Here is the application....not sure if the forms have been updated or not.

The application has changed, it's only 1 page and allows for only one handgun. Also, there are no questions....those are covered on different forms. I took a pic of it...I'll try to post it.

Quote from: Bunker on April 28, 2013, 09:59:00 PM

Here is the application....not sure if the forms have been updated or not.

The application has changed, it's only 1 page and allows for only one handgun. Also, there are no questions....those are covered on different forms. I took a pic of it...I'll try to post it.

Does the form look like this?

http://ag.hawaii.gov/cjd/files/2013/01/2010-Application.pdf

LEOSA

I figured that out just now ...   

No, it's only one page.

Almost forgot, on the back was the section where you can tell Kealoha why you need/want a CCW permit.

I was thinking that putting the text of the 2nd amendment *should* be sufficient, no?

I'm curious as to what's the "qualification score".

(b)  The chief of police of each county shall adopt procedures to require that any person granted a license to carry a concealed weapon on the person shall:

    (1)  Be qualified to use the firearm in a safe manner;

     (2)  Appear to be a suitable person to be so licensed;

     (3)  Not be prohibited under section 134-7 from the ownership or possession of a firearm; and

     (4)  Not have been adjudged insane or not appear to be mentally deranged.

I was thinking that putting the text of the 2nd amendment *should* be sufficient, no?

For applicants in some mainland states which require a "reason," the recomended response is "for all lawful purposes."   FWIW

I know someone who appeared to be a suitable person...

This person also did not appear to be mentally deranged...

So I married her. Damn appearances.

The issuing Chief of Police can set minimum proficiency requirements for issuing a carry permit.  My assumption is you have to go to the range and demonstrate you can properly use the firearm.  Your qualification score will have to meet whatever minimum standard they set.

For an anti-2A police chief I think that would be a safe assumption.

I think the pro-2A person would cite the fact that you are required to take a safety course in order to acquire the pistol anyway and that should satisfy the requirement.

Anyhow, unless the chiefs are forced into acting differently..............

As a pro-2A person, I believe the CCW holder should show proficiency.  Taking a 3-hour classroom and 2 hour hands on introductory course does not substitute for actual skill and practice.  The military didn't do that.  We had the training, and THEN we had to qualify.  Training does not equal proficiency ... that needs to be measured and evaluated.