Curious - Do you offer them to non LEOs?
 

Sorry, We don't sell them to Civilians.  We are only selling it to Military and LE at the moment.

Sorry, We don't sell them to Civilians.  We are only selling it to Military and LE at the moment.

LE i understand but Why would you sell it to military? They cannot use non-issued mags when they deploy! It's just like selling them to civilians....

LE i understand but Why would you sell it to military? They cannot use non-issued mags when they deploy! It's just like selling them to civilians....

Not quite true. It depends on the appearance and reliability of the 30 round mag used. Aluminum 30 rounders that look exactly like and function reliably are OK. P-Mags are allowable. If my magazines don't feed properly, don't lock the bolt back when empty and don't fall free when the mag release is pressed, they get crushed or sold for scrap aluminum.

It is my understanding as well that the military does not allow the use of Pmags.

It is my understanding as well that the military does not allow the use of Pmags.

They are issued in OEF.

They are issued in OEF.

Exactly.... They are issued. You don't buy them and take them along. I've been in the national guard for 17 years and we have never been allowed to bring our personal mags. It has to be issued. What's fair is fair, if you're selling them to military you should be selling them to civilians. It's the same thing. If you're going to restrict it, restrict it to LEO only...

I used my pmags in Helmand its commanders discretion.  And Im sure he mean military orders meaning unit supply ordering the PMAGs you shouldnt feel slighted.

Exactly.... They are issued. You don't buy them and take them along. I've been in the national guard for 17 years and we have never been allowed to bring our personal mags. It has to be issued. What's fair is fair, if you're selling them to military you should be selling them to civilians. It's the same thing. If you're going to restrict it, restrict it to LEO only...

Wow 17 years! 3 more till retirement? Anyhoo, but isn't it difficult to tell what was issued and what was bought? GI aluminum 30s are rather common - and aren't they considered expendable items?
Checkmate M9 mags were issued but were known for weak springs, thus soldiers would opt for the Beretta ones - either as gifts or scrounging around in supply. PMAGs were suspended for a short period but it was really over an ill-worded TACOM message.  Brownells was the contract holder for the aluminum mags with the new tan follower and one can order them online. http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/06/07/army-now-says-no-ban-on-rifle-magazines.html

Wow 17 years! 3 more till retirement? Anyhoo, but isn't it difficult to tell what was issued and what was bought? GI aluminum 30s are rather common - and aren't they considered expendable items?
Checkmate M9 mags were issued but were known for weak springs, thus soldiers would opt for the Beretta ones - either as gifts or scrounging around in supply. PMAGs were suspended for a short period but it was really over an ill-worded TACOM message.  Brownells was the contract holder for the aluminum mags with the new tan follower and one can order them online. http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/06/07/army-now-says-no-ban-on-rifle-magazines.html

Yep 3 more years. I'm counting the hours. The mags are still somewhat accountable but you can turn them in for a new one if defective. As far as pmags I'd rather have them because I hate the aluminum ones. Magpul gen 3 mags were created to be the exact same specs as the colt ones. Don't know if they succeeded. I have a bunch of gen 3 mags. I like them better than my gen 2's.

Yep 3 more years. I'm counting the hours. The mags are still somewhat accountable but you can turn them in for a new one if defective. As far as pmags I'd rather have them because I hate the aluminum ones. Magpul gen 3 mags were created to be the exact same specs as the colt ones. Don't know if they succeeded. I have a bunch of gen 3 mags. I like them better than my gen 2's.

Somewhat accountable? I've seen boxes of magazines tossed in the dumpster. Some still new in the plastic or box. Command emphasis is what determines the accountability of magazines. Some unit SOPs requires 7 magazines to equate the 210 round basic load. Other units don't issue them at all unless there is an actual need to fire your weapon (weapon qual).

 I've also gone to qualification ranges and live fire exercises where Soldiers are not allowed to load their issued magazines. This usually means they never function test the ones they carry for real missions. I've even seen malfunctions with P-Mags - failure to feed or failure to drop clear of the mag well. The bottom line is test your stuff out for reliability unless you just want to be a tacticool glam.

But going back to the subject - Security Equipment has a policy to sell  30 round AR mags to only LEO and Military only and if you don't like it you can go to OGC or dumster dive.

But going back to the subject - Security Equipment has a policy to sell  30 round AR mags to only LEO and Military only and if you don't like it you can go to OGC or dumster dive.

I'm just pointing out that military personal are not exempt from the HRS. If something is illegal for civilians it is also illegal for military personal while at home station. Some stores fail to understand that military personal, at home, have the same rights and rules as normal people. They should not be afforded LEO privileges, they are not LEO.

It's like those bench made switchblade knives that was issued. If you carry them here and get caught with it you will get arrested.

I'm just pointing out that military personal are not exempt from the HRS. If something is illegal for civilians it is also illegal for military personal while at home station. Some stores fail to see the difference between the two.

It's like those bench made switchblade knives that was issued. If you carry them here and get caught with it you will get arrested.

It is a store policy that we only sale to LE and Military for AR hi caps.  The decision was based on HPD ruling on the matter. We know that its a huge grey area and for the safety of our customer we don't sale it to civilians. We can suggest a few shops that will sale it to you if you wish to buy them. 

^^^I respect your policy however 30 round mags are not hi-caps, they are standard.

Hi-caps are 60/90 round mags.

Standards are actually 20 rounds the initial magazine designed for the AR platform was in fact 20 rounds which is why in current legislation the 30 round magazines are considered high-caps its a game of semantics I believe 30s to be standard because that’s what Ive always used but technically they aren’t.

^^^I respect your policy however 30 round mags are not hi-caps, they are standard.

Hi-caps are 60/90 round mags.

Standards are actually 20 rounds the initial magazine designed for the AR platform was in fact 20 rounds which is why in current legislation the 30 round magazines are considered high-caps its a game of semantics I believe 30s to be standard because that’s what Ive always used but technically they aren’t.

So 20's are standard use in military and LEO now or 30's?

So 20's are standard use in military and LEO now or 30's?

30 rounders were the result of the US wanting to keep up with Mr. Kalashnikov's 30 round AK-47. 30 rounders have been standard issue since the late 70's.

There are gun manufacturers that sell AR platform rifles with 10, 20, or 30 round magazines, but "standard use" is 30.

See again this is where the whole semantics thing comes into play they are infact standard issue for military and LE but they weren’t always the first AR platform magazines mass produced were 20 rounders the magazines for the prototype testing were only 10 rounders. They started producing 30 rounders because people were running out of ammunition in Vietnam shooting on full auto and needed a higher capacity magazine so they would carry fewer magazines with the same or more ammunition. So technically they are considered High caps for now Military and LE I don’t agree with that but I understand the shops policy based on that

It is a store policy that we only sale to LE and Military for AR hi caps.  The decision was based on HPD ruling on the matter. We know that its a huge grey area and for the safety of our customer we don't sale it to civilians. We can suggest a few shops that will sale it to you if you wish to buy them. 

I think the question was answered and this is the vendors section. But what do I know. 

It come down to Interpretation of the law by the store at witch there policy is based on. That's there write! So be it. 
And yes there are a few other stores that will sell you high capacity 30 plus round mags, you can always go there.