I lost my long gun permit for the past few weeks. Since I was registering guns yesterday they told me I had to submit a police report so I did. Today I was installing a new door panel on my safe and I found it in a pocket I had to call 911 for non-emergency and they had to dispatch a cop to my house to close the report. So shame. Moral of the story, blame your wife, I mean take good care of your permits and remember where you put it. 

LMAO!!!! talk about a situation, i would have blamed it on the wife 

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-branz

Why not?
My wife always blames me.

I would have blamed it on "oops" and filed it under "who cares if HPD was inconvenienced by my misplacing their idiotic permit?"

I lost my long gun permit for the past few weeks. Since I was registering guns yesterday they told me I had to submit a police report so I did. Today I was installing a new door panel on my safe and I found it in a pocket I had to call 911 for non-emergency and they had to dispatch a cop to my house to close the report. So shame. Moral of the story, blame your wife, I mean take good care of your permits and remember where you put it. 

There must be some law I'm missing about permits.  Why would you need to submit a police report about a lost long gun permit?

There must be some law I'm missing about permits.  Why would you need to submit a police report about a lost long gun permit?

I asked two different officers at the station. They both said the same thing. All I wanted was a copy of it.

There must be some law I'm missing about permits.  Why would you need to submit a police report about a lost long gun permit?

Because if I am the one who found (stole?) your permit, and I happen to be a felon on parole, I could try to buy a long gun offered by a 2a member in the classifieds here.  We meet up, I show the permit, and leave with the rifle or shotgun.  If the seller doesn't ask for ID, he assumes I am YOU and sells me the gun. 

In theory, permits to acquire are controlled (numbered) documents issued to limit firearms sales to those authorized to own guns by virtue of their mental status, age, lack of criminal convictions, etc.  If you lose that permit, someone else might try to use it.

There must be some law I'm missing about permits.  Why would you need to submit a police report about a lost long gun permit?

There is.
Because of the nature of a permit to acquire, a police report must be filled out every time you claim one lost or destroyed.

Because if I am the one who found (stole?) your permit, and I happen to be a felon on parole, I could try to buy a long gun offered by a 2a member in the classifieds here.  We meet up, I show the permit, and leave with the rifle or shotgun.  If the seller doesn't ask for ID, he assumes I am YOU and sells me the gun. 

In theory, permits to acquire are controlled (numbered) documents issued to limit firearms sales to those authorized to own guns by virtue of their mental status, age, lack of criminal convictions, etc.  If you lose that permit, someone else might try to use it.

that is just silly. i could whip one up in photoshop in an hour. filing a police report for a lost permit is an utter waste of taxpayer money and police department resources. 

that is just silly. i could whip one up in photoshop in an hour. filing a police report for a lost permit is an utter waste of taxpayer money and police department resources. 

There you go again!  Trying to use logic, reasoning and common sense when discussing the government!  You should have learned better by now!!   

Yep, if she can't prove it's me then I always blame her. But even if I can prove that it wasn't me, she'll still always blame me.

There is.
Because of the nature of a permit to acquire, a police report must be filled out every time you claim one lost or destroyed.

I was looking at the firearms permit law last night, trying to find something that specifically addresses this particular issue but found nothing. It may be in there or in the penal code but I just haven't found it. Trying to read statutes at midnight certainly doesn't help. My thinking is that a permit to acquire is granted to the applicant and not the holder of the permit...sort of like a drivers license. You wouldn't file a police report for a missing driver's license so why would you report a firearms permit missing?  Anyways, I'll look again to see if I can find anything.

Oh you know what else, the cop didn't even ask to see my ID. All he did was ask my name and address so he could enter it into his computer. I don't even know why he had to ask that cause he had my report number in his computer with all my info and he drove to my address. I didn't have to sign anything either. Why couldn't they do it over the phone?

I was looking at the firearms permit law last night, trying to find something that specifically addresses this particular issue but found nothing. It may be in there or in the penal code but I just haven't found it. Trying to read statutes at midnight certainly doesn't help. My thinking is that a permit to acquire is granted to the applicant and not the holder of the permit...sort of like a drivers license. You wouldn't file a police report for a missing driver's license so why would you report a firearms permit missing?  Anyways, I'll look again to see if I can find anything.

A driver's license doesn't "allow" you to acquire a vehicle.  It only says you are allowed to operate one.  Gun control and registration laws are all about trying to reduce gun ownership, particularly for those among us deemed to be at high risk for misuse.  I wouldn't try comparing a gun permit to any other documents issued by the government.  The rationale behind most gun ownership or purchasing documents can't be logically defined or supported.  Many are the result of some politician's promise to "do something" to fix a perceived "gun violence" problem.

There must be some law I'm missing about permits.  Why would you need to submit a police report about a lost long gun permit?

I don't know.  It's not in anything I have ever seen, but I can confirm this is what they will tell you as It has been said to me personally before.

A driver's license doesn't "allow" you to acquire a vehicle.  It only says you are allowed to operate one.  Gun control and registration laws are all about trying to reduce gun ownership, particularly for those among us deemed to be at high risk for misuse.  I wouldn't try comparing a gun permit to any other documents issued by the government.  The rationale behind most gun ownership or purchasing documents can't be logically defined or supported.  Many are the result of some politician's promise to "do something" to fix a perceived "gun violence" problem.

This.

that is just silly. i could whip one up in photoshop in an hour. filing a police report for a lost permit is an utter waste of taxpayer money and police department resources. 

I was puzzled by the reporting requirement in light of the process of aquiring a firearm through HPD since HPD confirms the identification of the applicant with the records on file whenever an application for a permit to acquire a handgun is submitted. But that process only pertains to acquiring hand guns. We are dealing with a long gun permit here. The bearer of such a permit could walk into a LGS and immediately acquire a long gun without so much as a fake I.D.

I was puzzled by the reporting requirement in light of the process of aquiring a firearm through HPD since HPD confirms the identification of the applicant with the records on file whenever an application for a permit to acquire a handgun is submitted. But that process only pertains to acquiring hand guns. We are dealing with a long gun permit here. The bearer of such a permit could walk into a LGS and immediately acquire a long gun without so much as a fake I.D.

No he couldn't.

No he couldn't.

So you're saying that if a long gun permit is stolen and the thief shows up at a lgs to buy a long gun with the permit and a fake I.D., he still wouldn't be able to do so?

So you're saying that if a long gun permit is stolen and the thief shows up at a lgs to buy a long gun with the permit and a fake I.D., he still wouldn't be able to do so?

Sure, if the fake ID was convincing, but that's not what you said.  You said, "...without so much as a fake ID", which is incorrect and presumably a typo.