Kapolei Registration Hearing. (Read 3780 times)

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Kapolei Registration Hearing.
« on: June 01, 2013, 01:36:44 PM »
Got this update today!

HRA LEGISLATIVE ALERT, June 1, 2013
 
 ATTN Oahu firearms rights supporters:
 
 Honolulu City Council Resolution13-74 CD1, Requesting HPD to open additional firearms sections in Kapolei and Kaneohe is amended, adding a clause to direct the Administration to form an advisory group to address the issue. At the Public Safety Committee hearing, Councilmember Kymberley Marcos Pine, co-introducer, stressed the importance of including representatives from HRA in the proposed working group.
 
 The Resolution is moving through the Council, and is scheduled for a final hearing Wednesday, 10am, June 5, 2013.
 Please e-mail or fax testimony in support, and attend the hearing to deliver it if you can.
 
 Just click on the hearing notice below and follow the directions to send a line or two in support and why.

 http://www4.honolulu.gov/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-138441/060513%20Council%20Agenda.htm

 Mahalo,
 Dr. Max Cooper,
HRA Legislative Liaison

bass monkey

Re: Kapolei Registration Hearing.
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2013, 05:37:12 PM »
Wow amazing. Thank you for the link!!

lasersgoPewPew77

Re: Kapolei Registration Hearing.
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 05:37:58 PM »
Thanks for the heads up, just submitted my testimony.

William Smith

Re: Kapolei Registration Hearing.
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2013, 10:17:03 AM »
So the City Council meeting went well, albeit long because of all the Budget stuff.  The resolution to request two new Oahu locations was not heard until about 2pm (meeting started at 10AM).
There were two "registered speakers" who were suppose to testify, however they must have had to leave before the resolution came up. They didn't speak and were not present.   I don't remember nor did I recognize their names.

There were four people who provided testimony.
One officer representing the LEO registration dept.  I am not sure if he was in opposition or just gave comments.  I'm pretty sure he was not in support.
Three folks gave brief testimony in support. 
HRA Pres. Harvey F. Gerwig II was in strong support.
Another "citizen" who owned guns was in support, and gave a brief description of the steps now necessary to go through permitting and registration process.
I was in support of resolution, and specifically noted I was in support of the formation of an advisory group being formed to address the logistics of the resolution.  If a committee/group is formed, they are suppose to provide a report back to City Council by October.   

I feel this advisory committee formation and resulting report will be necessary for the resolution to have much impact on the request, since it is simply a "request" for two more locations.  By forming this group, the issues, both "pro and con" can be assessed and discussed with stakeholders and formulated into the most favorable way for the resolution to proceed with recommendations. 
If we don't form this group, and discuss the issues, we are much less likely for the "request" to be taken seriously, or acted on in some fashion.   

I bet the HRA website will have more info on this as it develops. 

I'd certainly be willing to be on this "group" as a concerned citizen (who doesn't own any firearms and has no intention of owning any firearms any time soon).  I have the time, desire and passion to do so.  I don't have the "knowledge" as of this moment, but I can get up to speed on that part pretty quickly.  There's lots of issues: No space at Kapolei for new location.  No funds to man new locations.  Various legitimate constraints on implementation. ...and if all stakeholders are allowed and encouraged to discuss these issues, and possible solutions or "work arounds", we are more likely to see something come of all this. At the first meeting earlier in May, it was asked if gun owners would be willing to pay a registration or permitting fee, to help defray the costs of the resolution request.  Mr Gerwig noted that HRA was not in support of that idea.  Just look at the $340 permit fees now in place (via Bloomberg) for handguns in New York city.  (see http://saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=351 for SAF press release on NY permit fee info)
There's a whole lot more to discuss than just how to cut down the time in line to get permits/registration....  and what better venue to have these discussions, and include pertinent info in a report back to the Council then via this advisory group!  It's a great opportunity to get folks discussing things on the record, so to speak. 

I think Wednesday's meeting went very well.  ...and it was voted to move forward...what ever that means  LOL
« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 10:46:33 AM by William Smith »

macsak

Re: Kapolei Registration Hearing.
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2013, 11:18:26 AM »
mahalo mr smith
once again, much respect to you for going to meetings as a prospective gun owner
if you can, please come to a pau hana so we can all meet you
and i hope you saw the notice for the hra fun fair next weekend
it would be a fun (but expensive) activity for you and your boys
but the funds do go to help the hra
and the offer still stands to take you and your boys to shoot my rifle sometime

aloha

steve

So the City Council meeting went well, albeit long because of all the Budget stuff.  The resolution to request two new Oahu locations was not heard until about 2pm (meeting started at 10AM).
There were two "registered speakers" who were suppose to testify, however they must have had to leave before the resolution came up. They didn't speak and were not present.   I don't remember nor did I recognize their names.

There were four people who provided testimony.
One officer representing the LEO registration dept.  I am not sure if he was in opposition or just gave comments.  I'm pretty sure he was not in support.
Three folks gave brief testimony in support. 
HRA Pres. Harvey F. Gerwig II was in strong support.
Another "citizen" who owned guns was in support, and gave a brief description of the steps now necessary to go through permitting and registration process.
I was in support of resolution, and specifically noted I was in support of the formation of an advisory group being formed to address the logistics of the resolution.  If a committee/group is formed, they are suppose to provide a report back to City Council by October.   

I feel this advisory committee formation and resulting report will be necessary for the resolution to have much impact on the request, since it is simply a "request" for two more locations.  By forming this group, the issues, both "pro and con" can be assessed and discussed with stakeholders and formulated into the most favorable way for the resolution to proceed with recommendations. 
If we don't form this group, and discuss the issues, we are much less likely for the "request" to be taken seriously, or acted on in some fashion.   

I bet the HRA website will have more info on this as it develops. 

I'd certainly be willing to be on this "group" as a concerned citizen (who doesn't own any firearms and has no intention of owning any firearms any time soon).  I have the time, desire and passion to do so.  I don't have the "knowledge" as of this moment, but I can get up to speed on that part pretty quickly.  There's lots of issues: No space at Kapolei for new location.  No funds to man new locations.  Various legitimate constraints on implementation. ...and if all stakeholders are allowed and encouraged to discuss these issues, and possible solutions or "work arounds", we are more likely to see something come of all this. At the first meeting earlier in May, it was asked if gun owners would be willing to pay a registration or permitting fee, to help defray the costs of the resolution request.  Mr Gerwig noted that HRA was not in support of that idea.  Just look at the $340 permit fees now in place (via Bloomberg) for handguns in New York city.  (see http://saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=351 for SAF press release on NY permit fee info)
There's a whole lot more to discuss than just how to cut down the time in line to get permits/registration....  and what better venue to have these discussions, and include pertinent info in a report back to the Council then via this advisory group!  It's a great opportunity to get folks discussing things on the record, so to speak. 

I think Wednesday's meeting went very well.  ...and it was voted to move forward...what ever that means  LOL

stangzilla

Re: Kapolei Registration Hearing.
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2013, 02:33:00 PM »
thanks for the updates  :shaka:
hope we get more options to register our firearms