where else you've been to prior to this.  Or if you keep quiet as you should (5th amendment), an over zealous prosecutor reviews security cameras and at no time does it show you disarmed in your car.
Sure I get that.

The last thing I will allow is for these stone-age communists to ruin my life via aggressive violation of my constitutional rights as an American citizen.

Which brings up a much larger and much more serious question:

How safe are you and your family here?

I mean seriously.

These fiends unambiguously see all residents here as subjects, vassals, without constitutional rights.

For example, on any day you can wake up and discover your property is now worthless due to some ordinance a lunatic has crafted under the influence of some demonic delusion, etc.

A seemingly endless train of examples of their contempt for U.S. law and property rights - going back decades, is all out there, we just don’t want to think about it.

But denial is no longer an option as we have watched this particular incident play out.

Time to wake up and smell they lawless tyranny.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2026, 08:50:19 AM »
It would be enforced if you use your firearm.  If you had a medical emergency and EMS does a search before taking  you to the hospital as that's their SOP, you have a medical emergency and your on the floor and your shirt is lifted up, if someone does a hold up and HPD interviews all patrons (law states you're required to notify them), etc....

Or say your detained for X reason after you leave in the parking lot or use your firearm in the parking lot or mall area outside. HPD interviews/interrogates you and you ask where else you've been to prior to this.  Or if you keep quiet as you should (5th amendment), an over zealous prosecutor reviews security cameras and at no time does it show you disarmed in your car.
i think the prosecutor would also need video or eye witness evidence that you were armed before entering the parking lot.  There's no need to disarm upon arrival unless you were armed before arrival.
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changemyoil66

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2026, 09:03:21 AM »
i think the prosecutor would also need video or eye witness evidence that you were armed before entering the parking lot.  There's no need to disarm upon arrival unless you were armed before arrival.

That's why it all depends on how far back the prosecution wants to trace your steps.  I have a friend with a business and if you park head first into the stalls infront his store, his cameras can see very clearly the driver and passenger seats.

So to elaborate on the last example, you left the gun free establishment and had to use your firearm in the parking lot or had a medical emergency in the parking lot outside of your car.  That means you must have been armed when leaving the business, thus armed when entering and while in there.

Even if there are no cameras that view inside your car, logic would dictate you were armed in the gun free establishment.  Now had you gone into your car first, one could say "i rearmed when I got back into my car".

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Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2026, 09:14:00 AM »
That's why it all depends on how far back the prosecution wants to trace your steps.  I have a friend with a business and if you park head first into the stalls infront his store, his cameras can see very clearly the driver and passenger seats.

So to elaborate on the last example, you left the gun free establishment and had to use your firearm in the parking lot or had a medical emergency in the parking lot outside of your car.  That means you must have been armed when leaving the business, thus armed when entering and while in there.

Even if there are no cameras that view inside your car, logic would dictate you were armed in the gun free establishment.  Now had you gone into your car first, one could say "i rearmed when I got back into my car".
Please don’t get me wrong guys - I’m not criticizing you in any way when I say

Free men should not have to have this conversation!

That’s it for me, Captain Obvious, today.
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macsak

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2026, 09:23:51 AM »
goalposts moved...

That's why it all depends on how far back the prosecution wants to trace your steps.  I have a friend with a business and if you park head first into the stalls infront his store, his cameras can see very clearly the driver and passenger seats.

So to elaborate on the last example, you left the gun free establishment and had to use your firearm in the parking lot or had a medical emergency in the parking lot outside of your car.  That means you must have been armed when leaving the business, thus armed when entering and while in there.

Even if there are no cameras that view inside your car, logic would dictate you were armed in the gun free establishment.  Now had you gone into your car first, one could say "i rearmed when I got back into my car".

changemyoil66

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2026, 11:49:17 AM »
Please don’t get me wrong guys - I’m not criticizing you in any way when I say

Free men should not have to have this conversation!

That’s it for me, Captain Obvious, today.

I agree.

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Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2026, 11:07:15 AM »
Separate but Absolutely Related with respect to the the f’ing fiends destroying the state:

Read this by A Kam Napier of Aloha State Daily

“Last week, I went off on the Legislature for House Bill 1636, which wanted businesses to pay $500 fines when their shopping carts are stolen and dumped. On Jan. 31, the House Committee on Economic Development and Technology held a hearing on the bill.

No one spoke in favor of it. It was opposed by Hawai‘i Food Industry Association, KTA Super Stores, and Retail Merchants of Hawai‘i.

It passed anyway, with seven ayes from Representatives Ilagan, Hussey, Holt, Tam, Templo, Yamashita and Gedeon.
Rep. Greggor Ilagan (D) seemed to be one of the bill's biggest champions, so on Feb. 2, I emailed his office to ask:

"If no one testified in favor, and the only people who participated in the democratic process spoke against the bill, what was the point of advancing it?  Seems to me, and probably seems to my readers, like that should have been the end of it. Genuinely interested in hearing more about how this happened."

I've received no reply.”

What happened next shows the existential threat to Hawaii these totalitarians have become - blows your mind

https://alohastatedaily.com/2026/02/03/pipikaula-corner-shopping-carts-ii-this-time-its-buy-back/

“This bill exists, and is being stubbornly defended over public opposition, because lawmakers absolutely will not name the actual culprits who steal and dump the carts and will not do anything about them. Worse still, this bill exists because these same lawmakers, who have failed to maintain any kind of law and order, know full well they will never recover from the homeless the cost of clearing out their stolen carts. The homeless don't have money.

