Birds at kokohead (Read 11919 times)

dirsh

Birds at kokohead
« on: February 14, 2013, 11:55:42 AM »
Those things are fearless! I've seen them casually walk between the firing line and the targets while everyone is shooting, rifle and pistols side. What would happen if someone shot one?
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OGC

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 12:00:16 PM »
a puffy cloud of floating feathers?

or...


SQUAK!!!!!

dirsh

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2013, 12:22:57 PM »
lol
would they get in trouble?
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Teichi

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2013, 12:31:55 PM »
Depending on the type bird. The worst case is arrest for felony killing of a protected or endangered animal, prison time, fines, confiscation of all your firearms, and all the other niceties of a felony conviction.

Inspector

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2013, 12:35:28 PM »
Sy the RO told me they are protected and it is a $500 fine for killing one. He told me if he catches you killing one he will kick you out of the range. BUT. Only if you kill it on purpose. If it flies in behind your target and you kill it by accident he won't kick you out but he will give you a hard time about it. All I can say is the carcass better be lined up with your line of sight/shot.
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Teichi

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2013, 12:46:16 PM »
Per Wiki, "The penalties for these violations can be a maximum fine of up to $50,000 or imprisonment for one year, or both, and civil penalties of up to $25,000 per violation, may be assessed....In addition to fines or imprisonment, a license, permit, or other agreement issued by a Federal Agency that authorized an individual to import or export fish, wildlife, or plants may be revoked, suspended or modified. Any federal hunting or fishing permits that were issued to a person who violates the Endangered Species Act can be canceled or suspended for up to a year."

Teichi

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2013, 12:52:39 PM »
The other consequence may be that tree huggers will demand the range to be closed until procedures to protect the wildlife are implemented.

Calling cease fire every time a bird enters the no fly zone?

Just don't shoot the birds!

drck1000

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2013, 01:00:05 PM »
I thought those white birds were protected.  I've seen a guy get kicked out of the bullseye range for shooting one of them. 

Those cats are fearless too.  I've been there when a couple of them woke up from a nap or something and came out from the right side berm, about at the 50 yard mark and just took a slow stroll over to the RO shack. . . when the line was hot!  No one was shooting at the cats, but they were shooting over them.  One even walked right under my bench as I was shooting.  Scared the shat out of me. 

Hi state

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2013, 01:01:14 PM »
I'm pretty sure those white egret birds are not endangered let alone native to Hawaii

Inspector

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2013, 01:09:18 PM »
I'm pretty sure those white egret birds are not endangered let alone native to Hawaii
You are absolutely correct. They are not endangered. There are millions or billions of Cattle Egrets all around the world. But, here in Hawaii they are protected. And it is a large fine for killing one.
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jaynick

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2013, 01:32:50 PM »
I thought those white birds were protected.  I've seen a guy get kicked out of the bullseye range for shooting one of them. 

Those cats are fearless too.  I've been there when a couple of them woke up from a nap or something and came out from the right side berm, about at the 50 yard mark and just took a slow stroll over to the RO shack. . . when the line was hot!  No one was shooting at the cats, but they were shooting over them.  One even walked right under my bench as I was shooting.  Scared the shat out of me.

yea those cats are beyond deaf. they probably developed tinnitus and hear a constant ringing

GZire

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2013, 01:40:08 PM »
What?  How come no one is sticking up for the chickens?!! What's wrong with you mofos..............chickens are birds too and deserving of our protection!!!

Inspector

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2013, 01:43:12 PM »
What?  How come no one is sticking up for the chickens?!! What's wrong with you mofos..............chickens are birds too and deserving of our protection!!!
Chicken = YUM!!!  :D
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808shooter

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2013, 01:53:28 PM »
how would you prove it was a specific person?

if you raise your hand and say "yea i shot the bird" you deserve to be fined.

i'm not saying go shoot birds, i'm jus say'n

Inspector

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2013, 02:02:43 PM »
how would you prove it was a specific person?

if you raise your hand and say "yea i shot the bird" you deserve to be fined.

i'm not saying go shoot birds, i'm jus say'n
Basically, you can't prove it was any one particular person. I have seen birds killed out there and Sy gets mad and yells over the PA system but I have never seen anyone get the blame for shooting an egret with one exception. My wife killed one of them. She was totally unaware the bird landed right behind her target and was lined up perfectly with her line of sight/shot. After she killed it Sy came over and told me what she had done. I looked over and saw the bird carcass and every time she shot at her target the carcass did a little dance.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

He told me he she was not to blame under the circumstances.
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Teichi

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2013, 02:20:14 PM »
Chicken = YUM!!!  :D
Free Range Chicken. No tainting by antibiotics or steroids. Only lead.

drck1000

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2013, 02:24:08 PM »
What?  How come no one is sticking up for the chickens?!! What's wrong with you mofos..............chickens are birds too and deserving of our protection!!!
I've never seen the chickens go too far beyond the benches.  They always seem to hang out under my car though. 

sworbeyegib

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2013, 02:48:56 PM »
Like people have said already, if it's an honest mistake, theres no real blaming of anyone.  But those are very far and few between.

Protected, endagered, endemic... all reasons to not shoot some of the birds.

But really, ethically, you shouldn't be needlesly killing something you dont have any reason too.

If its not a legal game bird in a legal area...
If you aren't protecting property/crops...
Then why kill it?

GZire

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2013, 03:17:54 PM »
how would you prove it was a specific person?

if you raise your hand and say "yea i shot the bird" you deserve to be fined.

i'm not saying go shoot birds, i'm jus say'n

If you are shooting next to "The Guy" then you know.

fstbckgt

Re: Birds at kokohead
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2013, 03:27:57 PM »
Today was a particularly bird filled day at the range. All the chickens were going off until the range opened and the egrets were down range in force.