I just got off the phone with Sen. Ihara's office, the secretary who answered the phone explained that this was not written by the Senator but submitted by request from one of his constituents.  I explained my concerns with some of the wording (instant felon and lack of grandfathering) of certain sections as well as the bill it's self, she seemed pretty receptive and is expecting a ton of reaction from it.  She went on to explain that the Senator's policy is that when a bill is requested and written by a constituent that he submits them no matter his position on the issue, that's what the "by request" stamped next to the signature means. She also said that she believes it won't get much attention and feels it won't go to far because "not a lot of thought went into the writing of it".

This does not mean we should stop the relentless emails calls and letters, it seems that we already have a foot in the door but we can't stop there. We need to kick that door down and be as vocal as we can. I hope this helps to calm your nerves a bit but please don't stop making your voices heard.

While I think it's admirable what the senator is doing to represent his district, sometimes there needs to be a filter.  I know if I didn't have a filter between my brain and my mouth I would have been fired from my job a  long time ago.  Guess I'll be writing this weekend *sigh*, anyone got stamps?  Will trade Pmag for stamps - J/K. 

I just got off the phone with Sen. Ihara's office, the secretary who answered the phone explained that this was not written by the Senator but submitted by request from one of his constituents.  I explained my concerns with some of the wording (instant felon and lack of grandfathering) of certain sections as well as the bill it's self, she seemed pretty receptive and is expecting a ton of reaction from it.  She went on to explain that the Senator's policy is that when a bill is requested and written by a constituent that he submits them no matter his position on the issue, that's what the "by request" stamped next to the signature means. She also said that she believes it won't get much attention and feels it won't go to far because "not a lot of thought went into the writing of it".

This does not mean we should stop the relentless emails calls and letters, it seems that we already have a foot in the door but we can't stop there. We need to kick that door down and be as vocal as we can. I hope this helps to calm your nerves a bit but please don't stop making your voices heard.

thank you for doing this 

what can I do to help? I'm new to this and don't know what to do or say to anyone. I don't want to come off as a gun nut. I want to protect my constitutional rights

I'm in his district. I should submit a bill to make aerial fireworks, full auto weapons, and home made swipe legal.

Ahhh... I'm relaxing a little. Instead of being a sign of completely bastardizing what the legislature is for its actually a good sign that democracy still sort of works. Props to Sen. Ihara for that.

Not relaxing on the content of that bill, though. Thanks for the info, Lucas.

I just got off the phone with Sen. Ihara's office, the secretary who answered the phone explained that this was not written by the Senator but submitted by request from one of his constituents.  I explained my concerns with some of the wording (instant felon and lack of grandfathering) of certain sections as well as the bill it's self, she seemed pretty receptive and is expecting a ton of reaction from it.  She went on to explain that the Senator's policy is that when a bill is requested and written by a constituent that he submits them no matter his position on the issue, that's what the "by request" stamped next to the signature means. She also said that she believes it won't get much attention and feels it won't go to far because "not a lot of thought went into the writing of it".

This does not mean we should stop the relentless emails calls and letters, it seems that we already have a foot in the door but we can't stop there. We need to kick that door down and be as vocal as we can. I hope this helps to calm your nerves a bit but please don't stop making your voices heard.

so does that mean we can just send him a bill saying to allow CCW?  and he'll introduce it.

I was wondering about the absence of a grandfather clause.

Even California's gun control laws included a grandfather clause, didn't it?

Wouldn't a lack of a grandfather clause create an ex post facto law that criminalizes legal gun owners?

sure it would.  too bad new york already got away with that by banning pre ban magazines.

Dirsh. I'm new to all of this as well and have been learning a lot while researching the last couple weeks. One thing I can say is grassroots activism seems to be the best bet and that's exactly what we have going on here and throughout the country. It's really refreshing if you ask me, a month ago I didn't than tone gave a damn about anything. It's seems though the grabbers may have awaken a sleeping beast or at least I'd like to say so.

The best thing you can like I said earlier is to keep on em. Keep the emails, calls, letters or whatever flowing. If we constantly hound them they'll have no choice but to listen and speak on our behalf.

xer 21, there already is one. I was just reading it.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=274&year=2013

Forum thread (which includes other current pro gun bills): http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=5974.0;topicseen

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Nice, that ccw bill is written very well. Hopefully it passes.

Looks like a lot of good gouge here!

Did manage to speak with a few State Senators as well as a few friends in the local media (had to "spin" things a certain way to get them interested), it looks like this bill is starting to draw attention.   I also tried contacting Senator Ihara but he was no longer taking calls by that point.   We (what senators I did get hold of)  spoke about several issues regarding S.B. 219, in a nutshell the introduced bill will probably go to committee sometime after 24 Jan 13.   Be prepared to submit testimony any time after that date!

Some additional suggestion the contacted Senators:

Keep the pressure on Sen. Ihara, yeah it’s not “his” bill but he did introduce it.   Take a look at his Campaign contributors (big money contributors) as well; you may be able to figure out  who he’s introducing the bill for

Keep writing your Reps, Senators, Congressmen, etc. (I realize you all probably know that already).

