Deedy Trial - Injustice? (Read 340676 times)

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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #380 on: July 28, 2013, 08:45:42 AM »
Back to topic on deedy.  No more posts about the base guy, we are straying.

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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #381 on: July 28, 2013, 12:22:51 PM »
No more stupid shit about the guy in a car. It's not relevant to this case, at least in the manner it's currently being discussed.  Please focus more on the trial and the motives behind, and less griping about some other incident or what could / should have happened in said incident.

I have now wasted 15 minutes of my time cleaning up posts, removing excessive comments unrelated to this thread, and also finished banging my head against the wall.  :stopjack: :crazy:
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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #382 on: July 28, 2013, 03:46:18 PM »
No more stupid shit about the guy in a car. It's not relevant to this case, at least in the manner it's currently being discussed.  Please focus more on the trial and the motives behind, and less griping about some other incident or what could / should have happened in said incident.

I have now wasted 15 minutes of my time cleaning up posts, removing excessive comments unrelated to this thread, and also finished banging my head against the wall.  :stopjack: :crazy:

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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #383 on: July 28, 2013, 04:09:27 PM »
The only reason this is even an issue is because a mainland LEO was involved.

If this was an off duty HPD officer, and all the facts were exactly the same, it would be an open and shut case.

Yup! 

"Eh this guy is linking me, no can back down now.". Stupid mentality.  No one wins in a fight.  No one.  The Zimmerman trial proved that. 

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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #384 on: July 28, 2013, 06:05:13 PM »
Yup! 

"Eh this guy is linking me, no can back down now.". Stupid mentality.  No one wins in a fight.  No one.  The Zimmerman trial proved that.

I say again, the Blallah mentality. One Haole no can diss me, especially one mainland Haole, In front my friends???
 lose face, but Garuda is right. :(
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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #385 on: July 28, 2013, 07:31:10 PM »
I say again, the Blallah mentality. One Haole no can diss me, especially one mainland Haole, In front my friends???
 lose face, but Garuda is right. :(

 Off topic but...
Just a FYI, IMO your posts are starting to come off like you are stereotyping all locals.  I'm not going to act like that mentality doesn't exist, but you are also using a derogatory description referring to locals.  I'm local and have no issues with haole's, if I did I would have issues being in the service.  With that said, what you are talking about is a two way street.  When I'm around my haole military friends and there are others that don't know me, they come off quite stand-offish/snobbish and I hear them say things like "who brought the local guy" or "what's that guy doing here".  Attitudes change when they find out who I am, but what I am referring to is a predetermined assessment from haole's that all locals act like that or don't like haole's.  I would love to hear how exactly CCW will help with this local mentality too.  If you don't actually have friends or know people personally who act like that in public, you might not understand that some of those guys are out there to start a fight regardless of race.  I think some of it stems from the feeling that they are feared by others, even among peers.
The mind acts like an enemy for those who do not control it.
- Bhagavad Gita

Garuda

Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #386 on: July 28, 2013, 10:14:38 PM »
Off topic but...
Just a FYI, IMO your posts are starting to come off like you are stereotyping all locals.  I'm not going to act like that mentality doesn't exist, but you are also using a derogatory description referring to locals.  I'm local and have no issues with haole's, if I did I would have issues being in the service.  With that said, what you are talking about is a two way street.  When I'm around my haole military friends and there are others that don't know me, they come off quite stand-offish/snobbish and I hear them say things like "who brought the local guy" or "what's that guy doing here".  Attitudes change when they find out who I am, but what I am referring to is a predetermined assessment from haole's that all locals act like that or don't like haole's.  I would love to hear how exactly CCW will help with this local mentality too.  If you don't actually have friends or know people personally who act like that in public, you might not understand that some of those guys are out there to start a fight regardless of race.  I think some of it stems from the feeling that they are feared by others, even among peers.

Well said, judging a book by its cover is the problem.  I think a lot of the issue stems from the fact that a lot of Hawaii people (not all) are amiable.  The culture tends to to be more team based, be humble, don't draw attention to yourself.  Throw in mainland mentality where "you should do this because I have this many years experience" or because I said so, without ever trying to get to know those around you, or "this job is beneath me mentality."  See it all the time, and those like that never last more than a year or two in the company. 

I think that's why the stereotype remains,  judging a book by its cover, and the select few assholes who perpetuate the haole stereotype. 

In other news, someone here  just proved the last part of your post.  Those type of people perpetuate the other side of the stereotype.

Kingkeoni

Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #387 on: July 28, 2013, 11:07:45 PM »
I would feel threatened if I could understand your moke-anese.

^This is why people like Deedy conceal carry.

We should send Walangkatapat to testify at the trial. Guaranteed Deedy gets acquitted.

