EPA going to ban lead bullets? (Read 5832 times)

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EPA going to ban lead bullets?
« on: August 27, 2010, 05:04:50 AM »
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Will Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson make a back door move to ban lead bullets the day before the November 2 elections?

Several environmentalist groups led by the Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) are petitioning the EPA to ban lead bullets and shot (as well as lead sinkers for fishing) under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA). Although EPA is barred by statute from controlling ammunition, CBD is seeking to work farther back along the manufacturing chain and have EPA ban the use of lead in bullets and shot because non-lead alternatives are available. But here's the catch: the alternatives to lead bullets are more expensive. A ban on the sale of lead ammunition would force hunters and sport shooters to buy non-lead ammunition that is often double the cost of traditional lead ammunition.  A box of deer hunting bullets in a popular caliber could be upwards of $55.

Although the EPA could have dismissed the request due to a lack of jurisdiction, it is obliging CBD. The EPA has asked for public comment on banning lead in ammunition, and an EPA notice was published seeking public comment that closes on October 31. Jackson would then make a decision to accept or reject the petition on November 1. You might say that even considering enacting what is effectively a new tax on hunters and gun owners--seemingly the only non-liberal group the Obama administration hasn't yet intentionally provoked--is less-than-perfect timing for the already beleagured Democrats as the midterm elections approach.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), a trade association for the firearm and ammunition industry, has hit back against the petition sending Jackson a letter documenting why EPA has no jurisdiction and outlining the damage that banning lead ammunition would do to U.S. industry and jobs, conservation, and law enforcement. The NSSF estimates that more than 90 percent of hunters and sport shooters use traditional lead ammunition. If all hunters were forced to buy non-lead bullets that are made out of metals like tungsten, bismuth, and copper alloys, demand could easily begin to outstrip the supply and prices would go even higher.

Bill Clinton famously blamed the NRA and gun owners for sweeping Democrats from control of the House in 1994 after he pushed them to pass the Assault Weapons Ban. For Democrats, especially those in rural and conservative districts that are already facing voters’ wrath, gun control could once again be an issue that helps defeat them and swings control of the House and perhaps even the Senate to the GOP.
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Re: EPA going to ban lead bullets?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2010, 11:01:33 AM »
I guess they are at it again. Can't get the guns so they'll go after the ammo!
Where can we write the petition/comment?

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Re: EPA going to ban lead bullets?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2010, 12:52:50 PM »
The EPA rejected the ban.

The Environmental Protection Agency has denied a petition filed by environmental activists seeking to ban lead in ammunition and fishing tackle, saying such regulation is beyond the agency's authority.

The agency's decision, announced Friday shortly after FoxNews.com published its report on the issue, sided with hunters and fishermen who had argued that the such regulations weren't allowed under the Toxic Substances Control Act of 1976.

"EPA is taking action on many fronts to address major sources of lead in our society, such as eliminating childhood exposures to lead," the agency said in a written statement. "However, EPA was not and is not considering taking action on whether the lead content in hunting ammunition poses an undue threat to wildlife."
I am not a lawyer.

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Re: EPA going to ban lead bullets?
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 03:58:21 PM »
Good news!

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Re: EPA going to ban lead bullets?
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2010, 08:06:03 PM »
I have heard it's still on.  ???
Well here is where we can write.
http://www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/home.html#submitComment?R=0900006480b3974b

Even if they did drop the issue, at least they can document the outrage of hunters, target shooters, and fishermen.

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Re: EPA going to ban lead bullets?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 03:46:10 PM »
I haven't seen anything that says it's still on. Do you have any links?
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Re: EPA going to ban lead bullets?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 04:33:21 PM »
You are right 2a. The information I found must have been outdated.

Per NRA email,
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Responding to a grassroots outcry from gun owners, the Environmental Protection Agency today announced that it has denied a petition by the Center for Biological Diversity and other radical groups that had sought to ban the use of lead in ammunition.

Agreeing with the position of the NRA and the firearms industry, the agency explained in a news release that it "does not have the legal authority to regulate this type of product under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA)."  Further crushing the hopes of anti-gun and anti-hunting activists, the release added: "nor is the agency seeking such authority."
The EPA is still holding an open public forum because of the fishing sinker issue..
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Because the EPA has no power to regulate ammunition, it will not move ahead with a public comment period on the petition.  However, a comment period will remain open until September 15 on the other part of the petition, which asks EPA to ban the use of lead in fishing sinkers. 

I guess I was getting a little jumpy. :wacko:
As it is I can hardly afford to go shoot. If we had to buy non-lead bullets, I might as well put up my guns, save my current stockpile of lead for intruders and such, and learn how to golf.  :P
Might want to help out out fishing brethren, otherwise going fishing would be out the door too.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2010, 04:45:56 PM by Heavies »

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Re: EPA going to ban lead bullets?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 04:34:51 PM »
But wait.  I probably get sued for giving the bad guy lead poisoning! >:D

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Re: EPA going to ban lead bullets?
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2010, 02:22:39 PM »
But wait.  I probably get sued for giving the bad guy lead poisoning! >:D

If he survives to get lead poisoning, you didn't shoot him enough in the first place.  :P
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