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Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class (Read 63330 times)

jonjon

Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« on: May 07, 2013, 10:04:51 AM »
Hello Everyone - Just finished my Magpul Dynamics Precision Rifle 1 class and had an awesome time. While I was there I talked to the Director of Precision Rifle Operations and inquired what it would take to get them to come to Hawaii to do some classes. They would need a host range and have 12 students signed up for the class. I know trying to find a range that would be able to host a 4 day 8 hour class would be close to impossible  :( but just trying to see if there is interest and if there is any ideas that someone might have.

They would be more than willing to come during the winter months when the weather is still great here and they would be willing to conduct all or any of the classes they offer as long as they have guaranteed enrollment for each class.
http://www.magpuldynamics.com/training.html

Let me know who would be interested and what classes you would be interested in and I can try to start the ball rolling on this and see if we can have some classes set for Dec. or next Jan. if possible.  :shaka:

drck1000

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2013, 10:23:37 AM »
I would be very interested in their classes, whether it would be their precision rifle or Level II or higher handgun or carbine.  However, like you said, a range to host the class would be the toughest part.  I've spend a bunch of time trying to get a couple of different training groups to conduct classes here and the range facility has always been the hang up. 

From my past discussions, a handgun course would need something like a 50-100 yard range and a rifle course would need something like a 100 - 200 yard range, but I've seen them run on 50 yard max ranges.  Those might be doable given the right property.  I have a contact on Kauai that is in the process of building their own private range, but then the costs to fly and stay on Kauai approaches the cost to attend these classes on the mainland.  I'll be going back to the mainland next week for a handgun and carbine class and the expenses add up real quick! 

Keep us posted on your efforts.  If it becomes a matter of attendance, I am sure I could get at least 3-4 more people (maybe more) that would be seriously interested. 

jonjon

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2013, 10:38:49 AM »
I'll be going back to the mainland next week for a handgun and carbine class and the expenses add up real quick! 

Keep us posted on your efforts.  If it becomes a matter of attendance, I am sure I could get at least 3-4 more people (maybe more) that would be seriously interested.

Hey drck1000 I know what you mean about the cost to attend on the mainland  :(

$500 for airfare
$450 for rental car
$600 for hotel
$350 for food and misc. expense
$600 for ammo
$750 for the class
$100 for range fee

learning to hit an 18" target at 1030 yards with constant 15mph full value cross winds and 25mph gust on the first shot.............. priceless  :D

but if I could have done it for just the class fee and ammo sooooooooo much better.

drck1000

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2013, 10:52:14 AM »
Hey drck1000 I know what you mean about the cost to attend on the mainland  :(

$500 for airfare
$450 for rental car
$600 for hotel
$350 for food and misc. expense
$600 for ammo
$750 for the class
$100 for range fee

learning to hit an 18" target at 1030 yards with constant 15mph full value cross winds and 25mph gust on the first shot.............. priceless  :D

but if I could have done it for just the class fee and ammo sooooooooo much better.
Let's see.  I think I'm going to regret doing this, but here goes.

Airfare $1000 + $250 copay for mileage for upgrade to first (United wasn't upfront about the copay to use my dad's miles)
Hotel $750
Rental Car $300
Ammo $400 or so (using leftover ammo from last class and left with a local resident)
Class Fee $1000 (2 day handgun and 2 day carbine)
Misc food and other approx $400 or so]

I had almost all of the gear for the class already.  Spent about $400 or so due to lessons learned from the last class, like bringing quality kneepads. 

It truely is a priceless experience though, something that unfortunately is not readily available to those living in Hawaii.  Just the range facilities that are available there is amazing. 

dirsh

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2013, 11:16:18 AM »
I'd be interested in the dynamic carbine 2 class. Do you have ideas of potential ranges?
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jonjon

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2013, 11:35:04 AM »
I'd be interested in the dynamic carbine 2 class. Do you have ideas of potential ranges?

