Came in to look at some guns 14 March, came back to buy 15 March, price was up 50.00 apparently because the exact gun I was looking at was sold, thus the one that replaced it was 50.00 higher.  Owner got REAL HEATED REAL FAST, explaining "we dont bullshit here, the price you see is the price of the gun".  He didnt care that I was there 17 hours prior, and loved talking over me at a much higher tone.  Guy went from a 0 to a 100 degrees in a matter of seconds, was very erratic, and emotional.

Tempers like that dont belong in a gun store, its not necessary.  If the guy woud have listened to my story and came off the price some he would have had my business for years. 

Also saw him publicly scold an employee (for no reason) who was providing excellent service and did nothing wrong but ask if I could approach the counter.  I didnt like what I saw, and wont be coming back.  Notice no anger or profanity (other than the quoted statement" in my post.  Its called rationality and maturity.  Learn it.  Stuff works well with dealing with firearms.  You lost my business over 50.00. 

BTW Dan and Gus are awesome, Dan provides sound and technical knowledge about guns, Gus is just as willing to help a customer out. 

Welcome to the world of buying guns.

OGC marks up their guns the same way that most stores do.

Cost plus allotted profit margin.

If the "same" gun comes in and cost them $50 more then the cost is passed on to the consumer.

You should have pulled the trigger on your purchase when it was cheaper.

You snooze, you lose.

As for losing your business...

I'm sure the owner of OGC is going to regret not losing money to some whiner.

Get over it.

You won't get anyone kissing your ass there.  Or anywhere.  They are fair with their prices.  Case in point, a rifle I was going to buy was $150 LESS than it was a week before I actually bought it.  When I mentioned it, they explained that they sold the one I was looking at, but the next one that came in they got at a lower price.  Give them another shot, you will be the one missing out if you.  As far as the way he treats his staff, he doesn't use baby gloves but I think it's because they're selling guns, not frozen yogurt.  My $.02.

Came in to look at some guns 14 March, came back to buy 15 March, price was up 50.00 apparently because the exact gun I was looking at was sold, thus the one that replaced it was 50.00 higher.  Owner got REAL HEATED REAL FAST, explaining "we dont bullshit here, the price you see is the price of the gun".  He didnt care that I was there 17 hours prior, and loved talking over me at a much higher tone.  Guy went from a 0 to a 100 degrees in a matter of seconds, was very erratic, and emotional.

Tempers like that dont belong in a gun store, its not necessary.  If the guy woud have listened to my story and came off the price some he would have had my business for years. 

Also saw him publicly scold an employee (for no reason) who was providing excellent service and did nothing wrong but ask if I could approach the counter.  I didnt like what I saw, and wont be coming back.  Notice no anger or profanity (other than the quoted statement" in my post.  Its called rationality and maturity.  Learn it.  Stuff works well with dealing with firearms.  You lost my business over 50.00.

Interesting and unfortunate but wasn't me.. I've been out with respiratory infection all week.  Must have been Eric?  Brown hair medium build?  I'm the owner, Carter, the big scruffy one.  We're still sanding off Eric's rough edges.  Over twenty years of military service in the field and I think like 7 deployments don't really prepare you for a life of ass kissing and retail shmoozing as your first civilian job.  This is generally the point where I try to be all accommodating but I'm coughing up a lung and can't muster the energy. 

As far as I can tell, you are more upset at the tone then the price, which I can understand.  Our prices are set percentage over cost.  As we have to buy guns fr every distributor known to man just to
Keep the shelves full we pay sometimes significant variations in price from different sources or even just at different times.  The prices quoted are for that gun at that time.  You chose not to buy it, someone else did.  Best of luck in your search.

Also, considering this is our section of the forum that we have complete control over, I'm wondering why I don't just delete it, but felt you deserved an answer.

Came in to look at some guns 14 March, came back to buy 15 March, price was up 50.00 apparently because the exact gun I was looking at was sold, thus the one that replaced it was 50.00 higher.  Owner got REAL HEATED REAL FAST, explaining "we dont bullshit here, the price you see is the price of the gun".  He didnt care that I was there 17 hours prior, and loved talking over me at a much higher tone.  Guy went from a 0 to a 100 degrees in a matter of seconds, was very erratic, and emotional.

