Women in Combat (Read 7513 times)

Bunker

Women in Combat
« on: February 14, 2013, 06:25:16 PM »
Wouldn't want to be the poor guy relying on her. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

sliver

Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 06:36:07 PM »
she isnt even aiming.  at least she will be able to drag your 250 lb body back to safety if you get shot...

Hi state

Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2013, 06:47:30 PM »
She can't even shoot a 870 I doubt she can pull 250 pounds

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Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2013, 07:06:08 PM »
one of my grandpas friends is retired firefighter.  dont even get him started on this topic and equal opportunity employment for females.

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Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2013, 04:15:52 AM »
Is this for real.  I can't believe it.  Everyone in that vid needs a chewing out.
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Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2013, 07:35:45 AM »
Is this for real.  I can't believe it.  Everyone in that vid needs a chewing out.
For what?  Not throwing her off the range?  I agree, but then they'd have just ended up being the subjects of an EO complaint.
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Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 07:48:18 AM »
She could be going into the service as a photographer.................just sayin'.  Also I think she shoots better than some of the HPD fellas............again just sayin'.

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Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2013, 08:40:16 AM »
She could be going into the service as a photographer.................just sayin'.  Also I think she shoots better than some of the HPD fellas............again just sayin'.
If you want to be a photographer, you need to be able to shoot photos.  If you want to be in the military, you need to be able to shoot guns.  If you want to be a military photographer, you need to be able to shoot both! 
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Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2013, 10:47:23 AM »
Plenty of men look the same way on the range the first time they shoot a weapon. Many people enter the armed services having never fired a weapon in their lives.

They weren't showing her proper stance at all. She's way too far back and her body is unable to absorb the recoil effectively. If you shot a 12 gauge like that it would hurt, too. That she's getting hurt is the fault of her instructors.

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Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2013, 11:41:31 AM »
It's called "confidence."  When I went through the confidence course at Lackland AFB (aka "Obstacle Course"), I was with a flight of officer candidates from ROTC units.  We were all about 20-21, rising juniors in college. 

We ran the course with a couple of flights of BMT's (Basic Military Trainees) -- new recruits mostly out of high school.  One of our female cadets climbed the 30ft tower made of telephone poles spaced horizontally about 4 ft apart.  You had to go on the outside of a pole, then the inside of the next, as you climbed to the platform at  the top, then use a rope to climb down the other side.   She was all of 5-feet-nothing and 105 lbs.  This young guy next to me was watching her climb.  He had to be 6'2" and 170 lbs.  As he stared up while she climbed like a monkey, I heard him say, "I can't do that!"

Nothing on the course was overly tough, but each one had specific rules to make you follow directions.  No ingenuity/cheating allowed!

What I saw in the video was someone lacking confidence - afraid of making a mistake, and giggling from nerves.  She appears to have been taught she doesn't have to do anything she isn't comfortable with.  I see it all the time.  Hopefully the trainers will build her confidence through repetition and patience.  I've seen good people wash out of basic just because they couldn't handle being told they are doing something wrong every 10 minutes.  That's part of the training.  I would rather someone wash out under artificial pressure than when the S#!% hits the fan!

Just my unprofessional opinion!!  :geekdanc:
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Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2013, 12:20:00 PM »

They weren't showing her proper stance at all. She's way too far back and her body is unable to absorb the recoil effectively. If you shot a 12 gauge like that it would hurt, too. That she's getting hurt is the fault of her instructors.
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Exactly. The so-called "instructor" did not do his job. It does not seem as though she had any pre-range instruction. Anybody with any experience could see immediately that her shooting stance is wrong. I was waiting for the "instructor" to correct her stance but he never did. Very poor performance by the "instructor".
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Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2013, 12:52:11 PM »
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Exactly. The so-called "instructor" did not do his job. It does not seem as though she had any pre-range instruction. Anybody with any experience could see immediately that her shooting stance is wrong. I was waiting for the "instructor" to correct her stance but he never did. Very poor performance by the "instructor".

+1 Things have dramatically changed since my active duty days. Instructors here looked like they didn't even care and who knows, maybe they were incompetent to begin with, and her lackadaisical attitude would have never flew in my days. Unprofessional in all aspects. When I was in there would be hell to pay for any inkling of taking firearms training this lightly and unprofessional. Obviously as oldfart said, she must have had poor pre-range instruction to begin with. If these instructors are any indication, I would suspect the whole training regiment, not just firearms, was probably just as poor. Not the military I remember for sure!
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clshade

Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2013, 02:06:15 PM »
+1

Made me wonder if it really is a military trainee. Looks like a guy in jeans in the background at one point.

Bunker

Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2013, 02:16:25 PM »
+1

Made me wonder if it really is a military trainee. Looks like a guy in jeans in the background at one point.

Made me wonder too. ???

Lifer

Re: Women in Combat
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2013, 05:35:33 PM »
Although its really no exuse, this has to be very old video; Woodland BDU's, the Kpot and LBE gear went out of inventory a LONG time ago.

 Depending on branch, this gear was out averaging 5-10 years ago. Along with the gear going out, shooting tactics and instruction have changed a lot.

You still get Soldiers whom have never touched a weapon prior to military service and are downright scary.
 I'll never forget the time in Iraq that  I kicked turret gunner in the helmet when he fell asleep on the gun, woke up and then muzzle flagged an entire convoy with a M249, finger on the trigger( we were at a halt)  :wacko:

The women in combat topic ; no comment, I'm old school Infantry and have nothing very positive to say.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2013, 05:43:10 PM by Lifer »