I don't have any ideas that's why I was hoping someone know's about a private range that would be able to host , even if it meant going outer island. Outer island would still incur travel cost but would still be less than going to the mainland and it would benefit the students living on that island.

dirsh

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2013, 11:52:47 AM »
I'd be down for Big Island or Kauai
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jonjon

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2013, 11:56:44 AM »
I'd be down for Big Island or Kauai

I know there was some talk of building a world class shooting range on the Kona coast anyone hear any news on that lately?

ren

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2013, 12:22:24 PM »
We discussed it at Puuloa a few times - but as you mentioned there was a lack of interest.
Another venue would be Schofield as there are a few action/combat shooters.
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jonjon

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2013, 12:33:34 PM »
We discussed it at Puuloa a few times - but as you mentioned there was a lack of interest.
Another venue would be Schofield as there are a few action/combat shooters.

I guess with the military ranges the problem would be the ability to guarantee the use of the range for 3-4 consecutive days.

GZire

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2013, 01:05:57 PM »
We discussed it at Puuloa a few times - but as you mentioned there was a lack of interest.
Another venue would be Schofield as there are a few action/combat shooters.

I thought topic about profit-earning centers DQ'd a bunch of people from Puuloa?  I don't know specifically, but if that's the case, then this might be the same with SRGC as technically they are a non-profit generating club under MWR.





With regards to range space I thought there were some guys here with hookups to some land on the west side?  Last time they were here I thought they ran in Waikiki?  Range is very small compared to the space some here are talking about.

Lastly, yeah I'd be interested and could probably get another 3 to 4 people for sure.  The catch is not during SHOT.

GZire

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2013, 01:06:57 PM »
I know there was some talk of building a world class shooting range on the Kona coast anyone hear any news on that lately?


I believe the bill/budget has gone through.  It's moving, but there's a lot that needs to go on before the range can go into the bidding/construction phase.

crazy cat

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2013, 01:21:42 PM »
The range in Glenwood (Big Island) could be available.  PM sent to jonjon.

sworbeyegib

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2013, 04:11:12 PM »
I would be very stoked if this were to happen. 

mongoose

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2013, 06:03:18 PM »
I would be very interested in either a carbine class or a handgun class.

imanley

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2013, 08:06:21 PM »
I'd definitely be interested, I'd even fly to a different island if need be. :shake:

michalebsdad

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2013, 08:39:57 PM »
Cheaper if done on another island. A bunch of people got together, share hotel and rental. If this happens before I PCS, I could book rooms (on big island) at the military place and save even more money!

ren

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2013, 08:42:22 PM »
I thought topic about profit-earning centers DQ'd a bunch of people from Puuloa?  I don't know specifically, but if that's the case, then this might be the same with SRGC as technically they are a non-profit generating club under MWR.

thats why it was discussed and not executed
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RKBA

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2013, 09:15:01 PM »
I'll throw this out there...

The Ukumehame firing range on Maui has a range exclusively used by MPD, a 100-yard pistol range used for IPSC and Cowboy Action matches, and a 200-yard range for the general public/non-competitors. That leaves out a precision class, but carbine and/or pistol might be do-able. I believe the range sits empty most of the time since the 200-yard range is usually only open to the public on the 1st Sunday, 2nd Saturday, and 3rd Thursday of the month. Matches at the pistol range are only held on the weekends and MPD has their own range to use. The entire complex is owned by the County of Maui but they farm out the operation of the range to a club called "Valley Isle Sport Shooters". The RO's are all cool if you know what you're doing and follow the rules. I think all of them shoot competitively also. As long as you're safe, 30 round mags, rapid fire, even slide fire stocks are all allowed. So I don't think the idea of having a carbine or pistol class would freak them out. 

Having said that, I haven't been there in a long time and don't have any connections with the club so I have no idea if they'd actually allow it.

zippz

Re: Magpul Dynamics - Hawaii Class
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2013, 10:31:45 PM »
I'd attend the class, even if on another island.  Can share rooms.

However don't plan it on the first weekend of the month, usually national guard drill weekend.