KILL HOUSE<

I do not know if you ever heard of Power Edge on Waialae Ave.  It is actually an Airsoft Shop.  Well Poweredge does rent out its course to the public.  There is a fee,  the guns are replica, but a "killhouse" non the less.   Airsoft is used by many LEO'S and Millitary as a form of training. 

If intrested in a 2A Hawaii Airsoft event contact Peter at Power Edge.

Poweredge. That's where I got my eotech about 4 or 5 years ago. Haven't been there since, but I have a friend that asks me every other week or so to go out there with him for a night of airsoft games. I just happen to be so damn busy and work those days. 

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Funtimes/2A/chris/etc/etc:

Keep Hawaii Hawaii means really that.  Keep it Hawaii.  For your info, Sir i have many "mainland friends" who respect the islands and treat it as thier own.  I have Mainland Friends who are more local than some of the locals. 

It was u and your cronies who assumed i was talking about "Da Hauole's" 

I never come on this website to bash da mainlanders. i came on it to Defend Hawaii from CCW.

Here is an idea for CCW Permits.

Let the public vote on it. 

Eh really you have a good week.

You're killing me. Really. Please comment on Open vs. Concealed carry issue.

Secondly, provide FACTS as to what EXACTLY you are defending Hawaii from if some version of carry (open or concealed) were brought here.

- Alex

Once his CCW myths he's basing all his fears on (as he groups it in the category of "evil"; as senseless as "Evil Black Rifles" of Cali) are debunked, I predict his responses will at least be clearer. One can hope.

I never delete ANYTHING!!!!   I got nothing to HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't say "delete" I said edited.  The posts are still there but the content is vastly different.  Anyhow, you seem to be willing to debate this in a rational and mature fashion now so we'll let bygones be bygones.   

Let the public vote on it. 

You and I both know how easily political-fearmongering would make the public vote against it.  Democracy only works when those voting understand the issue, otherwise it's just mob mentality:   

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 09:13:14 AM

I never delete ANYTHING!!!!   I got nothing to HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't say "delete" I said edited.  The posts are still there but the content is vastly different.  Anyhow, you seem to be willing to debate this in a rational and mature fashion now so we'll let bygones be bygones.   

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 08:42:21 AM

Let the public vote on it. 

You and I both know how easily political-fearmongering would make the public vote against it.  Democracy only works when those voting understand the issue, otherwise it's just mob mentality:   

I did not edit or delete ANYTHING!!  You can thank the mods on this site for changing my posts/threads. 

Not surprised dh is an airsoft guy.

Quote from: Antithesis on December 28, 2010, 09:01:07 AM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 08:42:21 AM

It was u and your cronies who assumed i was talking about "Da Hauole's" 

Clearly someone went back and edited their original posts-- we all saw what you wrote earlier.  I guess you got tired of us quoting your many contradictions?

I never delete ANYTHING!!!!   I got nothing to HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't quote directly from the thread since it's locked, but on Page 2 of the "Ask for Police Escort" thread, you said this:

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=977.msg6300#msg6300

The right to bear arms is your PRIVLEDGE not your damn rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Oh i wanted the Super Ferry it was all the Haole's on Kauai that hated it.  Funny those same Haole's that said the Ferry was destructive to the Islands are the same ones pushing for CCW

- Alex

Double post. 

What i don't get is how this thread gets so many views, replies & attention.  Is the concept of trolling too new for this forum?

As long as everyone is having fun, i guess it's ok.

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 09:13:14 AM

Quote from: Antithesis on December 28, 2010, 09:01:07 AM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 08:42:21 AM

It was u and your cronies who assumed i was talking about "Da Hauole's" 

Clearly someone went back and edited their original posts-- we all saw what you wrote earlier.  I guess you got tired of us quoting your many contradictions?

