i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option! (Read 20132 times)

ren

Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2013, 09:23:13 PM »
I think you might get more bang for your buck spending $50 at the strip bar than spending it on a cheap, Chinese made red dot optic.  The proven, good red dots like Aimpoint, REAL EOTech and the like cost more than your present budget. I'd look at used posts for a set of MagPul MBUSs. I saw a vendor at this past weekend's gun show with what seemed like real LMT sights for $40.
Most of us were in the same situation as you were. I pissed away $ on cheap sights. I'd pit my iron sights against those cheap red dots any day. I had my fair share of Simmons spotting scopes, Simmons rifle scopes, Tasco scopes, Weaver, Leupold, Trijicon, EOTech, Aimpoint and Kowa. I no longer own any Simmons or Tasco scopes.  There's no comparison to cheap optics. I had awesome service from Kowa when I dropped my spotting scope. I never needed service from the other brands. They were repeatable and reliable. That's the reason they are a bit more than your $50 scope. I'm not trying to sell you anything, just trying to pass on my lessons learned.
In optics you get what you pay for. If you want sh!t you don't need to pay for it.

anyways, somethings to consider: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/206233_The_big_bad_BUIS_FAQ____Page_1_updated_on_8_4_2006_.html
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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2013, 09:30:24 PM »
Honestly, I would just buy some inexpensive iron sights first.

Wait till you have a little money to buy a better optic as opposed to getting one that will just fail/break.

+1  Buy once cry once

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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2013, 05:03:50 AM »
Yes. Eotechs and Aimpoints are not "cheap". Sorry if I mislead you. However, you paid good money for your AR, so I believe you should try to buy quality accessories as much as possible.  May take longer to save up the money, but you won't regret it.

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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2013, 06:39:27 AM »
Honestly, I would just buy some inexpensive iron sights first.

Wait till you have a little money to buy a better optic as opposed to getting one that will just fail/break.

+1. Learn to walk before trying to run. Or as Confucius once said, "Master the thing before upgrading with bling".  Go with MBUS sights if you're just a weekend warrior who shoots only from the bench and want something reliable and accurate. If you are resourceful, you can probably find a set (not airsoft ones) for under $100.

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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2013, 04:41:33 PM »
go look at primary arms all my guns have their red dot sights and are pretty good for the price
+1 for Primary Arms.  Cannot beat the price/quality ratio.

I also agree if you are new to rifles, learn to use iron sights first. 

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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2013, 06:46:31 PM »
+1. Learn to walk before trying to run. Or as Confucius once said, "Master the thing before upgrading with bling".  Go with MBUS sights if you're just a weekend warrior who shoots only from the bench and want something reliable and accurate. If you are resourceful, you can probably find a set (not airsoft ones) for under $100.

or, if you look on amazon, you can EASILY find them for just north of 50.

someone sold magpul MBUS for 100?

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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2013, 11:59:27 AM »
This is kinda off topic but I was wondering if there are any ar15s that are of good quality that I can get for under $750.
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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2013, 12:42:38 PM »
This is kinda off topic but I was wondering if there are any ar15s that are of good quality that I can get for under $750.

You have to wait until next year when the gun-ban craze subsides.  Even the low grade stuff and plastic receivers are expensive from the dealers.

It's not really about the cost of the rifle anyways, the amount of ammo that you shoot out of it will always cost several times more than the cost of the rifle.

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« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2013, 01:31:12 PM »
This is kinda off topic but I was wondering if there are any ar15s that are of good quality that I can get for under $750.

i dont think there are any bad qualtiy AR's out around right now for 750.

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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2013, 01:56:56 PM »
I think you should find some good irons first, but the Bushnell TRS-25 is a good affordable red dot.  I have a absolute co-witness on my AR and I have no problems with it.  I eventually want to move to an Aimpoint or Eotech, as you do get what you pay for, when it comes to optics.

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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00200E0HM/?tag=2ahawaii-20

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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2013, 04:54:13 PM »
I think you should find some good irons first, but the Bushnell TRS-25 is a good affordable red dot.  I have a absolute co-witness on my AR and I have no problems with it.  I eventually want to move to an Aimpoint or Eotech, as you do get what you pay for, when it comes to optics.


