Schatz vs Hanabusa (Read 10878 times)

BUD

Schatz vs Hanabusa
« on: April 24, 2013, 02:35:28 PM »
Anyone got anything to say about the impending showdown between Schatz and Hanabusa for the Senate seat?  I do.  No and No! 
It is what it is.

Bunker

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013, 02:37:40 PM »
Anyone got anything to say about the impending showdown between Schatz and Hanabusa for the Senate seat?  I do.  No and No!
Yup

macsak

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013, 05:33:02 PM »
schatz and hanabata
dumb and dumber

Yup

bass monkey

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 05:39:29 PM »
Did they both vote yes for the amendments?

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Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013, 06:26:21 PM »
I vote for neither.  Garbage will get my vote on this one!
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Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013, 06:31:02 PM »
Schatz vs Hanabusa,  Isn't that when you accidentally shit your pants when you sneeze?

Bunker

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2013, 06:51:51 PM »
Schatz vs Hanabusa,  Isn't that when you accidentally shit your pants when you sneeze?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

kevlar

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2013, 08:33:24 PM »
One dumbass versus another dumbass. We the people lose.

I hate the hopeless political climate in Hawaii. If only we had Texas or Oklahoma's Republican majorities.

BUD

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2013, 09:07:16 PM »
One dumbass versus another dumbass. We the people lose.

I hate the hopeless political climate in Hawaii. If only we had Texas or Oklahoma's Republican majorities.

What if Lingle gets in the mix again?  Schatz and Hanabusa have to compete for the Dem spot.  Who will the republican be?
It is what it is.

GZire

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2013, 07:40:53 AM »
Yeah...........it's like choosing diarrhea or stuck doo doo...........both are crap and you don't want either one.

Bunker

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2013, 08:01:54 AM »
Yeah...........it's like choosing diarrhea or stuck doo doo...........both are crap and you don't want either one.
:rofl: Perfect analogy!

lippy laroux

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2013, 08:34:37 AM »
Can we run a Conservative against them?   I would run but I dont want to live in DC.

TeamMidori

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2013, 08:54:03 AM »
I like this. I think I may use it in the future...

Yeah...........it's like choosing diarrhea or stuck doo doo...........both are crap and you don't want either one.

clshade

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2013, 11:20:03 AM »
Might want to rephrase this one into a larger context:

Haole vs. Kepani vote. And I mean politically, not racially. If you live here and don't know what I mean you aren't paying attention.

New Guard or Old Guard?

The passing of Inouye could represent the fading of influence that the 101st/442nd has had on Hawaii since statehood. This is a BIG DEAL. Is the Haole voting populace large enough to start chipping away at the established "tradition" or not?

Schatz may not be a great candidate for a lot of specific reasons, but in general he represents a willingness to break from business as usual here in Hawaii. Doesn't mean a break, just a willingness to shift things. Which way they shift is still up for grabs - and may or may not be a good thing. Hanabusa represents an allegiance to the Old Guard ideology.

Its a whole new world, folks. Whether you liked Inouye or not he was a Titan in the Senate and the greater political ideology that he represented has more or less defined Hawaii since Statehood. It been like air: so pervasive that you don't even realize it is there until it moves.

It will be interesting to see which way things go.

bass monkey

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2013, 11:29:28 AM »
Ah, possibly a new era of democrats.  Maybe next time we look at the people running for office all the "D"s not going have Japanese last names

GZire

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2013, 01:09:26 PM »
................Schatz may not be a great candidate for a lot of specific reasons, but in general he represents a willingness to break from business as usual here in Hawaii. Doesn't mean a break, just a willingness to shift things. Which way they shift is still up for grabs - and may or may not be a good thing. Hanabusa represents an allegiance to the Old Guard ideology.................


Schatz was Chairman of the Democratic Party in Hawaii.  I don't view him as a shift, merely the latest in a long line of status quo.  The only questions is which pocket gets the $$$ now.

clshade

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2013, 02:21:38 PM »

Schatz was Chairman of the Democratic Party in Hawaii.  I don't view him as a shift, merely the latest in a long line of status quo.  The only questions is which pocket gets the $$$ now.

Sure. It would not be a ~potential~ shift at if Big Dan was still here. You did ~not~ cross swords with Big Dan and live. Who do you think was defining 'status quo?'

Whether anyone decides to break out of the mold remains to be seen. The only thing that has changed is that it is possible now and never has been before.

clshade

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2013, 02:24:23 PM »
Oh- the other things that shifts is that Big Dan was a good investment. If you had money and needed something done for it Big D had the clout to get it done.

That no longer exists. And that means the $$$ is likely to go elsewhere.

Agree with Big D or not this means less $$$ to Hawaii. Senators from other states have been waiting for this moment for a looooooong time.

macsak

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2013, 03:58:45 PM »
here's another thing ti think about
all those people who say "obama is from HI and will be helping us"
look at federal funding that the relative to our population- it is very low
even with the ranking senator doing all he can to funnel money to the state
another reason not to like the pres
and one more thing to think about now that sen dan is dead

Oh- the other things that shifts is that Big Dan was a good investment. If you had money and needed something done for it Big D had the clout to get it done.

That no longer exists. And that means the $$$ is likely to go elsewhere.

Agree with Big D or not this means less $$$ to Hawaii. Senators from other states have been waiting for this moment for a looooooong time.

Jl808

Re: Schatz vs Hanabusa
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2013, 05:19:56 PM »
The old lion has died. The new lions are vying for the old lion's top spot. Whether you liked the old lion or not, none of the young ones have the clout or the guts that the old one had.... The old one wore shoes that none of the new ones could fill.

The republicans should not run more than 1 candidate against these 2. No sense splitting their votes too.
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