I never delete ANYTHING!!!!   I got nothing to HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't quote directly from the thread since it's locked, but on Page 2 of the "Ask for Police Escort" thread, you said this:

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=977.msg6300#msg6300

Quote from: Defend Hawaii link=topic=977.msg6300#msg6300

The right to bear arms is your PRIVLEDGE not your damn rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Oh i wanted the Super Ferry it was all the Haole's on Kauai that hated it.  Funny those same Haole's that said the Ferry was destructive to the Islands are the same ones pushing for CCW

- Alex

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 Re: Ask for Police Escort
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 09:38:47 AM »Quote from: Dregs on December 22, 2010, 08:36:44 AMQuote from: Defend Hawaii on December 22, 2010, 08:11:16 AMTHIS IS HAWAII NOT THE MAINLAND... KEEP HAWAII HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Observe, folks. This is exactly what I've been talking about that drags us 10 years behind. The mentality, the mold, that needs to be broken if we're ever to stop being last. The training we've received to not only shed our own rights, but to repel our own rights. All emotion. This saddens me.   
 
PS: Hawaii is a state that is part of the U.S.



Yep, this is the "locals vs. haoles" attitude. 



Eh Alex your friend 808shooter brought it up!!!!!

And quite your moaning haole is slang for white>>> In Hawaii everyone tease everyone.  Its from the old sugar cane plantation days.....

Sigh.

So, you're not going to actually have a meaningful discussion based on the facts that have been presented? If you don't have any legitimate points based on anything other than emotion or feeling, then this thread should be 

If you do wish to actually discuss the issues instead of getting sidetracked every other post, then let's get 

- Alex

Quote from: Alex Europa on December 28, 2010, 01:41:11 PM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 09:13:14 AM

Quote from: Antithesis on December 28, 2010, 09:01:07 AM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 08:42:21 AM

It was u and your cronies who assumed i was talking about "Da Hauole's" 

Clearly someone went back and edited their original posts-- we all saw what you wrote earlier.  I guess you got tired of us quoting your many contradictions?

I never delete ANYTHING!!!!   I got nothing to HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't quote directly from the thread since it's locked, but on Page 2 of the "Ask for Police Escort" thread, you said this:

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=977.msg6300#msg6300

Quote from: Defend Hawaii link=topic=977.msg6300#msg6300

The right to bear arms is your PRIVLEDGE not your damn rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Oh i wanted the Super Ferry it was all the Haole's on Kauai that hated it.  Funny those same Haole's that said the Ferry was destructive to the Islands are the same ones pushing for CCW

- Alex

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 Re: Ask for Police Escort
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 09:38:47 AM »Quote from: Dregs on December 22, 2010, 08:36:44 AMQuote from: Defend Hawaii on December 22, 2010, 08:11:16 AMTHIS IS HAWAII NOT THE MAINLAND... KEEP HAWAII HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Observe, folks. This is exactly what I've been talking about that drags us 10 years behind. The mentality, the mold, that needs to be broken if we're ever to stop being last. The training we've received to not only shed our own rights, but to repel our own rights. All emotion. This saddens me.   
 
PS: Hawaii is a state that is part of the U.S.



Yep, this is the "locals vs. haoles" attitude. 



Eh Alex your friend 808shooter brought it up!!!!!

And quite your moaning haole is slang for white>>> In Hawaii everyone tease everyone.  Its from the old sugar cane plantation days.....

  Seriously? Now CCW is in Hawaii is a bad idea, but teasing and racism are okay?  We all know you are a troll, but Is there anything you won't say to get a reaction?



Waiting on the next stupid comment. 

Let's get back on topic here.
Enough with the racial stuff of this thread will be locked.

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 09:04:17 PM

Quote from: Alex Europa on December 28, 2010, 01:41:11 PM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 09:13:14 AM

Quote from: Antithesis on December 28, 2010, 09:01:07 AM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 08:42:21 AM

It was u and your cronies who assumed i was talking about "Da Hauole's" 

Clearly someone went back and edited their original posts-- we all saw what you wrote earlier.  I guess you got tired of us quoting your many contradictions?

