Governor Green is about to become King Green

They obviously have something truly horrible planned for us, but first they have to pass the tyranny package.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hawaii-bills-would-allow-govt-quarantine-people-enter-property-seize-firearms-suspend

God help us if this passes.

Mr. Heavy, maybe a better title for this thread is

Hawaii Plans for Statewide Concentration Camps - Full Suspension of Civil Rights

“The Hawaii Legislature is advancing companion legislation that would formally codify sweeping emergency powers for the governor and county officials—including authority to quarantine individuals, enter private property without consent, suspend laws, and seize control of infrastructure—under the justification of preparing for future disasters and disease outbreaks.”

This all happens at Green’s sole order ….

COVID WAS THE TEMPLATE

The legislation explicitly cites COVID-19 as justification for strengthening emergency authority, stating:

“The COVID-19 pandemic highlights the importance of clear legal frameworks for state and county emergency management to ensure that the State and counties are ready for any type of emergency.”

Sponsors & Bill Info





Read the article Mr. Heavy posted above, and

if 4-alarm fire alarms are not going off in your head here - WAKE UP AND SMELL DEVIL’S ISLAND, MR. PAPILLON

Oppose this with everything you got, or gtf off this rock!

Just a FYI, the firearm portion 127-14 (12) is already law.

God help us if this passes.

Well, since Supreme Soviet Green demands it, and both House and Senate are shoving it through, even if somehow it dies this session, it unambiguously screams out their intentions, and makes it impossible continue with any fiction that the people here are viewed as anything other than serfs and vassals by the ruling junta.

It confirms everything us conspiracy theorists believed about them during COVID.  They wanted their final solution to free men and women here so bad they could taste it.  Probably only the money guys held them back - you know, “bad for tourism” - back when they still gave a shit about that…

Just a FYI, the firearm portion 127-14 (12) is already law.

This appears to override the prohibition against firearm confiscation during emergencies they passed years ago - but did they already kill that?

My apologies, but I’m not sufficiently up to date on our various degrees of tyranny over time here, so don’t feel the need for much explanation - mahalo!

Just a FYI, the firearm portion 127-14 (12) is already law.

What was the point of that? Wait for a chicken to sneeze so they can start a civl war?

Can anyone say "Baaa......Baaaa....."?  If you can, you are hopeless.

The Scamdemic always was a control the masses exercise.   And it now has moved forward from social engineering experiment to a full on Fire Mission.

This bill is being read wrong and it limits the Governor's powers during emergencies.  The underlined portions are the changes, the rest is existing law.  This doesn't change firearms law.

You can tell since Elijah Pierick and 2 other repubs are bill sponsors.

This is the official website bill to read.  https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=2236&year=2026

This bill is being read wrong and it limits the Governor's powers during emergencies.  The underlined portions are the changes, the rest is existing law.  This doesn't change firearms law.

You can tell since Elijah Pierick and 2 other repubs are bill sponsors.

Hold on now - this is from the HD1 version, copied directly from the link. The bold is my edit:

“(12)  Except as provided in section 134-7.2, whenever in the governor's opinion, the laws of the State do not adequately provide for the common defense, public health, safety, and welfare, investigate, regulate, or prohibit the storage, transportation, use, possession, maintenance, furnishing, sale, or distribution of, as well as any transaction related to, explosives, firearms, and ammunition, inflammable materials and other objects, implements, substances, businesses, or services of a hazardous or dangerous character, or particularly capable of misuse, or obstructive of or tending to obstruct law enforcement, emergency management, or military operations, including intoxicating liquor and the liquor business; and authorize the seizure and forfeiture of any objects, implements, or substances unlawfully possessed, as provided in this chapter.”

In the Governor’s OPINION???

I don’t think it’s being read incorrectly at all.

This bill is being read wrong and it limits the Governor's powers during emergencies.  The underlined portions are the changes, the rest is existing law.  This doesn't change firearms law.

You can tell since Elijah Pierick and 2 other repubs are bill sponsors.

So the governor can send his goons on your property, take all your stuff and lock you up because he suspects you might have been exposed to something, and the “pushback” is to put a time limit on it and give 2/3 of the ledge veto power?

No wonder so many people don’t register their guns here. Now that I found out about this I don’t even want the government to know I have a rain barrel.

So the governor can send his goons on your property, take all your stuff and lock you up because he suspects you might have been exposed to something, and the “pushback” is to put a time limit on it and give 2/3 of the ledge veto power?

No wonder so many people don’t register their guns here. Now that I found out about this I don’t even want the government to know I have a rain barrel.

Now hold on son.

They just demand the unlimited authority to do these things.

It’s not like they would actually ever execute on it to the fullest extent possible when the spirit moves them.

Now let’s all get back to watching that fat couple on Island Life Live stuff their faces with stuff on TV, shall we?

So the governor can send his goons on your property, take all your stuff and lock you up because he suspects you might have been exposed to something, and the “pushback” is to put a time limit on it and give 2/3 of the ledge veto power?

No wonder so many people don’t register their guns here. Now that I found out about this I don’t even want the government to know I have a rain barrel.

