Any of these work for me:
February 3-5 for Carbine1 and 7-9 for Handgun1
 
February 10-12 for Carbine1

Thanks for the efforts so far!

I originally voted for "higher than basic" level handgun or carbine since I've taken Level 1 (basic) and Level 2 (Combat/Advanced) courses already from a couple other trainers/schools. That said, if the courses are to be offered on Oahu, I would probably be down for Carbine 1.

i got 3 non-2ahawaiimembers for the second set of dates

I just posted the second date because it's further from SHOT.  Can go with either.

I just noticed this thread.

Tentative interest from me for the second set of dates (I think Feb 10 onwards?). No can do earlier in Feb.

I also need to know "final final" cost, all in, ammo etc. (net total cost).

I see that there is a 2 day downtime between carbine and handgun. I would rather have it back to back UNLESS it was on Oahu OR we have some other training for those 2 days.

Let's do this! I voted for the 2nd set of dates.

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I see that there is a 2 day downtime between carbine and handgun. I would rather have it back to back UNLESS it was on Oahu OR we have some other training for those 2 days.

I understand the desire to have the classes back to back, especially from a logistics stand point where one would have to fly to the neighbor island.  However, if one hasn't been throught these types of firearms classes before, especially a Level 1/Basic course, it can be VERY tiring, both physically and mentally.  Most people aren't used to the volume of shooting that is done during these classes and you'll often see tape and bandages on hands by the second day. 

My first class was a two day basic carbine and I was wiped out at the end of the second day.  They present so much information in a short time window.  Many describe it as drinking from a fire hose.  I think I could have been able to have done a basic handgun class immediately before that, but I think the break would have allowed me time to absorb what was presented in the first class better and reset before proceeding to the next class.  This past May, I took a two day Handgun 2 and followed up a Carbine II class and it was manageable, but I was mentally prepared after being through their Level 1 courses. 

I think that for 3 day courses, the two day break in between is an excellent plan. 

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Good thinking!  I don't care about the dates so I will not vote.  I hope that won't be used to gauge interest in the class, I definitely want to take both.

yeah, tell all your friends that are not 2ahawaii members
we need to show interest before they will commit
i would bet if we asked all the HPD/HFD and others we know, we could get a lot of interest
but without a solid amount of interest, this thing will not even get past this stage
mahalos to jonjon for even getting it this far

Let's do this! I voted for the 2nd set of dates.

As mentioned by drck1000, multiple day courses especially that go for 3+ days are not easy for those who are new to shooting as in beginner style courses.  Many are not physically prepared and mentally there is a lot to take in.  The mental aspect, especially when working with firearms for beginners is almost as exhausting to their body physically as it is being on their feet and in the sun for multiple days.  I do multiple day courses on a regular basis (most recently for 11 days in April) and even though I am used to it, it is still tiring.  4 days straight for many is not pleasant.  I teach multiple day courses on a regular basis and just instructing I am feeling it after a week straight and I have a 2 weeker coming up the end of the month.     

From pure logistics standpoint of holding courses here in Hawaii, it is challenging.  I know many of the big names on the training circuit and I am continually asked about civilian or open enrollment courses in Hawaii as many trainers would love to come here.  Start explaining range difficulties and overall logistics and things get complicated and costly quickly.  Oahu is obviously your best bet as far as student base, but range situation is complicated.  Private ranges like the Big Island is great, but that includes a lot of money for travel as many students will be from Oahu.  Not knocking the Big Island in any way as I love it there and I am with family up in the Mountain View / Glenwood area often enough and shoot over there, but it can be darn cold and very very rainy especially in the winter months. While hard core types would push on, basic level courses and their students are definitely not benefited from those conditions and the overall experience might not be pleasant especially after factoring in costs to get there, etc...

I know Travis Haley well enough, from back when he used to live in Hawaii pre Magpul.  When he left we stayed in contact and once he hooked up with Magpul he always wanted to hold courses here but he understood the issues here in Hawaii first hand.  It would be great to have training courses here in Hawaii and I really hope you guys can get it done.  I wish logistics and politics were less complicated. 

Are they going to bring back the original ammo requirements?  I think it was something like 2,500 rounds for handgun, and 2,500 rounds for carbine?  If so, that would be very tiring for back to back courses.  I don't think I've fired more than 400 rounds in a day before.

yeah, tell all your friends that are not 2ahawaii members
we need to show interest before they will commit
i would bet if we asked all the HPD/HFD and others we know, we could get a lot of interest
but without a solid amount of interest, this thing will not even get past this stage
mahalos to jonjon for even getting it this far

Did and two of my friends (I believe one just signed up for 2A) are much interested. I know one of them is definitely willing to put down $$ with me.
Will do more on spreading the word.

How big can these classes go? I mean with one, or even two instructors, I would think there wouldn't be much "personal" interaction, as much as a mass-drill. It'd be my first time taking a course like this so perhaps my perceptions are misguided.

Did and two of my friends (I believe one just signed up for 2A) are much interested. I know one of them is definitely willing to put down $$ with me.
Will do more on spreading the word.

How big can these classes go? I mean with one, or even two instructors, I would think there wouldn't be much "personal" interaction, as much as a mass-drill. It'd be my first time taking a course like this so perhaps my perceptions are misguided.

I haven't gone to a Magpul class, but the classes I've been to and heard about are about max of 20-24 ish and that's usually with a main instructor and an assistant instructor and RSO at a minimum. 

You don't get one on one coaching, but with good instructors, you'll usually get enough feedback during the session. I've also noticed and heard that instructors quickly get a feel who generally know their stuff and who needs more help. That's when you hear about "that guy" who sometimes holds the class up with gear issues or not being safe.

If you are generally safety conscious, pay attention and really listen to the instructor, you'll be find. Just to slow and take it all in. Yeah, shooting is serious stuff, but have fun as well! 

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i think it's pretty sad that even if we were to have a class in our state, most of us still need to catch a plane to attend, despite how tiny of state we are.

cheaper to buy the vids dress up cosplay style and do dry fire drills...pew pew pew...