If it were only this easy! (Read 5928 times)

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If it were only this easy!
« on: December 15, 2010, 12:50:41 PM »
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Re: If it were only this easy!
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 08:23:49 PM »
Nice video. I may have to check that place out :)
I am not a lawyer.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." - United States Constitution Amendment 2 & Hawaii State Constitution Article 1 Section 17

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Re: If it were only this easy!
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 03:01:23 PM »
if it were only this real....   Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I am not in favor of concealed weapons. I think that creates a potential
atmosphere where more innocent people could (get shot during) altercations."
-- Barack Obama, April 2008

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Re: If it were only this easy!
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 04:59:14 PM »
if it were only this real....   Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your Right -- this never happens here....  ::)

http://www.khon2.com/mostpopular/story/Man-allegedly-robbed-then-sexually-assaulted-woman/d2hHmNAExEWcBKaK4kalwg.cspx

Except in this case, she was subjected to a violent experience that will forever haunt her, possibly destroy her relationship(s), and may forever put her in fear of walking around in society for the rest of her life.
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Re: If it were only this easy!
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 09:06:40 PM »
And u and your CCW boys would of been right there to intervene????

Cmon man..  Even if CCW is granted in HAWAII not everyone will carry..   CRIME DOES HAPPEN BRO.  IF you think u need CCW then carry and explain to POLICE why u carried and shot the suspect.  With our Judiciary system i am sure u will get off. 

Damn man if you all want CCW so bad maybe this is what its gonna take....  Just giving u all a different view of this CCW debate.
"I am not in favor of concealed weapons. I think that creates a potential
atmosphere where more innocent people could (get shot during) altercations."
-- Barack Obama, April 2008

Funtimes

Re: If it were only this easy!
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2010, 09:22:24 PM »
And u and your CCW boys would of been right there to intervene????

Cmon man..  Even if CCW is granted in HAWAII not everyone will carry..   CRIME DOES HAPPEN BRO.  IF you think u need CCW then carry and explain to POLICE why u carried and shot the suspect.  With our Judiciary system i am sure u will get off. 

Damn man if you all want CCW so bad maybe this is what its gonna take....  Just giving u all a different view of this CCW debate.

I imagine you like fishing, or maybe liked to eat fish, since I don't know to many guys that dont, especially local ones let me toss you this.

So, if 2% of the fish on the island were poisonous, but you didn't know which ones, would you eat fish? I sure would not... I have been to vegas, and seen people win greater then 1/100 odds.
That is how concealed carry works in detering criminals. When people have to take a concious effort to think about, "If I try to do this, will someone shoot me" it does make people think.  Research shows, that criminals are more afraid of a victim killing them, then they are of police at all.  These are facts my friend.  Firearms, when utilized properly, and carried by responsible individuals, are a deterrent to crime and added protection for society.

Of course not everyone will carry. Not everyone is responsible enough to carry, and many simply don't like firearms. However, many people do want to carry firearms. I am one of them. 

So -- would we have been there to save her? No, probably not, it's a small percentage of people here who would carry. Could she have saved herself? Could she have stopped this thug in the act of raping her? Of course.
The point is -- SHE NEVER HAD A CHANCE, and we must empower ourselves to HAVE A CHANCE.
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Re: If it were only this easy!
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2010, 12:22:41 AM »
I personally have met some women who can and will do exactly what the video shows.   That's why they carry revolvers.......

tonsofguns

Re: If it were only this easy!
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2010, 01:05:54 AM »
Geez old guy, you always find a way to plug revolvers. :D

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Redtail

Re: If it were only this easy!
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2010, 07:22:33 AM »
Quote
Even if CCW is granted in HAWAII not everyone will carry..   CRIME DOES HAPPEN BRO
Nobody is forcing you or anybody to CCW, if that's what you want that's your choice.  All we want is to respect our rights and fulfill what public officials haven taken oath for, to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.  The last time I checked, Hawaii is still the 50th state.  Crime does happen, exactly that's what we meant and you'll never know when.  Better to have a gun and not need it than needing it and not have it.  Don't you know that LEO's are not required by law to be there when you need them? There was a lawsuit regarding this matter.   Google it.
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‘‘To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.’’
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Old Guy

Re: If it were only this easy!
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2010, 09:44:59 AM »
tonsofguns,

   I push revolvers because they Always work.  Especially  when fired thru your pocket.

   Unllike semi-autos which have more FTF and have a Need to be very much up on clearing malfunctions.  Stuff that will get you Killed.

   For the AVERAGE person, it is a minimalist firearm.  Minimal Manual of Arms and training(other than knowing the Law on close inter personal
       encounters of the violent kind.)

   We have more than enough semi-autos here in the compound.

   As Matthew Quigley said, "never said I didn't know how to use one, I just don't have a need for one"

   Ever notice that Most Big Bear guns in Alaska are revolvers?  Ever wonder Why?

Redtail

Re: If it were only this easy!
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2010, 08:47:08 PM »
Like my old man always say revolvers don't jam.
‘‘I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.’’
‘‘To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.’’
-George Mason

www.campaignforliberty.com   www.lewrockwell.com