I never delete ANYTHING!!!!   I got nothing to HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't quote directly from the thread since it's locked, but on Page 2 of the "Ask for Police Escort" thread, you said this:

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=977.msg6300#msg6300

Quote from: Defend Hawaii link=topic=977.msg6300#msg6300

The right to bear arms is your PRIVLEDGE not your damn rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Oh i wanted the Super Ferry it was all the Haole's on Kauai that hated it.  Funny those same Haole's that said the Ferry was destructive to the Islands are the same ones pushing for CCW

- Alex

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 Re: Ask for Police Escort
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 09:38:47 AM »Quote from: Dregs on December 22, 2010, 08:36:44 AMQuote from: Defend Hawaii on December 22, 2010, 08:11:16 AMTHIS IS HAWAII NOT THE MAINLAND... KEEP HAWAII HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Observe, folks. This is exactly what I've been talking about that drags us 10 years behind. The mentality, the mold, that needs to be broken if we're ever to stop being last. The training we've received to not only shed our own rights, but to repel our own rights. All emotion. This saddens me.   
 
PS: Hawaii is a state that is part of the U.S.



Yep, this is the "locals vs. haoles" attitude. 



Eh Alex your friend 808shooter brought it up!!!!!

And quite your moaning haole is slang for white>>> In Hawaii everyone tease everyone.  Its from the old sugar cane plantation days.....

  Seriously? Now CCW is in Hawaii is a bad idea , but teasing and racism are okay?  We all know you are a troll, but Is there anything you won't say to get a reaction?



Waiting on the next stupid comment. 

LOL u just do not understand the local ways!! 

 

Disclaimer for the emotionally clouded:
The article is not about bashing police and calling them names. It's about the fatal consequences of making policies based on expecting police to be everywhere at once at an instant. Also, it is not their lawfully binding and fully liable duty to protect you. (If it is, can every victim sue the department and win? Is that what it's going to take?)

http://jpfo.org/alerts/alert19991104.htm

This article was written in 1999 and we can tell that NOTHING has changed since then. We're still just as vulnerable to the same attack. Laid out plain and simple by JPFO (Albeit trying to sell their book).

*EDIT*
I like this article because it doesn't have as many dramatic emotional flares, fancy dramatic emotional language, and it says it how it is. I'm an advocate of rational logical thinking 

Quote from: vooduchikn on December 28, 2010, 09:43:43 PM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 09:04:17 PM

Quote from: Alex Europa on December 28, 2010, 01:41:11 PM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 09:13:14 AM

Quote from: Antithesis on December 28, 2010, 09:01:07 AM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 08:42:21 AM

It was u and your cronies who assumed i was talking about "Da Hauole's" 

Clearly someone went back and edited their original posts-- we all saw what you wrote earlier.  I guess you got tired of us quoting your many contradictions?

I never delete ANYTHING!!!!   I got nothing to HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't quote directly from the thread since it's locked, but on Page 2 of the "Ask for Police Escort" thread, you said this:

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=977.msg6300#msg6300

Quote from: Defend Hawaii link=topic=977.msg6300#msg6300

The right to bear arms is your PRIVLEDGE not your damn rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Oh i wanted the Super Ferry it was all the Haole's on Kauai that hated it.  Funny those same Haole's that said the Ferry was destructive to the Islands are the same ones pushing for CCW

- Alex

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 Re: Ask for Police Escort
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 09:38:47 AM »Quote from: Dregs on December 22, 2010, 08:36:44 AMQuote from: Defend Hawaii on December 22, 2010, 08:11:16 AMTHIS IS HAWAII NOT THE MAINLAND... KEEP HAWAII HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Observe, folks. This is exactly what I've been talking about that drags us 10 years behind. The mentality, the mold, that needs to be broken if we're ever to stop being last. The training we've received to not only shed our own rights, but to repel our own rights. All emotion. This saddens me.   
 
PS: Hawaii is a state that is part of the U.S.



Yep, this is the "locals vs. haoles" attitude. 



Eh Alex your friend 808shooter brought it up!!!!!

And quite your moaning haole is slang for white>>> In Hawaii everyone tease everyone.  Its from the old sugar cane plantation days.....

  Seriously? Now CCW is in Hawaii is a bad idea , but teasing and racism are okay?  We all know you are a troll, but Is there anything you won't say to get a reaction?



Waiting on the next stupid comment. 

