Handgun safety course (Read 15504 times)

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2013, 09:49:05 PM »
It's a friend of a friend who lets you fire multiple handguns during the class.  Semi-autos, revolvers, single actions, double actions, heavy hitters.  You'll get to fire a plethora of handguns, and ammo is included.  That's one thing I enjoyed about his class, I got to fire at least 6-10 different guns of all styles and calipers.

 But it WON'T be $80 and the affidavit WON'T be done the same day. 

 You'll get to sample all kinds of handguns, which you can't do when purchasing. 

If interested I will pass it on.  No offense, i just would prefer not to send him low ballers who don't realize what is entailed in his class.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2013, 09:53:48 PM »
It's a friend of a friend who lets you fire multiple handguns during the class.  Semi-autos, revolvers, single actions, double actions, heavy hitters.  You'll get to fire a plethora of handguns, and ammo is included.  That's one thing I enjoyed about his class, I got to fire at least 6-10 different guns of all styles and calipers.

 But it WON'T be $80 and the affidavit WON'T be done the same day. 

 You'll get to sample all kinds of handguns, which you can't do when purchasing. 

If interested I will pass it on.  No offense, i just would prefer not to send him low ballers who don't realize what is entailed in his class.  :thumbsup:

The 100 would be fine, before you pass on the info, how long will it take to get the affidavit
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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2013, 08:47:13 AM »
Hard to make money charging $80 for a NRA class.  Costs about $50 or so just to break even + range fees + notary.

I calculated it out to about $33 + notary not including ammo...........nowadays $50 might be low when you factor the ammo in.

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2013, 04:40:09 AM »
I calculated it out to about $33 + notary not including ammo...........nowadays $50 might be low when you factor the ammo in.

After you factor in your gas cost, ammo cost and pay yourself minimum wage, $80 to $100 is the break even point for an instructor.
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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2013, 05:30:46 AM »
The 100 would be fine, before you pass on the info, how long will it take to get the affidavit

Try Peter Abraham. My sister, brother-in-law, and some work friends took his class for $100/ea a few weeks ago. They picked up the their affidavit the next day.

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2013, 06:13:14 AM »
yup
if you teach the required number of hours, there's no way the instructor makes much at all
and that's discounting the setup and cleanup time
and the time driving to/from the range
classes run by shops can be a "loss leader" to drive people to the stores

After you factor in your gas cost, ammo cost and pay yourself minimum wage, $80 to $100 is the break even point for an instructor.

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2013, 07:08:39 AM »
After you factor in your gas cost, ammo cost and pay yourself minimum wage, $80 to $100 is the break even point for an instructor.
When I took the NRA Instructor course, there was an exercise on developing the fee for a class and even if you offered the students the bare minimum guns to shoot (as required by law in Hawaii) that $100 was on the low end if you could spread your expenses out across many classes.  Not sure if those instructing on their own carry insurance, but that is a good chunk of money to cover the premiums. 

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2013, 07:52:31 AM »
People paying $100.00 are probably getting a $100 dollar instructor - just saying.   If someones lowballing, I bet the quality of their class suffers.
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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2013, 09:43:14 AM »
After you factor in your gas cost, ammo cost and pay yourself minimum wage, $80 to $100 is the break even point for an instructor.

I didn't even think about factoring my time in.  Good point.

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2013, 09:44:42 AM »
People paying $100.00 are probably getting a $100 dollar instructor - just saying.   If someones lowballing, I bet the quality of their class suffers.

This is a good point if someone is making a living doing this, but is not necessarily the case.  HDF days/Fun Shoots are free?  That doesn't mean your folks classes are garbage.  I personally know of three guys who've volunteered time who are very good trainers.

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2013, 10:33:15 AM »
The only way you can get that price is if you bring your own ammo.  Shooting for 2 hours gets expensive.

Let me know. I might know someone who will do it if you bring your own ammo.
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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2013, 11:15:12 AM »
This is a good point if someone is making a living doing this, but is not necessarily the case.  HDF days/Fun Shoots are free?  That doesn't mean your folks classes are garbage.  I personally know of three guys who've volunteered time who are very good trainers.

I apologize, I'm not really referring to the people who "volunteer" to do this type of stuff for organizations. I'm talking more large organizations, LIFE, HDF, OGC, Young Guns etc.  I'm teaching four - five classes a month  + range day so easily 30-40 students a month. In May, we will have seven classes scheduled.   It's a lot easier to volunteer for a day to do something, at that point, most of us don't really care - it's just fun and a day away helping people.  Change that around to where every weekend day of your month is dedicated to training and educating and the equation quickly spins around lol.

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2013, 01:55:46 PM »
^^^I hear you man.  I've done classes before and come to the conclusion it's only for friends/family in the future.

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2013, 03:13:06 PM »
^^^I hear you man.  I've done classes before and come to the conclusion it's only for friends/family in the future.
I teach with LIFE.  I've also done the class for friends before and from now on, it's only for family and close/select friends. 

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2013, 08:30:21 PM »
After you factor in your gas cost, ammo cost and pay yourself minimum wage, $80 to $100 is the break even point for an instructor.

Plus taxes too.  Uncle same gotta get his cut.

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Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2013, 02:07:49 AM »
Plus taxes too.  Uncle same gotta get his cut.


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Kingkeoni

Re: Handgun safety course
« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2013, 06:45:24 AM »
People paying $100.00 are probably getting a $100 dollar instructor - just saying.   If someones lowballing, I bet the quality of their class suffers.

$100 is not necessarily low balling.

Depends on a lot of factors.

If you've got a few people in a class, you can afford to do it for $100 a piece.

If its just 1 person receiving instruction, $100 just pays for time, supplies and ammo.
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Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.