HMSA had a question about firearm ownership in a health survey years ago

I don't know if Snopes has a bias or not, but they're certainly not the end-all, be-all of truth and virtue.  It's not a crack team of forensic investigators working among the stacks at the Library of Congress, it's a husband and wife duo searching the internet.  I don't consider them any more reliable than anyone else who purports to tell me the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. 

When we apply for a permit, we sign a medical waiver.   I've always assumed the HPD sends a note to my doctor saying something like "Should X be prohibited from owning a firearm?".  So, they know already...

This is all part and parcel of the government wanting to eventually classify gun ownership as a sign of mental illness.

Ive been "sick" for years, enjoying every moment of it. 

Ive been "sick" for years, enjoying every moment of it. 

 

And your "sickness" has absolutely nothing to do with guns.

 

No guns.... just tools to protect me against tyranny.....

Do you think I can call in sick tomorrow? I mean I'll be at the range so it wouldn't be lying

"Hell no Doc.  It's not in my house.  It's in my pocket, where it's safe."

"Hell no Doc.  It's not in my house.  It's in my pocket, where it's safe."

 

how's about-
"i refuse to answer on the grounds i may incriminate myself"

No guns.... just tools to protect me against tyranny.....

I would just say no, but if you really do and since in Hawaii police DO know, you couldn't get in trouble right...

I would just say no, but if you really do and since in Hawaii police DO know, you couldn't get in trouble right...

Not really.  If I'm reading their signals right, the doctor would have to receive your "red flag" answer (Yes, I own guns) coupled with a risky diagnosis (You are suffering from deep depression over your dog running away).  They would then report you to HPD, who would then come ask politely for your guns while their armed backup stands in your doorway.

However, if you say "No guns, Doc," then the report should not be sent, and hence no trigger to initiate an official HPD house call.

That's how I THINK it's designed to work.  I could be wrong, since my brain is wired more logically than the typical Liberal politician's!   

Several variations that letter have been floating around months. It's always someone going in for something routine and the question comes up. Then on follow up questions, everyone is conveniently related to or knows an 'authority figure' (DHS, FBI, Sheriff etc.) who gave the advice to keep a loaded gun.

So....

how's about-
"i refuse to answer on the grounds i may incriminate myself"

If you're going to refuse to answer (regardless of who asks), then keep it simple and say "I refuse to answer that" or "It's none of your business".  That additional statement implies that firearms ownership is criminal and we all know it's not.

"Sure, you wanna buy a few?"

that's why i put the smiley
http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/grin.gif

If you're going to refuse to answer (regardless of who asks), then keep it simple and say "I refuse to answer that" or "It's none of your business".  That additional statement implies that firearms ownership is criminal and we all know it's not.