Submit Testimony, well researched, logical testimony.

Watch the legislative calendar, be ready to speak up & stand up for what you believe in.   Hearing announcements are often deliberately released late at night or before a weekend to keep the opposition from rallying.
 
And most of all the obvious, stay cool and try to keep emotions out of the equation (very hard for me to do), a cool head, sticking to the issues, and providing facts will often pay off.   Stay positive & focused.

Again I’m probably stating the obvious but just knowing this bill has been noticed and IS NOT sneaking by really helped me through the day


Ahui hou, See you all tomorrow!

Boomah

I just got off the phone with Sen. Ihara's office, the secretary who answered the phone explained that this was not written by the Senator but submitted by request from one of his constituents.  I explained my concerns with some of the wording (instant felon and lack of grandfathering) of certain sections as well as the bill it's self, she seemed pretty receptive and is expecting a ton of reaction from it.  She went on to explain that the Senator's policy is that when a bill is requested and written by a constituent that he submits them no matter his position on the issue, that's what the "by request" stamped next to the signature means. She also said that she believes it won't get much attention and feels it won't go to far because "not a lot of thought went into the writing of it".

This does not mean we should stop the relentless emails calls and letters, it seems that we already have a foot in the door but we can't stop there. We need to kick that door down and be as vocal as we can. I hope this helps to calm your nerves a bit but please don't stop making your voices heard.

Maybe we should ask him to introduce something for us??

Agreed. Someone write up what we want and have him submit.

Agreed. Someone write up what we want and have him submit.

Maybe a right to carry law or something like that.

Or like the other states who will not comply with unconstitutional fed law (cough)

Like N.C.
http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/01/first-in-the-nation-beaufort-county-nc-passes-gun-law-nullification-resolution/


First in the Nation: Beaufort County, NC Passes Gun Law Nullification Resolution
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While a number of states are currently considering legislation to nullify federal gun laws, rules, acts, orders and regulations, and various sheriffs around the country are issuing notice that they will not enforce any such federal laws, a new grassroots undercurrent could be building to support those efforts. Local governments nullifying unconstitutional federal acts.

Today, Beaufort County, North Carolina became the first in the country to do so. The board of commissioners passed a nullification resolution in support of the 2nd Amendment. The vote was unanimous. The resolution reads, in part:

    The Beaufort County Board of Commissioners calls upon the Governor and General Assembly of the State of North Carolina to immediately pass an act to nullify the implementation within the State of North Carolina of any Federal law, executive order or regulations restricting the right to keep and bear arms

It continues, and makes clear that the County will play no supporting role to the federal government in attacks on the 2nd Amendment:

    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, the County Manager be directed to see that no county paid staff participate in nor allow any county resources be used in the implementation of any Federal law, executive order or executive directive that infringe on the right to keep and bear arms

Enthusiasm from the community was high. Representatives from the North Carolina Tenth Amendment Center reported that the “room was packed” to the point that the crowd was “overflowing out into the hall.” Two local tv stations were on hand to report as well.

All politics is local? Correction. All successful politics are local.

LEGISLATION AND TRACKING:

Get model legislation for introduction in your state or local community here:
http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2ndamendmentpreservation

Track the status of 2nd Amendment preservation legislation here:
http://tracking.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2ndamendment

Interesting.  I tend to take people at face value, but. . .

Anyways, then someone from his district should request an opposing bill and see how that goes if that's the case.

This.  Somebody from his district needs to find a copy of a fairly restrictive state's shall-issue concealed carry permit process and submit it.

This.  Somebody from his district needs to find a copy of a fairly restrictive state's shall-issue concealed carry permit process and submit it.

Since a Shall Issue bill is already in the pipeline, I was thinking something to do with Hawaii's registration policies.  But there are probably better proposals to try than that. 

TN, WY, TX and a few others have proposed legislation to stop or not enforce federal gun control policy in their state.  Not sure how effective it would be though.  Here's one article.  I can dig up a few more if people are interested. 

http://tennessee.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/01/hb-0042-filed-to-stop-federal-gun-control-in-tennessee/

Man can you imagine the possible impact it would have if Hawaii passed a wont comply law. Dream come true, it would make everyone think twice.

Since a Shall Issue bill is already in the pipeline, I was thinking something to do with Hawaii's registration policies.  But there are probably better proposals to try than that. 

TN, WY, TX and a few others have proposed legislation to stop or not enforce federal gun control policy in their state.  Not sure how effective it would be though.  Here's one article.  I can dig up a few more if people are interested. 

http://tennessee.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/01/hb-0042-filed-to-stop-federal-gun-control-in-tennessee/

Yeah, reading through the thread again I see that, not only is there already a bill in the works, but it was discussed on this very thread.  Sometimes I just get too excited, and, well... you know.  I swear, that's never happened to me before!