thats cool, too bad i couldnt set up an underground range at my place

So anyone tried out this UGrange? Lol

You know you can buy property on the Big Island that have lava tubes you can stand up in.  My neghbor has a tube that is 8 ft. across.  These tubes are a ready made underground range if you get one that goes straight for at least 25 yards for a handgun range.  Some of these tubes you can walk for miles.

I have a 25 yd handgun range that can easily be made to 100 yds in about a week.  Even a 50 yd range is good for rifle if you use reduced size targets.  I also never had a problem or complaint shooting my AR15 and 9mm.

One of the things that inherited at my work recently is co-small arms range responsibility.  It primarily is for certifying ranges and a POC for my area for the national level certifier.  Anyways, I've gone on certification trips with my former coworker (since retired) and range certification for indoor is more about ventilation than anything. The backstop and other concerns about "danger zone" and stuff are relatively easy with enclosed ranges.  For Hawaii, the durability of the ventilation system is one of the major things.  No proper ventilation and you're doing essentially poisoning people.

There are actually a number of companies that manufacture modular shooting ranges.  A little as two 40' shipping containers that can be pretty easily delivered and secure.  All you would need is a couple of concrete foundation blocks (of course the open space) and you're set.  The manufactured ones that I've seen with ventilation aren't cheap though. 

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Hehehehe just came across some videos on IG seen some friends shooting at a ranch or something. My other friend I know was in big island. The other one I'm sure was somewhere on Oahu.  Mad me curios to see if anyone knows about a 3rd party range.

You know you can buy property on the Big Island that have lava tubes you can stand up in.  My neghbor has a tube that is 8 ft. across.  These tubes are a ready made underground range if you get one that goes straight for at least 25 yards for a handgun range.  Some of these tubes you can walk for miles.

I have a 25 yd handgun range that can easily be made to 100 yds in about a week.  Even a 50 yd range is good for rifle if you use reduced size targets.  I also never had a problem or complaint shooting my AR15 and 9mm.

  I'm assuming your range is located on big island? I wonder how much starting cost is for property, with lava tubes. Is your range a lava tube? Or  backyard?

  I'm assuming your range is located on big island? I wonder how much starting cost is for property, with lava tubes. Is your range a lava tube? Or  backyard?

Yes, I live in upper Puna.  Gun friendly neighbors.  My range is in the back corner boardering the forest reserve, not in a lava tube.  I am sure there are lava tubes below me, but no entrance on my property.

FYI, vacant land here, all 3 acre lots, start as low as $14k.  $14k would have bought 170 sq ft of land of my old property in Kailua Oahu.

Thanks for shedding some light! I appreciate it. 14k for land sounds very nice. I will surely consider that. Would love to have a place for a family get away.

Me sense of land area is seriously off.  3 acres sounds like TONS of land!  Especially from my 1100 sq ft place that if I sold I could apparently get many acres in Puna. 

That said, my aunt has a 10 acres ranch property in VA, near the WV line.  I went to visit her in August and we took a stroll around the property.  Not sure if we got to see the whole boundary of the property, but we were done in about 15 minute by walking.  10 acres in my mind was HUGE, but it didn't seem that big when I visited.  That may have due to scale of the properties where she lived where apparently 10 acres is a "starter" lot.   

I envisioned that if I had 10 acres, I would definitely need an ATV.  I mean she has 4 horses, but I don't think she really rides any of them around the property.  She does have a hunting stand on her property, which she doesn't use, and I actually saw a couple of deer within her fencelines.  Her property has a natural spring and pond, so it is quite attractive for the deer. 

Me sense of land area is seriously off.  3 acres sounds like TONS of land!  Especially from my 1100 sq ft place that if I sold I could apparently get many acres in Puna. 

That said, my aunt has a 10 acres ranch property in VA, near the WV line.  I went to visit her in August and we took a stroll around the property.  Not sure if we got to see the whole boundary of the property, but we were done in about 15 minute by walking.  10 acres in my mind was HUGE, but it didn't seem that big when I visited.  That may have due to scale of the properties where she lived where apparently 10 acres is a "starter" lot.   

I envisioned that if I had 10 acres, I would definitely need an ATV.  I mean she has 4 horses, but I don't think she really rides any of them around the property.  She does have a hunting stand on her property, which she doesn't use, and I actually saw a couple of deer within her fencelines.  Her property has a natural spring and pond, so it is quite attractive for the deer.

3 acres does sound like a lot. Shoot any born and raised hawaii resident would think 1 acre is decent but 3 and 10! Talk about all the things running through your head the things you can do! And that's for starters.... hahaha yea I seriously contemplated on moving up state for open firearms and big yards. But if I can get a decent amount of property for a good price on another island I'd settle with that.  You guys must've been power walking to cover 10 acres that quick. I'd picture a atv also with that much property. 

I use an ATV to go in the back of my lot, which is 266x490 ft.  Most of the lots here are 125x1070 ft.  There is a guy who has 5 of those all in a row for sale on a block in my subdivision, and there are no houses on that road.  The blocks here are 4/10s of a mile.

I use an ATV to go in the back of my lot, which is 266x490 ft.  Most of the lots here are 125x1070 ft.  There is a guy who has 5 of those all in a row for sale on a block in my subdivision, and there are no houses on that road.  The blocks here are 4/10s of a mile.

Damnnnnnn. You got some area. So that's just over 3 acres for sale. Is that AG land?  No wonder when my friends are on big island they always end up at someone's place mag dumping. Haha.

If my land was large enough I would buy 2 full sized shipping containers, join them together, get a strong vent system added with drywall/ceiling tiles and use that for pistol/shotgun.   If there was a WROL situation, I would just practice in the back which is conservation land  to a mountain.

