Another shooting near the last one:  http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7347027.html

Perhaps, for those of us who carry lots of money, we can ask for a Police Escort to and From the Banks instead of a CCW permit?

Wonder what HPD will say to that one??

They will respond when they are called, but how long it takes is up to them.

I met someone from Texas today and he was telling me how whenever there's a brake in or robbery there, the bad guys almost always get the bad end of the it........CCW! CCW! CCW! 

I met someone from Texas today and he was telling me how whenever there's a brake in or robbery there, the bad guys almost always get the bad end of the it........CCW! CCW! CCW! 

We used to have a lot of break ins and the like in my old neighbor hood that I grew up in outside Corpus Christi, TX.   There are now several signs in my town that say "We support Concealed Carry. Think before you act!"

Crime has dropped since i have lived there.

If i am not mistaken all you folks are allowed to carry on your personal property (home or work).  Not to be mean or anything but you all act like lil bitchedsabout ccw.  If you really truly wanna feel safe learn a martial art or become law enforcement then you can carry all the guns you want.  Until then i suggest u all quit your moaning, bitching, and crying....... Except for randomn acts of violence (uesugi, Mau Gofredo, ewa beach stabbing) violent life threatening crimes do not really happen.  Really guys you gonna point your lil pistol at some sole who decided to give you a stink eye after u said something stupid to him?  Bottom line is this, THIS IS HAWAII NOT THE MAINLAND...  IF YOU DO NOT LIKE OUR CCW LAWS GO BACK TO THE MAINLAND...  KEEP HAWAII HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Aloha Oe, Mele Kalikimaka... Take care and have a safe Holiday Season....

THIS IS HAWAII NOT THE MAINLAND... KEEP HAWAII HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Observe, folks. This is exactly what I've been talking about that drags us 10 years behind. The mentality, the mold, that needs to be broken if we're ever to stop being last. The training we've received to not only shed our own rights, but to repel our own rights. All emotion. This saddens me. 
 
PS: Hawaii is a state that is part of the U.S.

PS IF U DO NOT LIKE HAWAII'S GUN LAWS THEN LEAVE. 

HAWAII IS ONE OF IF NOT THE SAFEST STATE IN THE USA..  REALLY BRAH U GUYS THINK YOU GONNA PLAY COPPER AND SHOOT PEOPLE?  WAKE UP BRADDAH 

Too funny, "except for random acts of violence, violent life threatening crimes don't really happen...". This made me chuckle because you actually gave examples of VIOLENT CRIME happening in Hawaii.

So funny how you contradicted yourself in the same sentence. Please go back to the savage lands troll, I hope your sole skills protects you better than my .40 when someone breaks into your  house to murder you and your family.   

If i am not mistaken all you folks are allowed to carry on your personal property (home or work).  Not to be mean or anything but you all act like lil bitchedsabout ccw.  If you really truly wanna feel safe learn a martial art or become law enforcement then you can carry all the guns you want.  Until then i suggest u all quit your moaning, bitching, and crying....... Except for randomn acts of violence (uesugi, Mau Gofredo, ewa beach stabbing) violent life threatening crimes do not really happen.  Really guys you gonna point your lil pistol at some sole who decided to give you a stink eye after u said something stupid to him?  Bottom line is this, THIS IS HAWAII NOT THE MAINLAND...  IF YOU DO NOT LIKE OUR CCW LAWS GO BACK TO THE MAINLAND...  KEEP HAWAII HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Aloha Oe, Mele Kalikimaka... Take care and have a safe Holiday Season....

quoted before he modded his reply... 

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 22, 2010, 08:11:16 AM

THIS IS HAWAII NOT THE MAINLAND... KEEP HAWAII HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Observe, folks. This is exactly what I've been talking about that drags us 10 years behind. The mentality, the mold, that needs to be broken if we're ever to stop being last. The training we've received to not only shed our own rights, but to repel our own rights. All emotion. This saddens me. 
 
PS: Hawaii is a state that is part of the U.S.

Yep, this is the "locals vs. haoles" attitude. 

"Too funny, "except for random acts of violence, violent life threatening crimes don't really happen...". This made me chuckle because you actually gave examples of VIOLENT CRIME happening in Hawaii.

So funny how you contradicted yourself in the same sentence. Please go back to the savage lands troll, I hope your sole skills protects you better than my .40 when someone breaks into your  house to murder you and your family.   "      FROM KANEOHE GROWN



WHY WOULD I NEED A CCW PERMIT FOR HOME SELF DEFENSE?  Brah u talking apples and oranges.....  Oh and my "sole skills" are fine thank you very much..   