Tempers like that dont belong in a gun store, its not necessary.  If the guy woud have listened to my story and came off the price some he would have had my business for years. 

Also saw him publicly scold an employee (for no reason) who was providing excellent service and did nothing wrong but ask if I could approach the counter.  I didnt like what I saw, and wont be coming back.  Notice no anger or profanity (other than the quoted statement" in my post.  Its called rationality and maturity.  Learn it.  Stuff works well with dealing with firearms.  You lost my business over 50.00.

You complaining over $50.00.  How old are you, 21 or something? 

Hope you feel better soon, Carter.

You won't get anyone kissing your ass there.  Or anywhere.  They are fair with their prices.   As far as the way he treats his staff, he doesn't use baby gloves but I think it's because they're selling guns, not frozen yogurt.  My $.02.

Why I love OGC, NO BS. 

I have never had a bad experience at OGC.  They price things fairly and have been extremely helpful in picking out guns and ammo.   The interchange between Carter and the staff is a bit like a sitcom....

The interchange between Carter and the staff is a bit like a sitcom....

Exactly how I see it. Entertainment should I have to wait for help or paperwork.

in my case the rifle I wanted went up in price $125 more, so I spent $60 more on top of that and went with a different model.... worked out great for me cause its a major tack driver!!!! 4 shots to sight in and was shooting 1-1.5 moa, even ragged the same hole after 10 shots..... my first time shooting a bolt action 308....

thanks to Dan and Eric the beast is rocking!!!!

on a side note Carter told me to get ammo cause prices may go up... this was back in November early december and he saved me tons of money..... picked up couple cases of different caliber rounds and now everyone else paying 2x what I paid... GREAT ADVICE!!!! when they say to buy I buy.....

everyone has a bad day... try again, these guys are super cool as they always answer all my lame questions with a smile or chuckle... but hey it's all good, everyone needs a laugh through out the day.....

always remember to laugh and smile....

You complaining over $50.00.  How old are you, 21 or something?

I don't think age has anything to do with it..I am 22, I like saving money. If I was 33 I would still like to save money, if I was 104 I would still like to save money.


However, I have had nothing but good experiences with ogc.

  especially in this economy every cent counts, that's why OGC is for me.
 

get well soon, "big scruffy one"
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Interesting and unfortunate but wasn't me.. I've been out with respiratory infection all week.  Must have been Eric?  Brown hair medium build?  I'm the owner, Carter, the big scruffy one.  We're still sanding off Eric's rough edges.  Over twenty years of military service in the field and I think like 7 deployments don't really prepare you for a life of ass kissing and retail shmoozing as your first civilian job.  This is generally the point where I try to be all accommodating but I'm coughing up a lung and can't muster the energy. 

As far as I can tell, you are more upset at the tone then the price, which I can understand.  Our prices are set percentage over cost.  As we have to buy guns fr every distributor known to man just to
Keep the shelves full we pay sometimes significant variations in price from different sources or even just at different times.  The prices quoted are for that gun at that time.  You chose not to buy it, someone else did.  Best of luck in your search.

Also, considering this is our section of the forum that we have complete control over, I'm wondering why I don't just delete it, but felt you deserved an answer.

OGC is top notch in my book. Getting a little bent about the tone, I can kinda understand.  Price however, especially in today's environment, I don't get.

It's a business that requires strict attention to detail . One mess up could cost them the company. If you are crying over 50 bucks you should really change your sport to basket ball lol .

Ogc staff are great,I don't mind payin a bit extra to keep local company in business!

I don't think age has anything to do with it..I am 22, I like saving money. If I was 33 I would still like to save money, if I was 104 I would still like to save money.


However, I have had nothing but good experiences with ogc.

When I was young it was all about the bottom line number.  I put up with a lot of BS to get the price.

Now it's about the service and the honesty, I'll pay more for up front guys and good quality stuff.  So for me it was about age.

BTW............$50, really man?  You lucky there is stuff.  4 years ago all the shelves were barren, we are lucky someone came into Hawaii and changed the business model. Those who don't keep up are getting left behind.

It's a business that requires strict attention to detail . One mess up could cost them the company. If you are crying over 50 bucks you should really change your sport to basket ball lol .

soccer maybe cheaper..... LOL