I remember a legislator, Sam Slom, introduced a bill for Open Carry (I think) a few years ago but that didn't get far. Need more conservative and 2A friendly politicians in office.

so i was thinking with all these denials wouldnt this be at some point a legal matter like discrimination. so if we all applied got denied made a class suit questioning the situation brought it to national media embarresed the crap out the city saying why is the citizens being denied a lawful act with in this state or even viewing who has been approved might even prove a case. and how is outta all of us on here no ones a damn attorney???  can we get some to join the ranks please!

I think it would be interesting to have some local news station interview chief kealoha and ask him why they deny everybody and what circumstances have to be fulfilled to issue a permit.  Funny how its up to someone else if your life is important and you should be able to defend it

so i was thinking with all these denials wouldnt this be at some point a legal matter like discrimination. so if we all applied got denied made a class suit questioning the situation brought it to national media embarresed the crap out the city saying why is the citizens being denied a lawful act with in this state or even viewing who has been approved might even prove a case. and how is outta all of us on here no ones a damn attorney???  can we get some to join the ranks please!

There already are/have been cases.  Current is Baker v. Kealoha.

The issue, in part, is that the yearly AG's report comes out and says "4-5" citizens applied. I can't recall where it was said, but on one occasion the Chief replied that CCW wasn't a big issue since only a few people applied. I think it would be much more difficult to so easily dismiss the CCW issue if hundreds of folks applied. Furthermore, assuming none of those "hundreds" that applied got a permit, it would make any subsequent argument that it wasn't a big deal moot.

I know that Chris had tried this before, but I think to be successful, we'd need to have a system in place where "we" (whoever that might be...) kept track of who submitted applications, along with encouraging folks to digitally record their application (take a picture with your phone before submitting it...) so that we know the actual numbers and can challenge the AG report if it tries to under-report the number of applications submitted.

The issue, in part, is that the yearly AG's report comes out and says "4-5" citizens applied. I can't recall where it was said, but on one occasion the Chief replied that CCW wasn't a big issue since only a few people applied. I think it would be much more difficult to so easily dismiss the CCW issue if hundreds of folks applied. Furthermore, assuming none of those "hundreds" that applied got a permit, it would make any subsequent argument that it wasn't a big deal moot.

I know that Chris had tried this before, but I think to be successful, we'd need to have a system in place where "we" (whoever that might be...) kept track of who submitted applications, along with encouraging folks to digitally record their application (take a picture with your phone before submitting it...) so that we know the actual numbers and can challenge the AG report if it tries to under-report the number of applications submitted.

I'm in...next time I have to stand in line, I'll submit one.