You're totally right about the home defense vs ccw. I'll agree my post was ill worded. Let me rephrase the statement.

I hope your sole skills protect you and your family better than my .40 when someone holds you at gun point to rob you (after all people who are robbed at gun point are NEVER shot after *total sarcasm*).

Also, I noted that you attempted to apply for HPD. Good luck on that one, I hope the day you secure the crime scene for a victim of a rape or murder will be the day that you understand why ordinary citizens demand the right to defend themselves rather than rely on others...

Guys. Please don't let him troll you. He's just another sovereignity type with a grudge towards something that happened most likely before he was even born. I've lived here pretty much all my life and I have seen these type that refuse to change based entirely on semantics. As I mentioned before, that attitude is why we're 10 years behind. Why being late is acceptable. Why being oppressed is desired. Why his only response is going to be, "eh, go bak mainland brah!". Why hundreds of jobs were lost from the superferry. Why locals attack another when that other local doesn't toe the line. We're trained to want to stay backwards.

I've lived in Hawaii all my life and it's my home. "Brah."

However, I AM done with being suppressed. I WILL fight for my rights.

Totally right Dregs, I'm so used to this place containing Pro 2A supporters took me by surprise with the anti rant. For a second there, I thought I was in the StarAdvertiser comments section...

 

The right to bear arms is your PRIVLEDGE not your damn rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Oh i wanted the Super Ferry it was all the Haole's on Kauai that hated it.  Funny those same Haole's that said the Ferry was destructive to the Islands are the same ones pushing for CCW

Not sure if troll or silly keiki.

maybe both??


Eh all BS aside why you all wanna carry for  (other than protection/2nd Amendment)??

Eh all BS aside why you all wanna carry for  (other than protection/2nd Amendment)??

I just turned in my CCW permit today....  It is called the City and County of Honolulu Metropolitan Police Application.  At first i was fustrated by the strict gun laws in Hawaii, but hell it is what it is, plus i always wanted to be a police officer.     Good luck to all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=927.msg6115#msg6115

A bit ironic, innit? 

while the rest of you are wishing to carry I WILL BE!!!!!!!!!  Doing it for the job security, money, perks, and a GOAL that i wished to accomplish.....  Dont hate the player hate the GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If i am not mistaken all you folks are allowed to carry on your personal property (home or work).  Not to be mean or anything but you all act like lil bitchedsabout ccw.  If you really truly wanna feel safe learn a martial art or become law enforcement then you can carry all the guns you want.  Until then i suggest u all quit your moaning, bitching, and crying....... Except for randomn acts of violence (uesugi, Mau Gofredo, ewa beach stabbing) violent life threatening crimes do not really happen.  Really guys you gonna point your lil pistol at some sole who decided to give you a stink eye after u said something stupid to him?  Bottom line is this, THIS IS HAWAII NOT THE MAINLAND...  IF YOU DO NOT LIKE OUR CCW LAWS GO BACK TO THE MAINLAND...  KEEP HAWAII HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Aloha Oe, Mele Kalikimaka... Take care and have a safe Holiday Season....

Do you have any inkling of a brain that is able to comprehend what the constitution stands for?   This has nothing to do with mainland; this is the United States - brah. We have a *right* to keep and bear arms.

I would encourage you to research Uniform Crime Reports; if you have no clue what I am talking about, then you should probably rethink your comments on how "safe" Hawaii is.  You are very likely to be robbed here, you are very likely to have your vehicle or property stolen or your house broken into. We were for the year 2009, 35th in the nation for most rapes.  We are not number 1 for safety, in *ANY* topic.  However, Vermont, who has constitutional carry is.   

There is one statistically proven fact: Open or Concealed carry will only *DECREASE* the current crime rate.   Don't like that? Prove me wrong with peer reviewed data, short of that, don't waste your time.

As to pointing a firearm at some sole "who gave the stink eye", see that is your problem actually. You don't have a complete understanding of the use of force and deadly force. You have probably never been trained or taught it either; and you probably are one of the guys who gets all huffy puffy when someone does give you the "stink eye." 

In regards to the Superferry, it was the actions of many local groups petitioning, lobbying, protesting (On surfboards and kayaks to block harbor entrances) and various other protesting tactics that made the company realise that Hawaii is a fairly hostile business environment. We all understand that reefs and oceans need protecting, but we could focus on much larger offenders then a vessell pulling in and out of a harbor, especially when it would generate revenue to other states.

The real problem -- is you. You're slightly ignorant, if you were not, you wouldn't be trying to  blame the "haole".  People should really get the hell out with that type of stuff, this isn't 1960s.  Like it or not, many of us are here to stay.  This is not your island. It is *OUR* island.