Not sure if this the  appropriate section to ask this question but here goes. I am new to shooting and will be getting my long rifle permit soon. Is it safe to say when I acquire my rifle permit that I will be able to get a pistol permit just as smoothly. I am just trying to understand this whole difficult permitting thing for something that my constitution says is my "right" to have and own.

Many thanks

A pistol permit has additional requirements/steps.  Suggest doing a search on the forum - you'll find a lot of posts that cover this area.

Not sure if this the  appropriate section to ask this question but here goes. I am new to shooting and will be getting my long rifle permit soon. Is it safe to say when I acquire my rifle permit that I will be able to get a pistol permit just as smoothly. I am just trying to understand this whole difficult permitting thing for something that my constitution says is my "right" to have and own.

Many thanks

With rifle permit you will have the fingerpringinting done.  You will just need to submit your NRA safety class affidavit and then you should have no problems getting handgun permits.

Or complete the State's Hunter Education Class, which is usually held for a few days every month.

Or complete the State's Hunter Education Class, which is usually held for a few days every month.

This is the way to do it if you already  know your wayaround a pistol.  (no offense to you guys that offer handgun safety courses) 
Unless you are total noob to hanguns... then you may want to attend a real deal handgun course. 

This is the way to do it if you already  know your wayaround a pistol.  (no offense to you guys that offer handgun safety courses) 
Unless you are total noob to hanguns... then you may want to attend a real deal handgun course. 

No offense to the good people that teach the hunter's education classes (some are my friends) but after taking that hunter's ed class for kicks last year, there is NO WAY what is covered is anywhere near enough for me to feel ok with its graduates purchasing a gun.  At the class we did not get to handle firearms.  They passed around snap caps as examples of ammo.  Zero actual touching, dry firing, or range time.  That class should NOT be good enough to get a permit for a handgun, if it is the state's desire to have some firearms knowledge before getting a permit.  The hunter's ed class is also a couple of days and takes way longer.  I would agree with snuffalupagus that the hunter's ed class would be the way to go IF you already know a fair amount about guns and have shot quite a bit, AND you also intend to hunt.  Absent those 2 qualifications, pay the money to some of the good guys giving pistol classes where you can try different types of guns before you buy.

I took the OGC class for my handgun permit and Eugene and the team did a great job.  I heard the class at Magnum Firearms was actually good (pre-ownership trouble) and I know shootingsolutionshi on here gives a great class as well.

No offense to the good people that teach the hunter's education classes (some are my friends) but after taking that hunter's ed class for kicks last year, there is NO WAY what is covered is anywhere near enough for me to feel ok with its graduates purchasing a gun.  At the class we did not get to handle firearms.  They passed around snap caps as examples of ammo.  Zero actual touching, dry firing, or range time.  That class should NOT be good enough to get a permit for a handgun, if it is the state's desire to have some firearms knowledge before getting a permit.  The hunter's ed class is also a couple of days and takes way longer.  I would agree with snuffalupagus that the hunter's ed class would be the way to go IF you already know a fair amount about guns and have shot quite a bit, AND you also intend to hunt.  Absent those 2 qualifications, pay the money to some of the good guys giving pistol classes where you can try different types of guns before you buy.

I took the OGC class for my handgun permit and Eugene and the team did a great job.  I heard the class at Magnum Firearms was actually good (pre-ownership trouble) and I know shootingsolutionshi on here gives a great class as well.

I think if the State does not offer some type of class to satisfy their restrictions then there would be a serious potential to overturn their safety class requirements............so there is Hunters Ed.

You need to look at it like if the safety class was pay only...........what would the State do if they required you to take a pay class in order to utilize your 1st Amendment Right.

fwiw, comparing long guns to hand guns, you dont have to take any safety class to purchase a long gun.  just apply for permit to acquire.

not making any judgements, just sayin'.

Well, I've owned a handgun since the tender age of  21, been shooting them since I was ten... and I found it kinda silly that to add to my collection  after moving to hawaii that I would need to take a special  (expensive) class.   It turned out I could register my (bought new off the line in 98' ) out of state handgun without any of the permiting  mumbo jumbo, but since I wanted to hunt here anyway, I took hunters ed and killed two birds with one rock, just in case I wanted to buy another handgun.
The pistol class just wasnt going to teach me anything I didnt already know about how to safely own, operate, and store a handgun, and at the time... 250 dollars could buy a lot of ammo.
In reality, everything I really needed to know about guns was taught to me by my dad, he also taught me such other valuable practical lessons like, how to clean a fish, change a tire, light a campfire without matches, and aways wear a rubber... when I was a kid - the way it should be

Pretty sad that even some of the shooting community is brainwashed to the point that they agree that in order to exercise the right to bear arms, that a citizen be made to take an expensive class. Everything a person needs to know about a gun can be found in it's manual, everything they need to know about how to be proficient with it can be learned for free at a good range, if you strike up a conversation with a friendly old salt shooter. My dad taught me how to shoot, some rangemaster at jackson arms in cali taught me a better grip, and trigger pull and helped me shoot better,
Heck, when my mini 30 arrived, the ffl that did the transfer showed me that a sharp blow to the butt of the rifle when the bolt is locked back can release it and chamber a round if you have a hot mag in it...(thats in the manual by the way)  Ive passed this kind knowledge on to other shooters... the way it should be.