"We the jury, find my Deedy innocent of all charges based on the testimony of that angry little Filipino."
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Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #388 on: July 28, 2013, 11:09:51 PM »
Forums are also about organized information and guided discussion, not a train wreck of mixed topics filled with irrelevant information.  You can post about it, just make a new thread.
A train wreck of mixed topics and irrelevant info? What a few of us were arguing was a single lucid subject; a  relevant offshoot to the Deedy topic. Summarily deleting our threads was impolite and punitive - THAT is censorship. Knowing our posts were heartfelt and had much thought put into them, you could have respectfully moved the them to a new topic so we and or others could have pursued it - THAT would have been moderation.

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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #389 on: July 29, 2013, 02:31:26 AM »
A train wreck of mixed topics and irrelevant info? What a few of us were arguing was a single lucid subject; a  relevant offshoot to the Deedy topic. Summarily deleting our threads was impolite and punitive - THAT is censorship. Knowing our posts were heartfelt and had much thought put into them, you could have respectfully moved the them to a new topic so we and or others could have pursued it - THAT would have been moderation.

Start new topics if it is off topic from this particular one yourselves.   Stay on topic and don't get too heated with the posts and your posts won't get deleted.  It is what it is.  Next off topic post get this thread locked.

Gordyf

Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #390 on: July 29, 2013, 04:51:55 PM »
Off topic but...
Just a FYI, IMO your posts are starting to come off like you are stereotyping all locals.  I'm not going to act like that mentality doesn't exist, but you are also using a derogatory description referring to locals.  I'm local and have no issues with haole's, if I did I would have issues being in the service.  With that said, what you are talking about is a two way street.  When I'm around my haole military friends and there are others that don't know me, they come off quite stand-offish/snobbish and I hear them say things like "who brought the local guy" or "what's that guy doing here".  Attitudes change when they find out who I am, but what I am referring to is a predetermined assessment from haole's that all locals act like that or don't like haole's.  I would love to hear how exactly CCW will help with this local mentality too.  If you don't actually have friends or know people personally who act like that in public, you might not understand that some of those guys are out there to start a fight regardless of race.  I think some of it stems from the feeling that they are feared by others, even among peers.

Imku and all the others on the forum, at the risk of Heavies locking the thread, I apologize for the perception that I was stereotyping, not my intent, and for the use of a racially charged descriptive. My last couple of posts were perhaps not as well thought out as they should have been. It will not happen again.
Aloha
Gordy

GZire

Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #391 on: July 30, 2013, 12:48:14 PM »
So is it just me or is it that just as the Defense starts to present its case the media coverage seemingly has disappeared?  Why no coverage now?

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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #392 on: July 30, 2013, 02:31:10 PM »
So is it just me or is it that just as the Defense starts to present its case the media coverage seemingly has disappeared?  Why no coverage now?

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Hart said he'll begin presenting Deedy's defense Wednesday.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/22972089/day-14-prosecutor-questions-final-witness-in-deedy-murder-trial
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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #393 on: July 30, 2013, 03:49:10 PM »
Thanks moosed, I knew it was think week. I had assumed it was to start on Monday as I thought the Prosection had rested already.

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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #394 on: July 30, 2013, 04:18:39 PM »
Eh Moosed, Lower your voice.  No need to yell.
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And thanks for the update.  :shaka:
I didn't realize it was Wednesday either.

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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #395 on: July 30, 2013, 04:31:30 PM »
Eh Moosed, Lower your voice.  No need to yell.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ( JK )

And thanks for the update.  :shaka:
I didn't realize it was Wednesday either.

You should brush up on your N'etiquette rules:

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ALL CAPS is considered YELLING.  Using font styles to add emphasis, better organize your writing, and dress up correspondence is all perfectly appropriate.

It's a common misconception, so I WON'T YELL AT YOU!!   >:D
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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #396 on: July 30, 2013, 04:47:52 PM »
You should brush up on your N'etiquette rules:

http://www.networketiquette.net/core_rules_do_not_use_all_caps.html

ALL CAPS is considered YELLING.  Using font styles to add emphasis, better organize your writing, and dress up correspondence is all perfectly appropriate.

It's a common misconception, so I WON'T YELL AT YOU!!   >:D

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My bad for not having my N'etiquette up to date.  :shaka:  I'll brush up.

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This is technically on point and a friendly exchange in jest.

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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #397 on: July 30, 2013, 04:52:04 PM »
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

My bad for not having my N'etiquette up to date.  :shaka:  I'll brush up.

Mods,

This is technically on point and a friendly exchange in jest.

Don't lock the post.  :worship:   
The defense is just about to begin.

Glad I could be of service!!   :stopjack:
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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #398 on: July 30, 2013, 05:07:26 PM »
Aieahound has been serviced by moosed...............interesting.....................

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Re: Deedy Trial - Injustice?
« Reply #399 on: July 30, 2013, 05:11:08 PM »
This should be interesting.  I wonder who they will be calling on their behalf.
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