Anyhoo, I guess all those protests of thousands of us in Waikiki during COVID - which were all explicitly NOT reported on by the local media, along with our 2A mobilization last year - clearly made a big impression…

The NON-UNDERLINED wording is EXISTING LAW currently in effect.  This legislative bill is changing the UNDERLINED WORDING to restrict the governor's current powers.

What everyone is complaining about in here is already current law, stuff that was passed in the legislature in prior years.  This was very bad and worthy of complaints.  But talk about the "UNDERLINED" sections of the law they are trying to change now.

These are instructions on how to read the bill properly:  https://lrb.hawaii.gov/par/overview-of-the-legislative-process/types-of-measures-bills-resolutions-messages/anatomy-of-a-bill/

Hold on now - this is from the HD1 version, copied directly from the link. The bold is my edit:

“(12)  Except as provided in section 134-7.2, whenever in the governor's opinion, the laws of the State do not adequately provide for the common defense, public health, safety, and welfare, investigate, regulate, or prohibit the storage, transportation, use, possession, maintenance, furnishing, sale, or distribution of, as well as any transaction related to, explosives, firearms, and ammunition, inflammable materials and other objects, implements, substances, businesses, or services of a hazardous or dangerous character, or particularly capable of misuse, or obstructive of or tending to obstruct law enforcement, emergency management, or military operations, including intoxicating liquor and the liquor business; and authorize the seizure and forfeiture of any objects, implements, or substances unlawfully possessed, as provided in this chapter.”

In the Governor’s OPINION???

I don’t think it’s being read incorrectly at all.

What you quote is existing law that is already currently in effect and passed a couple years ago. 

If you don't understand what I'm explaining.  Understand that I have the most knowledge of anyone in Hawaii on 2A legislative affairs for the past 10 years and the the most conservative republican in the legislature, Elijah Pierrick, who is very strict on voting for 2A, individual, and religious rights, sponsors and fully supports this bill being mentioned, along with 2 other Republicans.  They are trying to restrict the Governor's current emergency powers with this bill.  An OPPOSE testimony will allow more of the BAD THINGS TO HAPPEN.  A SUPPORT testimony will put some limits on the current emergency powers you are complaining about.

If you don't understand what I'm explaining.  Understand that I have the most knowledge of anyone in Hawaii on 2A legislative affairs for the past 10 years and the the most conservative republican in the legislature, Elijah Pierrick, who is very strict on voting for 2A, individual, and religious rights, sponsors and fully supports this bill being mentioned, along with 2 other Republicans.  They are trying to restrict the Governor's current emergency powers with this bill.  An OPPOSE testimony will allow more of the BAD THINGS TO HAPPEN.  A SUPPORT testimony will put some limits on the current emergency powers you are complaining about.

As Mr. Heavy referred to above - a nice underlined section:

“The governor or mayor shall proclaim the termination of a state of emergency or local state of emergency, respectively, at the earliest possible date that conditions warrant.
     (e)  The legislature may, by an affirmative vote of two-thirds of the members to which each house is entitled, terminate a state of emergency, in part or in whole, declared by the governor pursuant to this section.
     (f)  The county council may, by an affirmative vote of two-thirds, terminate a local state of emergency, in part or in whole, declared by the mayor pursuant to this section."

Very comforting indeed.

I absolutely acknowledge your technical point in general, and further acknowledge my fault in not knowing how f*^ked we actually were before this was called to our attention.

….but it all amounts to a distinction without a difference, my friend….

I don't trust the executive branch of hawaii's government and I don't trust the legislative branch of hawaii's government either.

I DON'T TRUST BOTH OF THEM AND HAVEN'T FOR DECADES.

To me they are one and the same.  Banana.

''Section 127A-2, Hawaii Revised Statutes, is amended by adding a new definition to be appropriately inserted and to read as follows:"

"Severe weather warning" means the issuance of a public notification by the National Weather Service, Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, United States Geological Survey, or other public authority, that a dangerous condition exists that could impact the State, or any portion of it, within a specified period of time.  "Severe weather warning" includes but is not limited to warnings of coastal inundation, high surf, flash flooding, volcanic activity, a tsunami, or a hurricane''


 "coastal inundation, high surf, flash flooding, volcanic activity," are common occurrence's here in Hawaii

The NON-UNDERLINED wording is EXISTING LAW currently in effect.  This legislative bill is changing the UNDERLINED WORDING to restrict the governor's current powers.

What everyone is complaining about in here is already current law, stuff that was passed in the legislature in prior years.  This was very bad and worthy of complaints.  But talk about the "UNDERLINED" sections of the law they are trying to change now.

These are instructions on how to read the bill properly:  https://lrb.hawaii.gov/par/overview-of-the-legislative-process/types-of-measures-bills-resolutions-messages/anatomy-of-a-bill/

This isn't perfect and should be significantly stricter.  But they have to present something that would be signed off by the governor or 2/3rds vote of the legislature.  This is just enough to possibly do that.

Currently there are no limits to emergency powers and it was vetted in the recent Hawaii supreme court ruling.  This bill is the only way to get some limits imposed other than a constitutional convention.