LOL u just do not understand the local ways!!

If they are the same "local" ways that resulted in your one-track mind...I don't want to understand.  Have nice day.

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 29, 2010, 12:26:31 PM

Quote from: vooduchikn on December 28, 2010, 09:43:43 PM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 09:04:17 PM

Quote from: Alex Europa on December 28, 2010, 01:41:11 PM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 09:13:14 AM

Quote from: Antithesis on December 28, 2010, 09:01:07 AM

Quote from: Defend Hawaii on December 28, 2010, 08:42:21 AM

It was u and your cronies who assumed i was talking about "Da Hauole's" 

Clearly someone went back and edited their original posts-- we all saw what you wrote earlier.  I guess you got tired of us quoting your many contradictions?

I never delete ANYTHING!!!!   I got nothing to HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't quote directly from the thread since it's locked, but on Page 2 of the "Ask for Police Escort" thread, you said this:

http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=977.msg6300#msg6300

Quote from: Defend Hawaii link=topic=977.msg6300#msg6300

The right to bear arms is your PRIVLEDGE not your damn rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Oh i wanted the Super Ferry it was all the Haole's on Kauai that hated it.  Funny those same Haole's that said the Ferry was destructive to the Islands are the same ones pushing for CCW

- Alex

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 Re: Ask for Police Escort
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 09:38:47 AM »Quote from: Dregs on December 22, 2010, 08:36:44 AMQuote from: Defend Hawaii on December 22, 2010, 08:11:16 AMTHIS IS HAWAII NOT THE MAINLAND... KEEP HAWAII HAWAII!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Observe, folks. This is exactly what I've been talking about that drags us 10 years behind. The mentality, the mold, that needs to be broken if we're ever to stop being last. The training we've received to not only shed our own rights, but to repel our own rights. All emotion. This saddens me.   
 
PS: Hawaii is a state that is part of the U.S.



Yep, this is the "locals vs. haoles" attitude. 



Eh Alex your friend 808shooter brought it up!!!!!

And quite your moaning haole is slang for white>>> In Hawaii everyone tease everyone.  Its from the old sugar cane plantation days.....

  Seriously? Now CCW is in Hawaii is a bad idea , but teasing and racism are okay?  We all know you are a troll, but Is there anything you won't say to get a reaction?



Waiting on the next stupid comment. 

LOL u just do not understand the local ways!!

If they are the same "local" ways that resulted in your one-track mind...I don't want to understand.  Have nice day.

If this ever comes to Hawaii, then really i do not want to understand...  Our brave men and women in the force put up with enough.  RIP to those that passed away.

*snip*
May 2007 through the end of 2009, concealed carry permit holders in the U.S. have killed at least 117 individuals, including 9 law enforcement officers (excluding cases where individuals were acquitted, but including pending cases). There were about 25,000 murders by firearm that period,[77][78] meaning that concealed carry permit holders committed less than 1% of the murders by firearm.

Try again. Do not pass Go.

*going sleep already.

And what about the estimated 200,000 women each year who use guns to DEFEND themselves from sexual assault? What do you tell them when you take their guns away? Call the cops and hope they catch the guy after the fact?

Are all CCW permit holders perfect? Absolutely not. Do guns save more lives than they illegally take? Yes.

I really despise the Brady Campaign (VPC); they single out a small handful of truly tragic events to make their point and COMPLETELY IGNORE AND DISREGARD all of the lives the guns save EVERY DAY around the country. Do I sound like a broken record yet? The only arguments that anti-2a people make are misrepresentations of the truth.

- Alex

Defend Hawaii,

What is this wortthless piece of youtube crap you have posted now? Do you find yourself scrambling to find anti CCW stuff now? Save time and just ask, I could have pointed you at that sight a long time ago. 

I am starting to get the feel that you think (keyword) that you are going to be a police officer someday and that you are just plain scared of CCW and of actually having to abide by laws that afford people other
than LEO the right to self protection. The thought of it gives you panic attacks at night.

Time for a reality check:

It's not if it comes to Hawaii...it is when. Get a grip dude..or a hobby!