If my land was large enough I would buy 2 full sized shipping containers, join them together, get a strong vent system added with drywall/ceiling tiles and use that for pistol/shotgun.   If there was a WROL situation, I would just practice in the back which is conservation land  to a mountain.

2 full size shipping containers would be pretty damn nice. Would be good for the sound also. WROL situation free range everywhere. Be kinda scary tho

Me sense of land area is seriously off.  3 acres sounds like TONS of land!  Especially from my 1100 sq ft place that if I sold I could apparently get many acres in Puna. 

That said, my aunt has a 10 acres ranch property in VA, near the WV line.  I went to visit her in August and we took a stroll around the property.  Not sure if we got to see the whole boundary of the property, but we were done in about 15 minute by walking.  10 acres in my mind was HUGE, but it didn't seem that big when I visited.  That may have due to scale of the properties where she lived where apparently 10 acres is a "starter" lot.   

I envisioned that if I had 10 acres, I would definitely need an ATV.  I mean she has 4 horses, but I don't think she really rides any of them around the property.  She does have a hunting stand on her property, which she doesn't use, and I actually saw a couple of deer within her fencelines.  Her property has a natural spring and pond, so it is quite attractive for the deer.

Yep, Hawaii people are so land poor that 3 acres seems like quite a bit.  Mainland, different story.  Anyway, you can still get some good sized lots in upper Puna area for a reasonable price.  However if you plan to shoot on your property it still needs to be ideally located and with neighbors far away or "like minded" neighbors that are cool with it.  Some area's even on large acreage you might get people calling 911.  If your property is tough to access you will probably never get a visit even with a complaint unless if it becomes a severely chronic issue. 

Just for a reference 10 acres is only about .61 of a mile around the entire perimeter.  25 acres is about .83 of a mile and 50 acres is only about 1.1 mi.  End to end it isn't that far unless if it is real narrow and long.  Terrain can be more of the issue.  If you are in upper Puna and make a land purchase, be aware that if it isn't cleared, or easily accessible it will cost you a good bit to get that done.  If you were serious about land on the Big Island or upper Puna in particular lmk.  There are ideal places to look for if shooting is your thing.  But also remember that the Puna district is not the safest place and the more remote you are, may not be a good thing for some people.

When I was shopping for a home, I specifically looked at places where I could set up a range.  I looked at larger lots, even one 21 acres, but the larger lots actually had closer neighbors than my 3 acre lot.  What really sealed the deal was my wife liked the house and the neighbor's wife diirectly across the road, (no one within 500 yards either side of him) came up to meet us.  First time meeting us and she says, "We look out for each other around here, and most of us have guns."  My kind of people and we have become good friends.

If my land was large enough I would buy 2 full sized shipping containers, join them together, get a strong vent system added with drywall/ceiling tiles and use that for pistol/shotgun.   If there was a WROL situation, I would just practice in the back which is conservation land  to a mountain.

The manufactured container ranges that we worked with were rated for up to .308, but the walls and ceiling here pretty thick rubber based panels. Not as thick as I thought though.


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Yep, Hawaii people are so land poor that 3 acres seems like quite a bit.  Mainland, different story.  Anyway, you can still get some good sized lots in upper Puna area for a reasonable price.  However if you plan to shoot on your property it still needs to be ideally located and with neighbors far away or "like minded" neighbors that are cool with it.  Some area's even on large acreage you might get people calling 911.  If your property is tough to access you will probably never get a visit even with a complaint unless if it becomes a severely chronic issue. 

Just for a reference 10 acres is only about .61 of a mile around the entire perimeter.  25 acres is about .83 of a mile and 50 acres is only about 1.1 mi.  End to end it isn't that far unless if it is real narrow and long.  Terrain can be more of the issue.  If you are in upper Puna and make a land purchase, be aware that if it isn't cleared, or easily accessible it will cost you a good bit to get that done.  If you were serious about land on the Big Island or upper Puna in particular lmk.  There are ideal places to look for if shooting is your thing.  But also remember that the Puna district is not the safest place and the more remote you are, may not be a good thing for some people.

I would LOVE a ranch type property on the BI. I love the many things that the BI offers, but I don't see myself doing that for many, many years. Maybe not until retirement.

Is the property adjacent to yours available? If I did get a property like 3+ acres, a range area would be a must! That said, I've thought about areas like eastern WA and Idaho to get some recreation type land. But alas, prob not more than a dream... 

For my aunts property, there were several paddock areas that we didn't walk around. That and some parts may have been hidden beyond certain area, but do recall thinking that that wasn't a vast as I had envisioned. Still a LOT of land though! She doesn't do much farming either. Mostly just lots of area for her horses to roam and her various pets. She doesn't hunt now, but she had expressed interest in shooting a lever 30-30 that she has. I believe is an older Winchester. She had wanted to give it to me when I was like 12, but my mom said no... damn. Haha.


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I would LOVE a ranch type property on the BI. I love the many things that the BI offers, but I don't see myself doing that for many, many years. Maybe not until retirement.

Is the property adjacent to yours available? If I did get a property like 3+ acres, a range area would be a must! That said, I've thought about areas like eastern WA and Idaho to get some recreation type land. But alas, prob not more than a dream... 

Yes, it is mostly about backstop and neighbors when looking for property.  The smaller the lot the more chances of having neighbors close by, or potentially someone building close in the future.  There are still great places, but something to consider.  Buying vacant land can be a bit different when it comes to purchase.

As for my area, the properties are all larger sized parcels, in the 50 to 100 acre range.