I have the TRS-25 and like it a lot.  I've seen it on amazon for $69 - $99 depending on which way the wind blows.    Red Dot really helps if you're over 40 or are eyesight challenged.

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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2013, 04:56:54 PM »
This is kinda off topic but I was wondering if there are any ar15s that are of good quality that I can get for under $750.

Start a new thread. And you will get answers.  :stopjack:
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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2013, 09:13:19 PM »
you should start doing some in depth research before you buy.

Aimpoint and Eotech are two of the most recognizable names and are definitely quality, but there are other less expensive options that will still give you a quality optic.  stuff like Burris and Vortex sights will come in at lower price points and i've heard they are good sights, and if you feel adventurous, looking at eastern european optics might get you something you'll like for a cheaper price too.

as far as those Russian/Belorussian optics go, they are a lot of nice options for less money, with the only caveat that, while cheaper, they are usually a bit rougher and less full featured.  they are however usually built like tanks, which is great, because i'd imagine getting yor warranty work done is a pain in the ass.


but shop around, you might find something you like that will suit your needs, if you arent dead set on an aimpoint or something.


where would i find these russian optics your speak of? idk where to search or what to search for. cant find anything. i was looking at an NCstar mark III tactical 2-7x scope. idk though i heard mix things

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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2013, 10:19:57 PM »
When only cops have guns, it's called a "police state".

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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2013, 07:06:52 AM »
Burris MTAC or Leupold VX-R Patrol.  Both are 1-4x scopes with illuminated reticles that will allow you to stretch your AR's legs on the longer shots, and crank down to 1x (1.25x for the Loopy) to function basically like a red dot for your super duper tacticool high speed fastrope flashbang adventures.  I have the Leupold, and I love it. 
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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2013, 07:48:29 AM »
The title says: Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2013, 08:40:57 AM »
The title says: Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
I understand your angle on this but unfortunately good sights don't equate to cheap. There are some irons that cost a lot more than magnified optics, that's because reliability and repeatability are two factors that are difficult to produce for  <= $50 Most of the advice here is sound - save the $50 towards an optic that the OP will keep in the long run.
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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2013, 08:48:37 AM »
"Inexpensive" is relative.  If the OP didn't want opinions on the best use of his funds, he could have gone on Amazon and just grabbed the cheapest red dot or BUIS they list.  They have a bunch for under $50!

From OP's first post:  " im looking to spend no more than $50".  Maybe he should re-title this thread to:  "What's the best AR sight $50 (or less) can buy?"
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Re: i just bought my first AR...no sights. Need inexpensive option!
« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2013, 09:12:12 AM »
I think you might get more bang for your buck spending $50 at the strip bar than spending it on a cheap, Chinese made red dot optic.  The proven, good red dots like Aimpoint, REAL EOTech and the like cost more than your present budget. I'd look at used posts for a set of MagPul MBUSs. I saw a vendor at this past weekend's gun show with what seemed like real LMT sights for $40.
Most of us were in the same situation as you were. I pissed away $ on cheap sights. I'd pit my iron sights against those cheap red dots any day. I had my fair share of Simmons spotting scopes, Simmons rifle scopes, Tasco scopes, Weaver, Leupold, Trijicon, EOTech, Aimpoint and Kowa. I no longer own any Simmons or Tasco scopes.  There's no comparison to cheap optics. I had awesome service from Kowa when I dropped my spotting scope. I never needed service from the other brands. They were repeatable and reliable. That's the reason they are a bit more than your $50 scope. I'm not trying to sell you anything, just trying to pass on my lessons learned.
In optics you get what you pay for. If you want sh!t you don't need to pay for it.

anyways, somethings to consider: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/206233_The_big_bad_BUIS_FAQ____Page_1_updated_on_8_4_2006_.html


I've seen quite a few real Eotechs eat it and die including my personal one.

Conversly I used a TASCO Propoint when playing paintball in all kinds of conditions (given no recoil) for years and never had it fail.

So, not all cheap dots are junk and not all expensive sights are good, that being said no issues ever with my Aimpoints.