^^^If the person(s) teaching you are knowledgeable, if they are good teachers, if they leave no big things out, etc.  So many ifs.

If you do happen to go to KHSC and shoot silhouette (where it seems the majority of the new guys always seem to congregate) you will some of the most unsafe shooting on the island.  I can't count how many guys almost got their gf's or friends railroad tracked or had no issues with them putting their fingers upside the cylinder gap on the 357/44/454/460/500/etc pistol............just lot's of scary stuff.

Should you be required to take a safety class - No I don't think you should.
Can you learn everything you need at the range to operate safely - No I don't think you can.

This is the way to do it if you already  know your wayaround a pistol.  (no offense to you guys that offer handgun safety courses) 
Unless you are total noob to hanguns... then you may want to attend a real deal handgun course. 

I've found most people who "know their wayaround a pistol" need to take another safety class.  There are very few people who would not benefit from a beginner safety class.  I took part of one while I was at Sig Academy for more information and refresher.

Well, I've owned a handgun since the tender age of  21, been shooting them since I was ten... and I found it kinda silly that to add to my collection  after moving to hawaii that I would need to take a special  (expensive) class.   It turned out I could register my (bought new off the line in 98' ) out of state handgun without any of the permiting  mumbo jumbo, but since I wanted to hunt here anyway, I took hunters ed and killed two birds with one rock, just in case I wanted to buy another handgun.
The pistol class just wasnt going to teach me anything I didnt already know about how to safely own, operate, and store a handgun, and at the time... 250 dollars could buy a lot of ammo.
In reality, everything I really needed to know about guns was taught to me by my dad, he also taught me such other valuable practical lessons like, how to clean a fish, change a tire, light a campfire without matches, and aways wear a rubber... when I was a kid - the way it should be

Pretty sad that even some of the shooting community is brainwashed to the point that they agree that in order to exercise the right to bear arms, that a citizen be made to take an expensive class. Everything a person needs to know about a gun can be found in it's manual, everything they need to know about how to be proficient with it can be learned for free at a good range, if you strike up a conversation with a friendly old salt shooter. My dad taught me how to shoot, some rangemaster at jackson arms in cali taught me a better grip, and trigger pull and helped me shoot better,
Heck, when my mini 30 arrived, the ffl that did the transfer showed me that a sharp blow to the butt of the rifle when the bolt is locked back can release it and chamber a round if you have a hot mag in it...(thats in the manual by the way)  Ive passed this kind knowledge on to other shooters... the way it should be.

Snuffalupaus, you sound like the perfect candidate for the hunters ed class- background in shooting and want a hunting license.  I don't know what the OP's background is, but I know many people who take the handgun class learn some valuable information there. 

In an ideal world, I don't think such classes should be required, because ideally anyone doing so without a class would be doing it because they either already have experience, or a solid plan on how to educate themselves on safety and legal issues.

Understanding that this is not an ideal world (and seeing how some newbs behave on the range), I do have mixed feelings about showing some level of proficiency before purchasing a handgun.

That debate aside, my main point was for anyone who needed/wanted to learn something about firearms and were trying to choose between a handgun class and hunter's ed, I can say again, with confidence, that you aren't going to learn much about guns from hunter's ed.

I know prices vary, but when I took the OGC class it was only $120 and I got $20 off of my gun purchase.  I think that would be money well spent for any person new to guns.

I've found most people who "know their wayaround a pistol" need to take another safety class.  There are very few people who would not benefit from a beginner safety class.  I took part of one while I was at Sig Academy for more information and refresher.

BTW, I'm not trying to pitch OGC's class over any other.  I didn't take Chris' (Funtimes) class, but I hear it's great too.     From what I understand, we are pretty lucky to have multiple people who put on good classes.

BTW, I'm not trying to pitch OGC's class over any other.  I didn't take Chris' (Funtimes) class, but I hear it's great too.     From what I understand, we are pretty lucky to have multiple people who put on good classes.

Not a dig on whose class to take -  I just get lots of people who "know plenty about guns, and I can shoot."  But, when we get to the range, they can't get on the damn paper lol.   Tactics change a lot as well, platform, shooting grips, stance etc. it evolves  there is some old school stuff out that people 'know' but likely isn't really helping them.