But the businesses do.”




FASCISTS!
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QUIETShooter

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2026, 11:25:28 AM »
And then they get voted in again.  And again.  Forever and ever.  Amen.

Spot on about the homeless nomo money.  But we and the businesses struggling to survive do. :grrr:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

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Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2026, 11:40:05 AM »
And then they get voted in again.  And again.  Forever and ever.  Amen.

Spot on about the homeless nomo money.  But we and the businesses struggling to survive do. :grrr:
Right - it’s pretty interesting isn’t it.

Wonder how KTA (and all the rest) will feel next about being forced into the beef these totalitarians have with the Bill of Rights and the 2A, and their 2A customers?

Where’s their limit - will they ever stand up?

Truth is, the business community could ice (pun intended) these fuckers.
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Kalikikopa

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #50 on: March 08, 2026, 02:19:09 PM »
https://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii-lawmakers-to-consider-placard-program-for-firearms/article_17426102-d859-4096-9d01-b60205a5a673.html

The signs would be provided by the state and it would be illegal to operate a business without the placard. An organization against gun violence said although people have the right to carry a weapon, that could lead to more tragedies.

"This is about our local culture and we are now bending over backwards for an incredibly small proportion of the population who wants to carry a concealed weapon and wants to be able to do it wherever they want to, whenever they want to," said Chris Marvin, Everytown for Gun Safety. "They want to eat their meals with it. They want to shop with it. Look they can have guns, that's their second amendment right, but let's be responsible with it."

Legislators are expected to introduce more gun-related bills by the Wednesday deadline.


While reading this comment I question what statistics bear if you compare deaths by legal concealed carry permit holders, vs people getting hit by cars because they were looking at cell phones and walking into traffic. A firearm is a tool, just like a phone. Be consistent, Ban all cell phones.

QUIETShooter

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #51 on: March 08, 2026, 05:18:17 PM »
Don't ask.  Don't tell.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Rocky

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2026, 07:21:19 AM »
“  Legislature for House Bill 1636, held a hearing on the bill.
No one spoke in favor of it. It was opposed by Hawai‘i Food Industry Association, KTA Super Stores, and Retail Merchants of Hawai‘i.
It passed anyway, with seven ayes from Representatives Ilagan, Hussey, Holt, Tam, Templo, Yamashita and Gedeon.
'“This bill exists, and is being stubbornly defended over public opposition, ''

   The duties and responsibilities of a legislator are . . .
Lawmaking: Legislators are primarily responsible for creating, amending, and passing laws that address the needs and concerns of their constituents.
Representation: Legislators serve as representatives of their constituents. They act as a voice for the people who elected them and advocate for their interests. This includes understanding the concerns and needs of their constituents.
Constituent Services: Legislators provide assistance to constituents by addressing their concerns, answering inquiries, and assisting with issues related to government agencies and services.

 So if legislators are not addressing the needs and concerns of their constituents acting as a voice for the people who elected them and advocate for their interests or providing assistance to constituents by addressing their concerns, are they not violating their duties and responsibility's ?
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Westside_Redneck

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2026, 12:02:13 PM »
   The duties and responsibilities of a legislator are . . .
Lawmaking: Legislators are primarily responsible for creating, amending, and passing laws that address the needs and concerns of their constituents.
Representation: Legislators serve as representatives of their constituents. They act as a voice for the people who elected them and advocate for their interests. This includes understanding the concerns and needs of their constituents.
Constituent Services: Legislators provide assistance to constituents by addressing their concerns, answering inquiries, and assisting with issues related to government agencies and services.

 So if legislators are not addressing the needs and concerns of their constituents acting as a voice for the people who elected them and advocate for their interests or providing assistance to constituents by addressing their concerns, are they not violating their duties and responsibility's ?


We need to start pulling any connections we might have in government and begin digging up tangible evidence that would expose their corruption. Once the evidence has been gathered use VPNs and anonymous names to rat this info out to the department of justice, heck I would even say relay the info to Tulsi Gabbard as our Hawaii connection in the Federal Government right now. I know we are a "no snitch culture", but f@&% it, these @$$holes will rat on you for going armed into a business, I say its fair game at this point.

If we're not going to count on the people to turn on their brains, open their eyes and show up on voting day; then ratting our crooked government out to the Feds, with evidence we can fry them with, is our next best option outside of hitting the streets.

rpoL98

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #54 on: March 09, 2026, 02:54:00 PM »
where is Civil Beat when you need them?

elected representatives not representing, ignoring overwhelming testimony to pursue minority special interests.  This actually would be a good story, an exposé.

oh wait, doesn't fit the narrative.

oldfart

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2026, 03:42:05 PM »
Waipahu times market today

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What, Me Worry?

QUIETShooter

Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #56 on: March 09, 2026, 04:28:19 PM »
Waipahu times market today

Click pic.

Translation:  Criminals welcome.  Since you don't obey laws, bring guns, knives, whatever you want.  We love you and hope to see you soon.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

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Re: mandatory firearms placards coming
« Reply #57 on: March 09, 2026, 04:59:07 PM »
Translation:  Criminals welcome.  Since you don't obey laws, bring guns, knives, whatever you want.  We love you and hope to see you soon.
Perfect

Now they’re safe from us.
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